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Films that Connect Dots
PBS ^ | June 17, 2007 | Hostage

Posted on 06/17/2007 7:44:36 AM PDT by Hostage

1. FARMINGVILLE

In some ways, it's a familiar American story: an influx of illegal immigrants crossing the border from Mexico to do work the locals won't; a flourishing "low-wage" labor market that depends on them; rising tensions with the resident Anglo population; charges and counter-charges of lawlessness and racism; organizing and counter-organizing — then a violent hate crime that tears a community apart. But this isn't the story of a California, Texas or other Southwestern town. It's the story of Farmingville, New York, on Long Island.

http://www.pbs.org/pov/pov2004/farmingville/about.html

2. LIFE AND DEBT

Life and Debt is a just-completed feature-length documentary which addresses the impact of the International Monetary Fund, the World Bank, the Inter-American Development Bank and current globalization policies on a developing country such as Jamaica.

http://www.pbs.org/pov/pov2001/lifeanddebt/ http://www.lifeanddebt.org/

3. H-2 WORKER

H-2 Worker is a controversial expose of the travesty of justice that takes place around the shores of Florida's Lake Okeechobee-a situation which, until the film's release, has been one of America's best-kept secrets. There, for six months a year, over 10,000 men from Jamaica and other Caribbean islands perform the brutal task of cutting sugar cane by hand-a job so dangerous and low-paying that Americans refuse to do it.

http://www.lifeanddebt.org/h2worker/


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: aliens; displacement; dnctalkingpoints; globalization; illegalaliens; immigrantlist; immigration; minimumwagelaw; outsourcing; psb
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Globalization is a real movement backed I believe by the same people that hold controlling interests in world and regional banking. Trade agreements, immigration policies, governments and corporations are focused on displacing local indigent populations and replacing them with a low wage pool of workers for the purpose of securing regional control through corporatism.

In my view corporatism brings forth certain standards of living that are attractive to its clients but are dismal to its workers. Such issues are not new.

The issue of master and slave is always present from generation to generation but the larger issue today is the displacement of local populations by the corporate imported worker class.

The importation of corporate workers has a huge cost in terms of taxes, standard of living and ultimately soveignty.

The idea I have for this post is not to take sides on the corporatism versus local control conflicts but to bring awareness to conservatives of what drives certain things to happen as they do.

There is nothing wrong with international banking but there is definitely a conflict when international bankers see borders, language and culture as annoying impediments to their expansion. They in fact create a framework whereby representative government is abandoned.

The end-all film that completely connects the dots, that has governments and bankers scared and that can be viewed on the internet with a high speed connection is here:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1656880303867390173

1 posted on 06/17/2007 7:44:38 AM PDT by Hostage
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To: Hostage

does the pbs documentary mention that farmingville and its surrounding areas have a serious latin gang problem?


2 posted on 06/17/2007 7:56:54 AM PDT by JohnLongIsland
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To: Hostage

There is no such thing as a job an American wont do. There are salaries they wont work for. There is the rub.

These people are holding down wages.

The Democrats go around pushing minimum wage for Americans while at the same time allowing Mexicans to work for slave wages, and then bringing more in.

Friggin hypocrits.


3 posted on 06/17/2007 8:02:27 AM PDT by sgtbono2002 (http://www.imwithfred.com/index.aspx)
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To: JohnLongIsland

Yes, they present a realistic view of what’s going on from every perspective including illegal crime.

The filmmakers of Farmingville also try to ‘balance’ their fiilm by showing the side of illegals as well as residents. However, they unintentionally show an organized effort to con the American people.

Dishonesty is my whole beef with issues spanning from illegal aliens to globalists to the Federal Reserve/IRS. That’s what ties all these films together for me, the fact that we are being played for fools.


4 posted on 06/17/2007 8:11:30 AM PDT by Hostage (Fred Thompson will be President.)
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To: sgtbono2002
There is no such thing as a job an American wont do. There are salaries they wont work for.

More to the point, there are salaries/wages they won't work for when they're offered the alternative of living on welfare and not working. End the socialist welfare state and the illegal immigration problem will take care of itself. When our homegrown hordes of moochers lose their welfare payments and food stamps and subsidized housing, they'll get hungery and suddenly be willing to work for the same wages the Mexicans are working for.

5 posted on 06/17/2007 8:12:00 AM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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To: Hostage

bookmark


6 posted on 06/17/2007 8:13:17 AM PDT by Kay Ludlow (Free market, but cautious about what I support with my dollars)
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To: sgtbono2002

I hear you and I agree.

But even when the money is good there is a fight.

Case in point, Hawaii Kona Coast and coffee farms. Some farmers imported Mexicans to pick the beans. Machines scrape branches of all beans, ripe and unripe. Unripe beans create an acidic taste that repulses. Therefore, hand picked beans grab a premium.

Picking a bag amount of coffee beans can fetch $100. Hard work but if one hustles, six-seven bags a day is achievable. Six days a week, for ten weeks can earn up to $42,000.

That kind of money the Mexicans will fight for. They unionized themselves and will not allow any locals to work the fields.

I guarantee you I could round up a group of young Americans that would be willing to go to Hawaii, work hard and bring home 40 grand. It’s a no brainer. But I would have to equip them with a security force because they would be attacked.


