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Exclusive: Shocking finding on US Department of State Website - Questions on Amnesty.
jedward ^ | 6-16-2007 | jedward

Posted on 06/16/2007 3:08:21 PM PDT by jedward

Where's one of the best places to learn about the United States?  Let's take a visit to the US Department of State's website and see what we can find.  When you first get to http://www.state.gov you are presented with the wonderful colors of Red White and Blue.  It's very easy to immediately see that a great deal of effort has gone into this wonderful place of learning.  So, back to the goal at hand, let's find the United States.  From the homepage you see an option to click on "Regions" and listed under that heading is the "Western Hemisphere".  That looks like the place to go, so let's click there.  Now, at this point we are at the "Bureau of Western Hemisphere Affairs".  Now along the left hand side we see a link for "Countries and Other Areas", so naturally we click there expecting to find the United States.  We see many countries listed like Cuba, Venezuela, Columbia and even Mexico, but for some reason the United States is not listed.

Well, surely the webpage didn't load properly, so we refresh the page and scroll back down and it's still not there.  At this point it's easy to say, I've missed something, so let's go back to the Homepage.  Now, we click on "Countries" again from the Homepage and immediately see a "Counties A-Z" link.  That's it, let's click there and stop all this searching.  Ok, the A-Z list is showing now, we see Cuba, China, Venezuela, Iran, Syria and North Korea.  We get to the U's and we don't see the United States.  Maybe they called it America instead, so let's scroll up and look under the A's.  The United States isn't listed there either.  While wondering in confusion we see near the "A's" a link titled "Independent States of the World", not Countries, but States.  So we click there and finally find the United States listed under the "U" section, only to my surprise there's no link on any of the "States" listed, just a name and number.

Last but not least, let's just go back to the Homepage and type "United States" in the search box and see what shows up first.

US Department of State - Home Page

... temporarily enter and depart the United States by air ... identification and Department
of State official proof ... USA.gov, What's New | Frequent Questions | Contact ...
www.state.gov/ - 2007-06-16

Shown above is what we see.  It gives us a link back to the Homepage, so that wasn't exactly helpful.

Let's play one more time.  Let's start at the Homepage, Click on "Western Hemisphere".  Now stop!  Look at the second item on the left side, the one that says "U.S. and Organization of American States".  Apparently the OAS (Organization of American States) can be spelled out, but not the United States, at least on the United State's Department of State's website anyway.  So click on that link and look for the United States link next to the Organizations of American States.  Or look below, and here's what we see:

The U.S. and the Organization of American States

---  OAS Background Information
---  Hemispheric Security
---  Organization of American States' Website
---  OAS General Assembly
---  Releases

Don't worry if your having trouble finding the United States listed above, because its not there.

You have found what the Department of State recognizes as your Country.

http://www.state.gov

http://www.state.gov/countries/

http://www.state.gov/p/wha/ci/

http://www.state.gov/misc/list/index.htm

http://www.state.gov/p/wha/rt/oas/


So you don't see the United States, let's see what information is presented.

The U.S. and the Organization of American States  http://www.oas.org

The U.S. Mission to the Organization of American States (OAS) is headed by Acting U.S. Permanent Representative J. Robert Manzanares. The OAS is the premier multilateral forum in the Western Hemisphere. Its 35 members are countries from North, South, and Central America, the Caribbean, and Canada. The charter of the OAS states that its basic objectives are to:

As a member of the OAS, the United States is committed to strengthening and working with the organization. This reflects the U.S. Government's determination to make optimal use of multilateral diplomacy to resolve regional problems and to engage its neighbors on topics of hemispheric concern.

Inter-American Democratic Charter
Remarks on the Occasion of the Special Meeting of the Permanent Council to Commemorate the Fifth Anniversary of the Adoption of the Inter-American Democratic Charter

The particulars of social and economic development are addressed through the commitments our leaders make at the Summits, and carried out through the Summits of the Americas process. That includes commitments to concrete, measurable actions, such as those which empower our people through property rights, remittances, and small business loans. The IDB’s new initiative, "Building Opportunity for the Majority," addresses these critical needs for the 40% of the people in the hemisphere who live on $3 a day or less, at the base of the pyramid.


Question:  Is there an American Union?  Answer:  Yes, there is and always has been one as originally titled such back in 1890.  Today, it's still an American Union, only it goes by a different name (see the "Established" below).  That should end any questions regarding whether there is or isn't one.  If there isn't, then the Department of State might want to consider including the United States as a Country in the Western Hemisphere some day.

May 30, 2007

Organization of American States  http://www.oas.org

Established: April 14, 1890, as the International Union of American Republics. Became the Pan American Union in 1910, then the Organization of American States in 1948 with the adoption of the OAS Charter in Bogotá, Colombia.

SPECIALIZED ORGANIZATIONS AND OTHER ENTITIES
Much important inter-American business is conducted by separate entities, some of which are independent, some fully or partially funded by the OAS, and others consisting simply of periodic hemispheric meetings which receive support from the OAS Secretariat. Subjects covered include agriculture, labor, copyrights, private international law, highways, ports and harbors, railways, telecommunications, health and sanitation, statistics, travel, child welfare, women's issues, Indian affairs, and tourism. The conferences are attended by high-level officials and technical experts to further inter-American cooperation in these fields.

