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To: Proudly Republican; NRA1995; E Rocc
1. WTF are people so obsessed with this "press 1 for English, press 2 for Spanish" BS? I HATE automation and usually press "0" for the operator anyway. Why do so many Freepers obsesess about it?

2. My great grandmothers never learned English. There was no American mass media (other than radio, which was largely local), and they lived in SEGREGATED ethnic enclaves. Do you folks actually think that the Anglos went into Polish or Italian neighborhoods? Were there even ANY Anglos in Newark (unless you count the Irish?). The WASPS fled like hell from the northeast thanks to my ancestors.

You need to learn English to get ahead in life, and GOVERNMENT SPONSORED bilingualism (aka documents in Chinese, Spanish, Russian, etc, as in New York) is WRONG. Nevertheless, if a private business decides to promote themselves in Spanish, English, or Esperanto (including such choices in their automated phone messages), that's their prerogative.

15 posted on 06/19/2007 12:02:14 PM PDT by Clemenza (Rudy Giuliani, like Pesto and Seattle, belongs in the scrap heap of '90s Culture)
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To: Clemenza
I think people are "obsessed" to some degree because of the perception that a rather large illegal community is being catered to when they really should be deported. Personally, I as a taxpayer resent having to pay so that my government can produce translations of communications to "reach out" to the criminals.

Comparing the current crop of illegals to the immigrants that came before them in prior generations is disingenuous - they came here, assimilated, were definitely NOT catered to, and didn't exhaust our nation's resources by demanding public services to which they have no right.

17 posted on 06/19/2007 12:27:56 PM PDT by Heartland Mom (Build the fence, secure our borders, deport illegals - Protect our sovereignty!)
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To: Clemenza
GOVERNMENT SPONSORED bilingualism (aka documents in Chinese, Spanish, Russian, etc, as in New York) is WRONG.

Exactly. That's the problem. I worked in a polling place in San Francisco where we had the ballots in Chinese as well as English. A bunch of Dem "activists" brought busloads of Chinese grannies to vote. They didn't speak English, of course, but they also didn't read the Chinese the ballot was printed in (in fact, they were probably illiterate in any language), but the Dems got to send "helpers" into the booths to help them vote with the Chinese ballots. Since they "helped" them in Chinese, none of the polling place workers knew what they were saying anyway, and the Dems were essentially just pointing to the dot to punch and guiding the elderly Chinese hands to the appropriate Dem candidate.

19 posted on 06/19/2007 12:40:58 PM PDT by livius
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To: Clemenza
1. WTF are people so obsessed with this "press 1 for English, press 2 for Spanish" BS? I HATE automation and usually press "0" for the operator anyway. Why do so many Freepers obsesess about it?

Because it is a clear indication that a large and fastest growing segment of the resident population (Hispanics) really is not fluent in English. After all, why do you think that you don't hear same offer for people who speak French, German, Italian, Polish, Romanian, Swedish, Norwegian, Dutch, Russian, Greek, Japanese, Hungarian, Hindi, etc. Apparently those sorts of people don't exist.

These government agencies and corporations know exactly what they are doing. Setting up groups of services in more than one language is a very expensive and time consuming endeavor. You don't do something like that unless it is truly necessary to reach a very large percentage of people. And again, that group is the fastest growing segment of our society.

If we don't reform our immigration laws the southwest will evolve into our own Quebec.

20 posted on 06/19/2007 1:41:49 PM PDT by Cyropaedia ("Virtue cannot separate itself from reality without becoming a principal of evil...".)
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