Immigration bill defeat: Don't Celebrate yet, they'll be back

There are certain causes that exist where the Powers That Be (PTB) won't take no for an answer. Immigration amnesty (multiple times) is one of them, despite overwhelming public opposition. The globalist fervor to flood this country with illegal immigrants is not just driven by government collusion with big business, hungry for cheap labor. There is another evil agenda at work: a plan to create future cultural conflict that will "demand" an Hegelian solution: A North American integration--a major stepping stone to the New World Order. By the time that crisis fully matures and forces a decision upon us, we will be outvoted by the Hispanics and their sympathizers.

Patrick Buchanan also sees it this way: "They have a vision of a world where not only capital and goods but people move freely across borders. Indeed, borders disappear. It is a vision of a 'deep integration' of the United States, Canada and Mexico in a North American Union, modeled on the European Union and tied together by superhighways and railroads, where crossing from Mexico into the United States would be as easy as crossing from Virginia into Maryland. It is about the merger of nations into larger transnational entitles and, ultimately, global governance.

This immigration bill is but a piece of a great global project already far advanced. In 1993, a majority of Americans opposed the NAFTA trade deal [Shoved down our throats by phony conservative Newt Gingrich as his first act after winning election under his "Contract With America"] with Mexico because they did not believe the propaganda and feared that, as Henry Kissinger said, it represented the architecture of a new world order. More than a dozen years have elapsed. And the results? Contrary to the promises, our trade surplus with Mexico did not grow. It vanished. In 13 years, we have run $500 billion in trade deficits with Mexico. Last year's $60 billion was the largest ever. Mexico now exports more cars, trucks and auto parts to the United States than we export to the world."

Buchanan then gives us a quick review of what happened to the bill. "Last week, in one of the great uprisings of modern politics, Middle America rose up and body-slammed the national establishment. The Bush-Kennedy-McCain amnesty for 12 million to 20 million illegal aliens, and for the businesses that have hired them -- a bill backed by La Raza and the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, the Wall Street Journal and the Washington Post -- went down to crushing defeat [But it sadly won't last].

Majority Leader Harry Reid fell 15 votes short (45 to 50) of shutting off debate. Like the rout of the Dubai ports deal, the victory was achieved by a firestorm of public protest, reflected in millions of phone calls and e-mails, and citizens marching to town meetings... But opponents of this bill, which would reward mass criminality with mass amnesty and eventual U.S. citizenship, ought not rest.

For President Bush is coming back to resuscitate the monster, and this bill has more support in the Senate than the 45 votes it got Thursday. Some Republicans and Democrats who voted not to shut off debate are privately committed to amnesty, if they can be given political cover and face-saving amendments to take home."

The plan is to keep promising that this new immigration "reform" will finally solve the problem, just like the last one in 1986 under Reagan was supposed to do, and didn't. They told us then too that "from now on the law will be strictly enforced." That was a lie and it's still a lie. The current Bush administration, despite the enforcement rhetoric, continues to make sure a border fence is never implemented. Partial fencing won't do it and they know it. The Bush justice department continues to harass and deter Border Patrol agents from effectively doing their job. Agents who vigorously pursue illegals have been prosecuted and put in jail on false testimony and legal technicalities in order to signal the others to back off. Morale in the Border Patrol is rock bottom and there is no shortage of hostile feelings for the president.

The government clearly does not want the public to think it is possible, let alone practical, to deport illegals.Deportation IS, in fact, the cheapest and fastest solution to this mess. We don't need more jail space, since we can simply use the growing number of "holding facilities" the government has built (supposedly for this purpose). We don't need complex trials either. Only a quick administrative procedure is necessary to determine if those rounded up have a valid green card. If not, send them back.

The government is intending to build more of these holding camps, even though they clearly have no intention of using them for the illegal immigration crisis. Jerome Corse wrote that, "Houston-based KBR was awarded an initial $385 million contract [to build camps] in January 2006 for one year, with four one-year options... KBR held a previous emergency detention contract with ICE from 2000 to 2005. ICE spokeswoman Jamie Zuieback told Corsi the primary intent of the contract was to build temporary detention facilities that could be used in the event of a mass migration crisis, but she confirmed the facilities could be employed in national emergencies, including natural disasters." If we don't have a "mass migration" crisis yet, then what qualifies?