The Inter-American Children's Institute (IIN)  http://www.iin.oas.org

The Inter-American Commission of Women (CIM) http://www.oas.org/cim

The Inter-American Defense Board (IADB) http://www.iid.org

The IADB has as one of its principal organizations the Inter-American Defense College http://www.jid.org/en/college/

The Inter-American Development Bank (IDB)  http://www.iidb.org

The Inter-American Institute for Cooperation in Agriculture (IICA)  http://www.iica.int

The Pan American Health Organization (PAHO) http://www.paho.org

The Pan American Institute of Geography and History (PAIGH)  http://www.igph.org

The Pan American Development Foundation (PADF)  http://www.padf.org

Question:  Is the 2007 Amnesty Bill a joke or a diversion of some kind?  Answer:  You should be able to answer that question by now...

Message to ALL Republicans & Democrats:  Unless you're ok with the dissolution of the United States and your Country not even getting a link on the Department of State's web-site, then stopping this Immigration/Amnesty bill should be your priority right now.  This is the first step in "We The People" meaning something again!

jedward


TOPICS: Editorial; Front Page News; Government; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: 2007; amnesty; immigration; oas; statedept
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To: palmer

Well, try not to hold my last post against me (ducking) :)


101 posted on 06/16/2007 6:27:38 PM PDT by jedward (Mission '08 - Take back the House & Senate. No Negotiations...No Prisoners.)
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To: jedward

No problem. My major bone to pick was your choice of title words like “shocking”. It is really not a shock to many of us, and I believe I can legitimately speak for many. Your analysis of the website was good and worth spending your time on and worth talking about. But shocking? No, not shocking at all.


102 posted on 06/16/2007 6:31:48 PM PDT by palmer
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To: philetus

Other countries presumably get advice about traveling to the US from their own foreign ministry, for which they pay taxes to provide services to them.


103 posted on 06/16/2007 6:31:53 PM PDT by mhx
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To: palmer

Agreed, I was not shocked myself. I admit to using a MSM tactic on the title :( (lol). I appreciate your words.


104 posted on 06/16/2007 6:34:05 PM PDT by jedward (Mission '08 - Take back the House & Senate. No Negotiations...No Prisoners.)
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To: jedward

Ah, now I get it. “shocking” in the title was used in irony.


105 posted on 06/16/2007 6:34:14 PM PDT by palmer
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To: palmer

Just an attention grabber :) But it is sort of ironic. I am actually glad to see others that are not truely shocked. Makes me feel MUCH better :)


106 posted on 06/16/2007 6:37:56 PM PDT by jedward (Mission '08 - Take back the House & Senate. No Negotiations...No Prisoners.)
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To: jedward

I’m just shocked that I didn’t get it sooner.


107 posted on 06/16/2007 6:40:33 PM PDT by palmer
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To: philetus

I tested the theory by going through an anonymizer that was going through Australia, and saw the same home page. So I don’t think there is any particular localization of the page going on.


108 posted on 06/16/2007 6:40:59 PM PDT by mhx
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To: palmer

lol


109 posted on 06/16/2007 6:43:46 PM PDT by jedward (Mission '08 - Take back the House & Senate. No Negotiations...No Prisoners.)
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To: jedward

Just say NO to Illegal Alien Amnesty!! Keep calling!! It’s NOT OVER!!

U.S. Senate switchboard: (202) 224-3121

U.S. House switchboard: (202) 225-3121

White House comments: (202) 456-1111

Find your House Rep.: http://www.house.gov/writerep

Find your US Senators: http://www.senate.gov/general/contact_information/senators_cfm.cfm


110 posted on 06/16/2007 8:57:49 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Fred Thompson/John Bolton 2008)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Bump! Thanks 2ndDivisionVet


111 posted on 06/16/2007 9:00:35 PM PDT by jedward (Mission '08 - Take back the House & Senate. No Negotiations...No Prisoners.)
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To: palmer
To ease the melding, or even the possibility of melding, of previously sovereign nations with distinct cultures, what must you first have? (Hint: it's a tactic to desensitize the American people to the ubiquitous presence of aliens).

Commonsense is just as available to dark forces as to light but complacency seems to be a sin of the patriot.

112 posted on 06/16/2007 9:07:21 PM PDT by William Terrell (Individuals can exist without government but government can't exist without individuals.)
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To: jedward

LOL!!


113 posted on 06/16/2007 9:26:10 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! "Read my lips....No new RINO's" !!)
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To: William Terrell

BUMP DAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


114 posted on 06/16/2007 10:22:19 PM PDT by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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To: eeevil conservative

Ping! From last weeks show, the guy name “Bart” should have read this before the show (lol) Long read, but worth it.


115 posted on 06/16/2007 11:05:59 PM PDT by jedward (Mission '08 - Take back the House & Senate. No Negotiations...No Prisoners.)
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To: 1COUNTER-MORTER-68

Bumpidy! Hey there!


116 posted on 06/16/2007 11:06:27 PM PDT by jedward (Mission '08 - Take back the House & Senate. No Negotiations...No Prisoners.)
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To: jedward
Not at all. This was more of an informative post for those that still don’t see the bigger picture

Your perception of "informative" is itself "informative".

117 posted on 06/16/2007 11:20:47 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: HAL9000; jedward
Perhaps those links contain the information you're searching for.

I believe you have misunderstood, he isn't searching for anything.

118 posted on 06/16/2007 11:25:00 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: kabar; jedward

You’ve probably served our country for more years than he has lived in this world.


119 posted on 06/16/2007 11:31:28 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: jedward
Help me understand how to answer those that say “What does this have to do with Amnesty”. I really have a hard time answering those

Having read your post, I'd say that if you have something to say about things, you do seem to have a hard time doing so, whether it's answering the question above, or anything else.

But don't worry, as you grow older you could well learn to communicate more effectively. Part of which might be to learn that answering questions when you've failed to communicate is a better response than ridiculing those who have tried to decipher your meaning in spite of it's flaws.

120 posted on 06/16/2007 11:37:31 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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