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Exclusive: Shocking finding on US Department of State Website - Questions on Amnesty.
jedward ^ | 6-16-2007 | jedward

Posted on 06/16/2007 3:08:21 PM PDT by jedward

Where's one of the best places to learn about the United States?  Let's take a visit to the US Department of State's website and see what we can find.  When you first get to http://www.state.gov you are presented with the wonderful colors of Red White and Blue.  It's very easy to immediately see that a great deal of effort has gone into this wonderful place of learning.  So, back to the goal at hand, let's find the United States.  From the homepage you see an option to click on "Regions" and listed under that heading is the "Western Hemisphere".  That looks like the place to go, so let's click there.  Now, at this point we are at the "Bureau of Western Hemisphere Affairs".  Now along the left hand side we see a link for "Countries and Other Areas", so naturally we click there expecting to find the United States.  We see many countries listed like Cuba, Venezuela, Columbia and even Mexico, but for some reason the United States is not listed.

Well, surely the webpage didn't load properly, so we refresh the page and scroll back down and it's still not there.  At this point it's easy to say, I've missed something, so let's go back to the Homepage.  Now, we click on "Countries" again from the Homepage and immediately see a "Counties A-Z" link.  That's it, let's click there and stop all this searching.  Ok, the A-Z list is showing now, we see Cuba, China, Venezuela, Iran, Syria and North Korea.  We get to the U's and we don't see the United States.  Maybe they called it America instead, so let's scroll up and look under the A's.  The United States isn't listed there either.  While wondering in confusion we see near the "A's" a link titled "Independent States of the World", not Countries, but States.  So we click there and finally find the United States listed under the "U" section, only to my surprise there's no link on any of the "States" listed, just a name and number.

Last but not least, let's just go back to the Homepage and type "United States" in the search box and see what shows up first.

US Department of State - Home Page

... temporarily enter and depart the United States by air ... identification and Department
of State official proof ... USA.gov, What's New | Frequent Questions | Contact ...
www.state.gov/ - 2007-06-16

Shown above is what we see.  It gives us a link back to the Homepage, so that wasn't exactly helpful.

Let's play one more time.  Let's start at the Homepage, Click on "Western Hemisphere".  Now stop!  Look at the second item on the left side, the one that says "U.S. and Organization of American States".  Apparently the OAS (Organization of American States) can be spelled out, but not the United States, at least on the United State's Department of State's website anyway.  So click on that link and look for the United States link next to the Organizations of American States.  Or look below, and here's what we see:

The U.S. and the Organization of American States

---  OAS Background Information
---  Hemispheric Security
---  Organization of American States' Website
---  OAS General Assembly
---  Releases

Don't worry if your having trouble finding the United States listed above, because its not there.

You have found what the Department of State recognizes as your Country.

http://www.state.gov

http://www.state.gov/countries/

http://www.state.gov/p/wha/ci/

http://www.state.gov/misc/list/index.htm

http://www.state.gov/p/wha/rt/oas/


So you don't see the United States, let's see what information is presented.

The U.S. and the Organization of American States  http://www.oas.org

The U.S. Mission to the Organization of American States (OAS) is headed by Acting U.S. Permanent Representative J. Robert Manzanares. The OAS is the premier multilateral forum in the Western Hemisphere. Its 35 members are countries from North, South, and Central America, the Caribbean, and Canada. The charter of the OAS states that its basic objectives are to:

As a member of the OAS, the United States is committed to strengthening and working with the organization. This reflects the U.S. Government's determination to make optimal use of multilateral diplomacy to resolve regional problems and to engage its neighbors on topics of hemispheric concern.

Inter-American Democratic Charter
Remarks on the Occasion of the Special Meeting of the Permanent Council to Commemorate the Fifth Anniversary of the Adoption of the Inter-American Democratic Charter

The particulars of social and economic development are addressed through the commitments our leaders make at the Summits, and carried out through the Summits of the Americas process. That includes commitments to concrete, measurable actions, such as those which empower our people through property rights, remittances, and small business loans. The IDB’s new initiative, "Building Opportunity for the Majority," addresses these critical needs for the 40% of the people in the hemisphere who live on $3 a day or less, at the base of the pyramid.


Question:  Is there an American Union?  Answer:  Yes, there is and always has been one as originally titled such back in 1890.  Today, it's still an American Union, only it goes by a different name (see the "Established" below).  That should end any questions regarding whether there is or isn't one.  If there isn't, then the Department of State might want to consider including the United States as a Country in the Western Hemisphere some day.