These camps, such as the one just north of Nellis AFB in Las Vegas (highly visible from I-15), will never be used for immigration--that was merely the excuse to get Congress to justify the construction--the feds have no intention of deporting large numbers of illegals. In reality, the camps are created for future mass incarceration of American dissidents if and when we stop tolerating government deception surrounding the New World Order they are hell bent on creating.

If we compare deportation and closing the border with this new and complex "solution" to immigration reform, we find the latter is infinitely more complex and expensive to implement. Hundreds of new immigration offices will have to be built and thousands of new employees hired to process the millions of illegals as temporary workers--which only exacerbates the enforcement problem. This complex status being proposed creates an enforcement nightmare as ICE [Immigration and Customs Enforcement] would have to check up on the detailed and changing status of millions who have to meet various time and penalty requirements associated with their "provisional" standing. If this bill passes, it will take an army of tax paid attorneys (already provided for in the bill) to sort out whether or not there has been a violation of each person's status. Now, we are talking about lengthy trials and judicial procedures--probably involving a whole new court system--not even counting the costs.

Just as the last amnesty failed to curtail illegal immigration, this new proposal only accelerates cross border infiltration as thousands of new illegals try to get in "under the wire (literally)" to join in the amnesty.

Jed Babbin writing for Human Events describes who are the bad guys in this battle: ""The usual suspects are the goats, but there are stand-outs among them, from President Bush and Sen. McCain to Sen. John Kyle [R-AZ] and McCain's acolyte, Lindsay Graham... Graham is justifiably scared of the backlash that may come from South Carolina conservatives when he seeks reelection next year.

"White House Press Secretary Tony Snow defended the bill, emphasizing that the President would give it another push. But he also told CBS's Bob Schieffer that the White House realized that people have concerns about border security and that, 'we've heard you.' [Sure!] Though we will always think of Tony as a friend [wishful thinking], the only answer to that is, 'prove it.' Build Duncan Hunter's fence.

"In the June 5 Republican candidates' debate, Hunter criticized both the Senate bill and the Bush administration for not building the already-legislated fence along the Mexican border. He labeled the Senate bill 'disastrous' and said that border enforcement is a national security issue. And he talked about the fence he championed to CNN's Wolf Blitzer: 'the Hunter bill, which was signed by the president on the 26th of October, mandating 854 miles of double fence --not that scraggly little fence you show on CNN all the time, Wolf, that people get across so easily --if they get across my fence, we sign them up for the Olympics immediately.... 854 miles of double border fence was mandated to be constructed [which isn't enough-the whole border needs to be fenced]. Homeland Security has a billion bucks, cash on hand. It's been six months, and they've done 11 miles.'

Following up on Tony Snow's statement that "We've heard you" on enforcement, President bush lost no time in telling the Association of Building Contractors he's got new plans for enforcement. According to the AP, "President Bush, trying to salvage an immigration overhaul legislation, endorsed a plan Thursday that would lock in money [an additional $4.4B] for border security as a way to win over conservative lawmakers and a skeptical public. 'We're going to show the American people that the promises in this bill will be kept.' [more audacious lying] Bush got behind a proposal [put forth by government shills, Senators Jon Kyl and Lindsey Graham] to set aside money collected through fees and penalties for tougher border security and workplace enforcement."

Let me point out why this is a total fraud: First, the new enforcement money will only be forthcoming after the bill passes, ensuring that Bush gets amnesty before having to produce enforcement funds. Second, the funds for enforcement will only come through fees and penalties, IF and WHEN the government decides to start vigorously enforcing (which it will not do!).

The bill also now includes a provision to mandate biometric identifiers on Social Security cards, presumably to stop the creation of fraudulent cards. But this is totally unnecessary. The current SS database is sufficient to detect phony cards if the feds wanted to use it. The government continues to create a crisis by non-enforcement so they can justify more government tracking of all citizens.

This week's meeting between Bush and Republican Senators was very contentious. Bush failed to convince the opposition about his intentions and received an earful of skepticism on why some could no longer trust the president to follow through with his enforcement promises.

