Posted on 06/18/2007 7:33:22 AM PDT by SwinneySwitch
Si,Adios Jorge!!!!!!!!
Bush OUT!
you’re welcome/de nada
btw, doesn’t watching them split hairs/equivocate over what he meant further remind you of “progressives” about `98:
“He didn’t do it!”
“OK, he did it, but it wasn’t sex.”
“Granted it was sex, but it meant nothing.”
“OK, it meant something . . . but you’re stupid.”
Very good find.
After all the riff-raff from Mexico comes up here, all that will be left down there are the elitists.
So since your dream bill doesnt have the votes to pass. Are any of you willing to compromise on anything to get what you want on the border?
Cause this has been an odd debate.
For the last few years we heard a daily deluge of DC got to do something about the Border or we are doomed. So DC started doing some things and NOW If DC does this we are doomed.
So, what are any of you willing to compromise on to get some things done on this issue?
You dont have the votes to pass only 100% of what you want into law. Listening to you, you will not accept anything less then 100% of what you want. At what point are you all going to realize that is a mutually exclusive position? You can have one or the other, you cannot have both. 100% of what you want, 0 of what you don’t want isn’t going to pass the Senate
So what is next? When this bill dies, what do you all do next? Other then bitch about everything endlessly again?
So, without all the usual histrionics, can some explain to me what you all want? Cause basically you are demanding action and refusing any action less then perfection which you dont have the votes in DC to get.
Basically the end result is you all are maintaining the status quo. Which, as anyone who has read your posts to this board for the last few years, the status quo on the border is suppose to be “destroying the country”.
Frankly this whole debate has been rather surreal to watch.
The only people who have won anything are the illegals.
Cause now at least 2 more years will pass before this issue gets looked at again. This bill will die and no one in Congress is going to bring it up in an election year. Like every other serious topic, Congress will do everything it can to ignore this until after the elections now.
So maybe instead of just mindlessly screaming bile at everyone who doesn’t agree 100% with your personal Anti Illegal Immigration dogmas, maybe you all better start writing your own Immigration Reform bill and tell DC what you DO want.
Cause right now it seem that all you all really do want is just to be able sit around and bitch, bitch, bitch, bitch year after year after year.
Cause now at least 2 more years will pass before this issue gets looked at again. This bill will die and no one in Congress is going to bring it up in an election year. Like every other serious topic, Congress will do everything it can to ignore this until after the elections now.
No bill is better than this bill. Granting amnesty will turn the flood of illegals into a deluge as more come here to be in place for the next amnesty that comes about because the likes of Bush didn't do their jobs.
So maybe instead of just mindlessly screaming bile at everyone who doesnt agree 100% with your personal Anti Illegal Immigration dogmas, maybe you all better start writing your own Immigration Reform bill and tell DC what you DO want.
Inhofe already wrote a bill. Try to keep up with current events and work a fact or two into your rants.
I want the laws already on the books enforced.
It is high time the VP do his duty under the constitution and replace our sick President. He tried to do well but the job was obviously too much for him and now he is being led and not leading.
And those leading him are destroying America.
Say what you want, curse who you want and ramble all you want. The facts are clear. This country is being invaded by illegal aliens and the President has made no effort to repell the invasion. Rather, he has only offered to surrender to them. He and his like on both sides of the isle have done nothing but talk. President Bush has done far more damage to the US by word and deed than has that infamous John Kerry, who many call a traitor.
This administration appears just too incompetent on too many fronts.
You say 85% of the votes AGAINST the Immigration bill came from Republicans.
Enforcement of the border and current laws is better than the status quo.
The status quo is better than granting amnesty to people who have trampled our immigration and labor laws.
I do not “mindlessly [scream] bile at everyone who doesnt agree 100% with” me. I have noticed, however, that your posts tend to be somewhat less than cordial.
The way I see it, if you don’t allow the Senate and the President to screw it up worse (which is what the bill does) the problem is still there to be fixed. After stopping the bill and punishing the Senators responsible, the remaining ones can use it for an issue in the next elections, 2008 and 2010. If they don't have the votes to pass a responsible border security policy, then they need to gather the votes the good ol' fashioned way - paint the Democrats as the party of treason and depose 'em.
In any case can you really trust any group of Senators that even refused an amendment to exclude the OBVIOUS undesirables like felons and gang members from the various provisions of the bill?
The trueblue conservative Constitution loving Texans will be a bone of contention to him the rest of his days...(if he's there)
..and it it fails, the big business good ole boys who are lining each other's pockets in hopes of this bill, will not be too happy with George!
A parachute is a kindness, especially since he's not giving US one while we're fighting & defending our sovereignty-(if this bill passes).
No, I don't see Bush retiring to the good state of Texas...
..I think he's bought that choice piece of property--(thousands of acres, I hear)--and it's all waiting for him in South America.
How 'bout asking them to enforce existing laws? Oh, I forgot... those are unenforceable, aren't they? Why will the new ones be enforced?
Let me say this as clearly as I can.
Build the effing wall, North and South. Secure the airports and the harbors.
I do NOT see any reason to include ANY legislation regarding what to do with the illegals already here when discussing what to do with the borders.
Mixing the two and compromising is absolutely rediculous and I'm tired of hearing about it.
If Democrats won't go along with it, then leave them behind.
Republicans better shut the hell up until the borders are secure and forget about their North American Union ideas and their cheap labor supply from South of the border.
Build the wall - and don't bring up legalization of the current crop of illegals until the flow of new illegals has been stopped. PERIOD
Clear enough for you?
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