May 30, 2007

Organization of American States  http://www.oas.org

Established: April 14, 1890, as the International Union of American Republics. Became the Pan American Union in 1910, then the Organization of American States in 1948 with the adoption of the OAS Charter in Bogotá, Colombia.

SPECIALIZED ORGANIZATIONS AND OTHER ENTITIES
Much important inter-American business is conducted by separate entities, some of which are independent, some fully or partially funded by the OAS, and others consisting simply of periodic hemispheric meetings which receive support from the OAS Secretariat. Subjects covered include agriculture, labor, copyrights, private international law, highways, ports and harbors, railways, telecommunications, health and sanitation, statistics, travel, child welfare, women's issues, Indian affairs, and tourism. The conferences are attended by high-level officials and technical experts to further inter-American cooperation in these fields.

The Inter-American Children's Institute (IIN)  http://www.iin.oas.org

The Inter-American Commission of Women (CIM) http://www.oas.org/cim

The Inter-American Defense Board (IADB) http://www.iid.org

The IADB has as one of its principal organizations the Inter-American Defense College http://www.jid.org/en/college/

The Inter-American Development Bank (IDB)  http://www.iidb.org

The Inter-American Institute for Cooperation in Agriculture (IICA)  http://www.iica.int

The Pan American Health Organization (PAHO) http://www.paho.org

The Pan American Institute of Geography and History (PAIGH)  http://www.igph.org

The Pan American Development Foundation (PADF)  http://www.padf.org

Question:  Is the 2007 Amnesty Bill a joke or a diversion of some kind?  Answer:  You should be able to answer that question by now...

Message to ALL Republicans & Democrats:  Unless you're ok with the dissolution of the United States and your Country not even getting a link on the Department of State's web-site, then stopping this Immigration/Amnesty bill should be your priority right now.  This is the first step in "We The People" meaning something again!

jedward


TOPICS: Editorial; Front Page News; Government; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: 2007; amnesty; immigration; oas; statedept
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To: jedward
You might be interested in this.

A three-pronged plan to bring America down (Bush's Amnesty advances North American Union)
201 posted on 06/17/2007 3:47:43 PM PDT by hedgetrimmer (I'm a billionaire! Thanks WTO and the "free trade" system!--Hu Jintao top 10 worst dictators)
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To: Half Vast Conspiracy

Wait a minute. That was an insult wans’t it?


202 posted on 06/17/2007 3:47:46 PM PDT by jedward (Mission '08 - Take back the House & Senate. No Negotiations...No Prisoners.)
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To: WorkerbeeCitizen

“Did you know he is married to Naturalized American Citizen of Mexican heritage?

Apparently, she also is against illegal immigration.”

I wasn’t aware of that, no...that’s interesting. She probably understands the DOS as well.


203 posted on 06/17/2007 3:50:17 PM PDT by jedward (Mission '08 - Take back the House & Senate. No Negotiations...No Prisoners.)
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To: hedgetrimmer

I saw that, that’s a great thread. I pulled the CNN Lou Dobbs video link from there.


204 posted on 06/17/2007 3:52:08 PM PDT by jedward (Mission '08 - Take back the House & Senate. No Negotiations...No Prisoners.)
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To: WorkerbeeCitizen

hummm - Just another reason NOT to be there.
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True Dat,,,Being over-run by Mexicans is another,,,

By this time next week we should know if the “bILL” passes the next vote,,,don’t think it won’t come back though...

commies always come back...


205 posted on 06/17/2007 3:52:28 PM PDT by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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To: Czar; Borax Queen; Quix
Let's play one more time. Let's start at the Homepage, Click on "Western Hemisphere". Now stop! Look at the second item on the left side, the one that says "U.S. and Organization of American States". Apparently the OAS (Organization of American States) can be spelled out, but not the United States, at least on the United State's Department of State's website anyway. So click on that link and look for the United States link next to the Organizations of American States. Or look below, and here's what we see:
ping!
206 posted on 06/17/2007 3:53:42 PM PDT by nicmarlo
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To: 1COUNTER-MORTER-68

“By this time next week we should know if the “bILL” passes the next vote,,,don’t think it won’t come back though...”

I’m as fired up as anyone about killing this bill right now. Until people get their head out of the sand and realize what’s been happening on the Western Hemisphere the past 60+ years, then Amnesty will continue to be brought up until the numb citizens finally get tired of fighting. This is why I truely couldn’t care less who wins any primaries right now as long as this is on the table. If it passes, “We the People...” have lost.


207 posted on 06/17/2007 3:57:13 PM PDT by jedward (Mission '08 - Take back the House & Senate. No Negotiations...No Prisoners.)
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To: jedward
"This is why I truely couldn’t care less who wins any primaries right now as long as this is on the table. If it passes, “We the People...” have lost."