It is no wonder that the real Republican opponents want nothing short of a requirement that Bush ask Congress for a new and separate spending bill, like he does for the Iraq war, to pay for the extra enforcement measures proposed in the new immigration bill before any of its other provisions take effect. But that won't happen because it puts the amnesty portion of implementation secondary to enforcement. Bush want's it the other way around and knows that Congress won't be able to do anything about when Bush neglects to implement his enforcement promises.

The administration's version of limited enforcement is specifically meant to be ineffective, create hardship and drive the call for more "reform." Selective enforcement is also chosen to create more backlash and sympathy for the "plight" of "poor illegal immigrants." Raids are done on a few high profile businesses who cater to illegals, and this then allows the mainstream media to run a series of news stories focusing on the "tragic" breakup of families that comes in the wake of deportation.

Another sign of the administration's true agenda is that the Bush administration is pressing the Senate to table (kill) the House passed bill, Safe American Roads Act of 2007, which prohibits the administration from allowing Mexican trucks unlimited access to all of America's highways. This bill passed the House by a whopping majority of 411-3. Instead of seeking permission from Congress the administration is doing this by Executive edict, requiring both houses of Congress to stop it, which is hard to do.

John Hawkins of RightWingNews.com had some excellent insider access to the President's strategy. Note how devious the ruling elite uses Congressional procedures to manipulate the political process:

"Yesterday, a GOP aide, who is one of my sources in the Senate, gave me the rundown on what's happening with the Senate immigration bill... it does look like the Senate immigration bill is coming back. [Majority Leader Harry Reid, and his Republican counterpart, Kentucky Senator Mitch McConnell, said the Senate would resume debate on immigration possibly as soon as next week.]

"This is despite the fact that the conservative leaders of the anti-amnesty movement are refusing to cooperate, and won't give Mitch McConnell a list of amendments that they want considered. My source tells me that the reason for this is that the game has now been rigged. McConnell is essentially promising to bring the amendments up in exchange for cloture votes, but Trent Lott is publicly saying that they will strip any problematic amendments out in [conference] committee.

"In other words, if the bill gets through the Senate and the House, the Democrats and the open borders Republicans will work together when the bills have to be reconciled in [conference] committee to strip out the 'grand bargainers' don't like. Therefore, at this point, it doesn't matter what amendments pass, because any tough enforcement provisions that slip through will be rendered toothless when the bills are reconciled.

"My source also noted that the cloture vote to end debate will be the 'real' vote on the bill because if debate is closed off, the bill is sure to pass. Then, what will happen is that the votes for the bill will be counted, and a few senators who are afraid that their election prospects will be jeopardized by a 'yes' vote, will be allowed to vote against the bill. This enables those senators to tell their constituents that they voted against the bill... Put another way, they get to reap the rewards of supporting amnesty while telling the voters in their home states that they opposed the bill.

"My source also let me know that the White House and the Senate leadership, and Trent Lott in particular, are pushing very hard for this bill. I asked my source to speculate on why Lott was pushing so hard, and he said that Lott may be naive enough to think that this bill might help John McCain's presidential campaign. He told me that despite McCain's dip in the polls since the bill hit the news, it was hard to miss the fact that the biggest supporters of this bill in the Senate, Jon Kyl, Trent Lott, and Lindsey Graham, are all solidly behind McCain in '08.

Interesting question for you all. A straight up strict Border Enforcement bill went to the US Senate in 2006. The Democrat filibustered it. So obviously screaming slogans like “enforce the law” etc will not fix a broken system.

I guess when a Know Nothing’s car breaks down they scream “Run you car you run or else” and expect the car to work.

You don’t fix a broken system by just screaming slogans and sitting around praising each other for the “brilliance” of your purist dogmas.

So since the dream bill doesn’t have the votes to pass. Are any of you willing to compromise on anything to get what you want on the border?

Cause this has been an odd debate.

For the last few years we heard a daily deluge of “DC got to do something about the Border or we are doomed”. So DC started doing some things and NOW “If DC does this we are doomed.”

