Posted on 06/19/2007 8:57:54 AM PDT by em2vn
YouTube bites again. A law firm's attempt to get positive exposure for an immigration law conference by posting it on You Tube backfired when an organization that's been tough on H-1B visas and offshore outsourcing copied it and made a controversial video of its own.
In the original video, posted by the firm Cohen & Grigsby from a May 15 conference, an attorney is shown advising attendees on how to meet the minimum requirements of advertising a job to U.S. candidates so that a foreign worker can more easily be hired. The firm's conference dealt with the U.S. government's labor certification requirement for foreign workers, the first step in helping them obtain green cards. The law requires that an employer prove there are no qualified U.S. citizens for a permanent job being offered before hiring a non-citizen.
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If some around here get their way the white house will continue to advocate the same sort of thing.
Fereners good - ‘Mericans bad.
H1-B VISA’s are not the threat they used to be. At first they were but we quickly drained the market of the most qualified applicants and teachers, so the next wave are less qualified and so on...
Trust me- I know.. I have lost jobs and money due to H1-B workers. I am a computer software engineeer.
I beg to differ. I’ve seen lots of unqualified workers replacing skilled workers for the simple fact that they were cheaper and made the numbers look better.
Government has been endorcing the H1B scam for at least a decade... all this video showed was what I have seen first hand for at least a decade, and when I point it out especially here, I am called an idiot or anti-capitalistic or a DU lurker or some other name.
This is the facts the H1B program is an ABJECT SCAM, always has been, always will be. It is abused WHOLESALE. There are maybe... MAYBE 10,000-20,000 jobs where you can’t find an american capable of doing the work in this nation a year, tops.. and most of those are due to the fact that they are jobs that involve the repair and maintenance of obsolete systems that have long been abandoned by the US job force, but are still in use in lesser nations, by companies that have avoided upgrading past market viability (at least in terms of finding people to work and maintain them) of their systems.
The only way to stop abuse of the H1B program is simple, to get an H1B visa employee the employer must pay the government $100k per H1B employee... this will ensure only jobs that TRULY cannot be done by an american get an H1B visa employee because the financial motivation to abuse the system is removed. Only when a company truly has no other choice will an H1B be hired.
You hear any politician or corporate leader or H1B advocate tell you anything else, they are lying to your face, just like they have been regarding abuse for the last decade.
This is the only reform that will work, other than completely ending the program entirely.
> I imagine the White House endorsed this type of business assistance.
A nation of serfs is easier to control than a nation of free men.
H1B is to skilled workers what Illegal Aliens are to unskilled... intentional wage suppressors, endorced and subsidized by your tax dollars. Pure and simple.
They are permitted to advertise jobs requiring experience at campus recruitment centers. They are permitted to advertise locally in ethnic newspapers. When the jobs finally are advertised by the “Backlog Elimination” centers, they are not required to list the company name.
There is a second video where the lawyers discuss disqualifying American applicants. They say if the applicant is not interested you can disqualify him. I don’t know what that means; he was interested enough to apply. Maybe it means the employer gets to decide that someone who had been earning 100K is not really interested in a job paying 80K.
It also talks about interviewing the people you’d be legally liable for not interviewing in the “unlikely event” you are audited, and ways of disqualifying them. Which seems to mean making a grid based on your foreign candidates resume, and not being able to check every box for an American. What a heartless rip-off, calling someone you have no intention of hiring in for an interview, just so you can dot the i’s and cross the t’s in this fraudulent set of laws, which do not protect Americans, but do feed lawyers and human resource consultants.
Mrs VS
And while I have sympathy and even admiration for the mostly Indian programmers who have come here, from a personal point of view, in effect they are scabs who have destroyed the industry as a place where Americans can work at a good wage. Also, they bring their culture with them including caste system hierarchy and prejudice, and are not shy about excluding the few Americans who get left in an majority Indian group. At the “top of the pyramid” they seem to tend to strong support for the far left - as demonstrated recent InfoUSA scandal and other doners found in the campaign finance database.
We don’t need more. It’s now just a scam for cheap and indentured labor.
Lawyers - don’t you just love ‘em.
It is important to understand that all of the government regulations designed to keep Group X from taking hte jobs of group Y are bogus. Companies will always find a way to ge around them. I once had a job in Zurich, and the company had to do the same thing to hire me i.e. prove that I was not taking the job of someone who was swiss. It’s just a matter of defining the job such that I was the only person qualified (which was silly).
Sorry, I’d make it a lot more than 100K per H1-B employee. That isn’t that much for a ticket to the US - Mexicans will pay 5 or 10 K and Chinese will pay 30K to coyotes to come in as restaurant workers.
A programmer or scientist or international trader would pay more than 30K; many a business owner would pay 100K to bring in a nephew.
And many companies would do it for profit - “pay us 150K, we write a job opening just for you, and keep the 50K for our trouble.”
Mrs VS
Not a surprise. Thousands of talented American programmers with European names have been denied jobs.
Not only is the government actively engaged in the elimination of Americans of European background, but major businesses are too.
What is your field and where do you live?
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