Thanx for that :)

208 posted on 06/17/2007 4:01:05 PM PDT by WorkerbeeCitizen (An American Patriot and an anti-Islam kind of fellow. (POI))
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To: WorkerbeeCitizen

No problem, it’s the hard cold truth, and I hate it.


209 posted on 06/17/2007 4:05:06 PM PDT by jedward (Mission '08 - Take back the House & Senate. No Negotiations...No Prisoners.)
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To: jedward

Just another commie-gimmie when it’s uncovered...


210 posted on 06/17/2007 4:24:29 PM PDT by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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To: jedward
Yes, I was right, I see.

Tell me, where do you think I got the list of names?

211 posted on 06/17/2007 4:41:18 PM PDT by Mad Dawgg ("`Eddies,' said Ford, `in the space-time continuum.' `Ah,' nodded Arthur, `is he? Is he?'")
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To: Mad Dawgg; jedward
Its all very clear to me, it can be surmised that the poster of the article majored in inductive reasoning and graduated with honors.

ROTFLMAO!! That's one of the wittiest comments I've seen for a while!

Sorry, jedward, no offense. I'm still not sure why you were going on so about the DOS webpage. Maybe I just got confused. What was the point?

212 posted on 06/17/2007 4:50:36 PM PDT by de meanr (Hunter / Thompson 08 - Fear and Loathing in DC)
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To: Mad Dawgg

I would hate to speculate.


213 posted on 06/17/2007 4:51:07 PM PDT by jedward (Mission '08 - Take back the House & Senate. No Negotiations...No Prisoners.)
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To: jedward
"I would hate to speculate."

Irony?

What next?

214 posted on 06/17/2007 5:00:31 PM PDT by Mad Dawgg ("`Eddies,' said Ford, `in the space-time continuum.' `Ah,' nodded Arthur, `is he? Is he?'")
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To: nicmarlo
"Apparently the OAS (Organization of American States) can be spelled out, but not the United States, at least on the United State's Department of State's website anyway."

Ah yes, the State Department. Good old Foggy Bottom can always be counted on to rush right to the front of the anti-American line. Baggy pants diplomats who never ever accomplished anything of substance for the United States in their sorry lives.

215 posted on 06/17/2007 5:10:58 PM PDT by Czar ( StillFedUptotheTeeth@Washington)
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To: de meanr

“Its all very clear to me, it can be surmised that the poster of the article majored in inductive reasoning and graduated with honors.
ROTFLMAO!! That’s one of the wittiest comments I’ve seen for a while!

Sorry, jedward, no offense. I’m still not sure why you were going on so about the DOS webpage. Maybe I just got confused. What was the point?”

LOL..no offense taken. The Article was informative. If someone doesn’t get anything out of it, I can understand that. I expect that from some.


216 posted on 06/17/2007 5:11:10 PM PDT by jedward (Mission '08 - Take back the House & Senate. No Negotiations...No Prisoners.)
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To: Czar

If you have time, you should read the entire post he made...it’s quite astounding, actually.


217 posted on 06/17/2007 5:40:32 PM PDT by nicmarlo
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To: jedward

Well, here are a few from early on, with your non-responses:

“I wouldn’t expect to find much domestic info about the United States at the Department of State’s web site. What sort of information were you hoping to learn?” - Good question HAL9000. A good place to see how we expect the world to recognize the United States, and it basically doesn’t.

“So what does that have to do with amnesty?” - Are you serious? Surely you didn’t read. If you did, then I can’t help you.

“OAS = amnesty?” - Yes, you are proving yourself to be extremely dense and thus far incapable of reading.

“I don’t understand your comment. Why should the State Department list the US on the Country list?” - Ok, then I’ll use your argument. Why is the US listed with OAS at all? Are we confused about who we do relations with?

“I might not be the brightest bulb amongst the group but why would it be necessary to link back to itself from state.gov’s page?” - For some, it will flip the light. I could have picked 20 other scenarios depending on the “crowd”

After that it seems people stopped asking you questions. BTW, I didn’t need these questions answered, I was just pointing out that your responses seemed designed to be ridiculing rather than informative.


218 posted on 06/17/2007 5:45:24 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: jedward

I think you are trying to make a point, not trying to find something. And I think the responses others have will inform you as to whether you succeeded in making a point.


219 posted on 06/17/2007 5:47:07 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: jedward

I apologize that I have not actually commented one bit about the merits of the message you seem to be trying to convey. I was simply struck by your responses to people who semeed genuinely interested in trying to figure out what you were saying, and you were rude and evasive.


220 posted on 06/17/2007 5:48:54 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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