So, what are any of you willing to compromise on to get some things done on this issue?

You don’t have the votes to pass only 100% of what you want into law. Listening to you, you will not accept anything less then 100% of what you want. At what point are you all going to realize that is a mutually exclusive position? You can have one or the other, you cannot have both. 100% of what you want, 0 of what you don’t want isn’t going to pass the Senate

So what is next? When this bill dies, what do you all do next? Other then bitch about everything endlessly again?

So, without all the usual histrionics, can some explain to me what you all want? Cause basically you are demanding action and refusing any action less then perfection which you don’t have the votes in DC to get.

Basically the end result is you all are maintaining the status quo. Which, as anyone who has read your posts to this board for the last few years, the status quo on the border is suppose to be “destroying the country”.

Frankly this whole debate has been rather surreal to watch.

The only people who have won anything are the illegals.

Cause now at least 2 more years will pass before this issue gets looked at again. This bill will die and no one in Congress is going to bring it up in an election year. Like every other serious topic, Congress will do everything it can to ignore this until after the elections now.

So maybe instead of just mindlessly screaming bile at everyone who doesn’t agree 100% with your personal Anti Illegal Immigration dogmas, maybe you all better start writing your own Immigration Reform bill and tell DC what you DO want.

Cause right now it seem that all you all really do want is just to be able sit around and bitch, bitch, bitch, bitch year after year after year.
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Democratic Congress Shows Cracks(”more than 60 seats in play in this cycle”)
Posted by MNJohnnie to kellynla
On News/Activism 06/18/2007 10:09:54 AM CDT · 56 of 60

85% of the votes against the Immigration bill came from Republicans.

80% of the votes for the Bill came from Democrats.

That is all a Republican candidate need point out when the Immigration issue comes up.

This is TRUE!

Look what President Eisenhower accomplished on illegal aliens from Mexico in Operation Wetback II. He deported them by the train load.

Now we can't even call 'em wetbacks without the media overreacting in a frenzy of political correctness. SICKOS!

We need to set up camps , next to rail heads and rail truck 'em South whether the government of Mexico likes it or NOT. Mexican repatriation in the biggest aspect of the demographic war being waged by Mexico on the USA.We need to do it yesterday.

Despite the controversy surrounding then ( 1952-1953)Head of Naturalization and Immigration General Swing and Operation wetback, it was highly successful, repatriating more than a million illegals in little over a year.

What we need is Operation Wetback II. And we need to build the fences ASAP. To do that we need to be rid of those in Congress who wish to destroy the America so many of us have worked, and even died, to create.

The issue is not about "racism" or "human rights". It is about sovereignty. Just imagine Mexico's reaction if 7 million Americans illegally immigrated into the northern tier states of Mexico. The Mexican army would start shooting them. The sovereignty of America is at stake, as well as the peace and integrity of our democratic, republican society.

Interesting article on Operation Wetback:

http://www.csmonitor.com/2006/0706/p09s01-coop.html

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How Eisenhower solved illegal border crossings from Mexico By John Dillin

WASHINGTON – George W. Bush isn't the first Republican president to face a full-blown immigration crisis on the US-Mexican border.

Fifty-three years ago, when newly elected Dwight Eisenhower moved into the White House, America's southern frontier was as porous as a spaghetti sieve. As many as 3 million illegal migrants had walked and waded northward over a period of several years for jobs in California, Arizona, Texas, and points beyond.

President Eisenhower cut off this illegal traffic. He did it quickly and decisively with only 1,075 United States Border Patrol agents - less than one-tenth of today's force. The operation is still highly praised among veterans of the Border Patrol.

Although there is little to no record of this operation in Ike's official papers, one piece of historic evidence indicates how he felt. In 1951, Ike wrote a letter to Sen. William Fulbright (D) of Arkansas. The senator had just proposed that a special commission be created by Congress to examine unethical conduct by government officials who accepted gifts and favors in exchange for special treatment of private individuals.