7 posted on 06/17/2007 8:22:23 AM PDT by Hostage (Fred Thompson will be President.)
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To: GovernmentShrinker

The low wages are good for business but bad for the economy as many of those dollars go back to Mexico rather than circulate in the US economy.

I’ve read that cash transfers are the number 2 financial source in Mexico behind oil.


8 posted on 06/17/2007 8:27:55 AM PDT by weegee (Libs want us to learn to live with terrorism, but if a gun is used they want to rewrite the Const.)
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To: Hostage

bookmark


9 posted on 06/17/2007 8:48:54 AM PDT by FReepapalooza
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To: weegee

When you start grumbling about banks, corps, globalization and the Fed Reserve you are entering the territory of loony conspiracy theories. Don’t forget to blame the jooos.


10 posted on 06/17/2007 8:55:16 AM PDT by ClaireSolt (Have you have gotten mixed up in a mish-masher?)
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To: Hostage

If you take your example and move it to the future I see them doing the same with roofing and other jobs , freezing out anyone not Mexican.

It will happen eventually but right now they arent strong enough. Our politicians and people pushing illegal immigration cannot look ahead and see this happening. Right now all they want is cheap labor.


11 posted on 06/17/2007 8:57:54 AM PDT by sgtbono2002 (http://www.imwithfred.com/index.aspx)
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To: Hostage

I think you are on the right track but the details are dead end spur lines. Commerce is the engine but the rest of the train needs a wider view.


12 posted on 06/17/2007 8:58:25 AM PDT by RightWhale (Repeal the Treaty)
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To: weegee

But just imagine the benefits of forcing Americans off welfare. In a FREE MARKET, employers should be able to pay workers whatever they’re worth to the employer and let them go whenever they don’t want or need them anymore. Interfere with the free market by making huge welfare benefits available to non-workers (including medical care for themselves and their children), and by saddling employers with expensive regulations, minimum wages, worker’s comp payments, and huge legal bills if they try to get rid of an amployee they don’t want or need, and the illegals swarm in because the FREE MARKET wants them. Nearly all employers would much prefer to hire legal employees, if they could hire them on FREE MARKET terms, the way they can hire the illegals.

The free market is a very pwerful force, and it is the magnet that’s drawing all these illegals over the border and into the arms of employers who are being suffocated by socialism.


13 posted on 06/17/2007 9:46:00 AM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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To: GovernmentShrinker

Ah, that sounds so good. ((((sigh))))


14 posted on 06/17/2007 9:48:00 AM PDT by tioga (Fred Thompson for President.)
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To: weegee
Tax remittances to Mexico:
                        Cost of money transfer   $9.99
                        Proposed Transfer Tax $25.00 up to $500
Total cost to illegal to transfer money   $34.99
 
                        Cost of money transfer   $9.99
                        Proposed Transfer Tax $45.00 up to $500-$1000
Total cost to illegal to transfer money    $54.99

15 posted on 06/17/2007 10:44:41 AM PDT by Wolverine (A Concerned Citizen)
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To: ClaireSolt

No I haven’t entered any area of lunacy. My father was Jewish. I have complete respect for Jewish culture and Israel.

You need to see the films I posted.

The last internet film I posted in my comments, Post #1 was produced and directed by a Hollywood ‘Jew’, what you call a jooo.

I think you are ignoring reality and lumping anyone that connects the dots into your convenient category of ‘looney’.

After you watch the Hollywood ‘Jew’’s internet film, and especially after you watch ‘Life and Debt’ (which you will have to order or rent), you won’t be so smug.


16 posted on 06/17/2007 10:56:25 AM PDT by Hostage (Fred Thompson will be President.)
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To: Hostage

>>There, for six months a year, over 10,000 men from Jamaica and other Caribbean islands perform the brutal task of cutting sugar cane by hand-a job so dangerous and low-paying that Americans refuse to do it.

The bottom line is that producers need to invest more in automation machinery, which is what would happen absent all these low-wage workers.


17 posted on 06/17/2007 10:58:33 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Guns themselves are fairly robust; their chief enemies are rust and politicians) (NRA)
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To: Hostage

PBS, NPR and their ilk love covering and dwelling on (and almost fawning over sometimes) crimes by whites against non-whites. Crimes that go the other way? Ehh. Not so much.


18 posted on 06/17/2007 11:01:57 AM PDT by ruination
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To: FreedomPoster

Sugar cane fieldwork is completely mechanized. The cane processing is still very labor intensive.

You are right in that the Florida cane should be cut by machine. It is still a mystery to me why it is not. Perhaps some Florida Freepers can tell us why.

The Kona coffee however should not be mechanized. It needs to be handpicked if people want good tasting coffee. The reason for this was explained in Post #7.


19 posted on 06/17/2007 11:07:07 AM PDT by Hostage (Fred Thompson will be President.)
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To: ruination

These films were produced independent of PBS.

Sorry I should have chosen other webpages to link to but the posting page wants a source URL and PBS was convenient.

But you are right that there is a bias in general but in these films the directors are fairly balanced. They present facts from different angles.

The films are nonetheless educational and can be used to develop a more objective and informed perspective.


20 posted on 06/17/2007 11:10:16 AM PDT by Hostage (Fred Thompson will be President.)
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