General Eisenhower, who was gearing up for his run for the presidency, said "Amen" to Senator Fulbright's proposal. He then quoted a report in The New York Times, highlighting one paragraph that said: "The rise in illegal border-crossing by Mexican 'wetbacks' to a current rate of more than 1,000,000 cases a year has been accompanied by a curious relaxation in ethical standards extending all the way from the farmer-exploiters of this contraband labor to the highest levels of the Federal Government."

Years later, the late Herbert Brownell Jr., Eisenhower's first attorney general, said in an interview with this writer that the president had a sense of urgency about illegal immigration when he took office.

America "was faced with a breakdown in law enforcement on a very large scale," Mr. Brownell said. "When I say large scale, I mean hundreds of thousands were coming in from Mexico [every year] without restraint."

Although an on-and-off guest-worker program for Mexicans was operating at the time, farmers and ranchers in the Southwest had become dependent on an additional low-cost, docile, illegal labor force of up to 3 million, mostly Mexican, laborers.

According to the Handbook of Texas Online, published by the University of Texas at Austin and the Texas State Historical Association, this illegal workforce had a severe impact on the wages of ordinary working Americans. The Handbook Online reports that a study by the President's Commission on Migratory Labor in Texas in 1950 found that cotton growers in the Rio Grande Valley, where most illegal aliens in Texas worked, paid wages that were "approximately half" the farm wages paid elsewhere in the state.

Profits from illegal labor led to the kind of corruption that apparently worried Eisenhower. Joseph White, a retired 21-year veteran of the Border Patrol, says that in the early 1950s, some senior US officials overseeing immigration enforcement "had friends among the ranchers," and agents "did not dare" arrest their illegal workers.

Walt Edwards, who joined the Border Patrol in 1951, tells a similar story. He says: "When we caught illegal aliens on farms and ranches, the farmer or rancher would often call and complain [to officials in El Paso]. And depending on how politically connected they were, there would be political intervention. That is how we got into this mess we are in now."

Bill Chambers, who worked for a combined 33 years for the Border Patrol and the then-called US Immigration and Naturalization Service (INS), says politically powerful people are still fueling the flow of illegals.

During the 1950s, however, this "Good Old Boy" system changed under Eisenhower - if only for about 10 years.

In 1954, Ike appointed retired Gen. Joseph "Jumpin' Joe" Swing, a former West Point classmate and veteran of the 101st Airborne, as the new INS commissioner.

Influential politicians, including Sen. Lyndon B. Johnson (D) of Texas and Sen. Pat McCarran (D) of Nevada, favored open borders, and were dead set against strong border enforcement, Brownell said. But General Swing's close connections to the president shielded him - and the Border Patrol - from meddling by powerful political and corporate interests.

One of Swing's first decisive acts was to transfer certain entrenched immigration officials out of the border area to other regions of the country where their political connections with people such as Senator Johnson would have no effect.

Then on June 17, 1954, what was called "Operation Wetback" began. Because political resistance was lower in California and Arizona, the roundup of aliens began there. Some 750 agents swept northward through agricultural areas with a goal of 1,000 apprehensions a day. By the end of July, over 50,000 aliens were caught in the two states. Another 488,000, fearing arrest, had fled the country.

By mid-July, the crackdown extended northward into Utah, Nevada, and Idaho, and eastward to Texas.

By September, 80,000 had been taken into custody in Texas, and an estimated 500,000 to 700,000 illegals had left the Lone Star State voluntarily.

Unlike today, Mexicans caught in the roundup were not simply released at the border, where they could easily reenter the US. To discourage their return, Swing arranged for buses and trains to take many aliens deep within Mexico before being set free.

Tens of thousands more were put aboard two hired ships, the Emancipation and the Mercurio. The ships ferried the aliens from Port Isabel, Texas, to Vera Cruz, Mexico, more than 500 miles south.

The sea voyage was "a rough trip, and they did not like it," says Don Coppock, who worked his way up from Border Patrolman in 1941 to eventually head the Border Patrol from 1960 to 1973.

Mr. Coppock says he "cannot understand why [President] Bush let [today's] problem get away from him as it has. I guess it was his compassionate conservatism, and trying to please [Mexican President] Vincente Fox."

There are now said to be 12 million to 20 million illegal aliens in the US. Of the Mexicans who live here, an estimated 85 percent are here illegally.

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