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International Treaty Used in Motion to Dismiss Molestation Case (Criminal Alien Molests 8-Month Old)
Clayton News Daily ^ | June 13, 2007 | Daniel Silliman

Posted on 06/15/2007 5:09:53 AM PDT by DogByte6RER

International treaty used in motion to dismiss molestation case

By Daniel Silliman

dsilliman@news-daily.com

Published: June 13, 2007 11:05 pm

Even the defense attorney admitted it was a long shot.

Citing an international treaty, Stephen Mackie argued charges of aggravated child molestation, aggravated battery and cruelty to children should be dismissed because police didn’t tell the accused man he could seek advice from the Mexican consulate.

According to the Vienna Convention, signed in 1963, “foreign nationals” have to be advised of their right to seek legal council from their country’s consulate, when they are arrested.

Mackie said the requirement -- sort an international version of Miranda rights -- said the consulate officer could help the defendant navigate the unfamiliar laws of the country and explain the rights of the individual, such as the right to remain silent.

The United States Supreme Court’s rulings on the application of the treaty are mixed, Mackie told Clayton County Superior Court Judge Matthew Simmons. “I know the law is against me, as it currently stands, but that could change,” Mackie said. A second pre-trial motion, citing the same international treaty, asked to have the defendant’s statements to police suppressed.

The prosecutor, Deputy Chief District Attorney John Turner, said he’d never seen the Vienna Treaty used as a defense in a superior court. “It’s just something you rarely see, or in my case, never,” he said.

The defendant, Eligio Chia-Duran. Chia-Duran, wore a black headset, during the proceedings, and listened to his lawyer’s arguments through a translator. Wearing a red, Clayton County Jail jumpsuit, he occasionally looked over his shoulder to glance at the two Forest Park Police Department detectives who arrested him the day after Christmas.

Chia-Duran. Chia-Duran, a native of Mexico, is accused of molesting an 8-month-old girl. When the girl was brought to Southern Regional Medical Center, on Dec. 25, she had 30 bruises on her body, her ribs, vertebrae and skull were fractured, leaving her paralyzed. She had blood in her diaper, her brain was bleeding, and physical evidence suggested she had been molested.

Turner said about 100 pages of single-spaced medical records, verified by more than five doctors, is “unrefutable” evidence against Chia-Duran. Chia-Duran faces a possible maximum sentence of 60 years in prison.

Turner argued there was no evidence of “harm or prejudice,” because Chia-Duran wasn’t told of his right to seek help from the Mexican consulate, and the detectives had no way of knowing the man wasn’t an American citizen.

“He didn’t tell police he was a foreign national,” Turner said. “The police dealt with him they way they would with any citizen.”

Detective Kelvin Jackson said, after the hearing, that he knew foreign nationals had to be told of that right, but the man had a South Carolina driver’s license and didn’t give him any reason to think of the Treaty of Vienna.

Mackie, a privately-retained attorney from Sandy Springs, Ga., said the argument was only a pretense. “The man doesn’t speak any English,” he said. “I think it’s kind of specious to suggest the police didn’t know he was a foreign national.”

Judge Simmons ruled against the motion to dismiss the case, and against the motion to suppress Chia-Duran’s statements to police. He did grant Mackie a month continuance, in the case, to allow him time to review medical records and consult a medical expert.

The prosecution and defense are in talks about negotiating a plea. Turner said the district attorney’s office has agreed to a 15-year sentence, if Chia-Duran pleads guilty by Friday, June 22.

The trial is set to begin next month.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; Miscellaneous; US: Georgia
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; borders; illegalaleins; illegals; immigrantlist; invasionusa; mexico; moralabsolutes
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Sick and twisted. Adding insult to injury is the lawyer trying to use an "international treaty" to get this perv off the hook.

1 posted on 06/15/2007 5:09:56 AM PDT by DogByte6RER
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2 posted on 06/15/2007 5:16:15 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: DogByte6RER
The cop should have checked to see if he was a foreign national. That said, the defendant was able to get a lawyer and present a defense. This creep’s rights have not been violated in any way that would have effected this case.

Besides, given the number of Mexicans both legal and illegal in this country, the Mexican Embassy would need to open a 24 hour call center to field every notification they are entitled to under the treaty. Because IIRC it cover arrests, not just prosecutions so there are a lot of misdemeanors included.

3 posted on 06/15/2007 5:20:31 AM PDT by GreenLanternCorps (Thompson for President: 2008, 2012: Jindal for President 2016, 2020)
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To: DogByte6RER

Looks like the police need to advise suspects of their “rights” under the Vienna Convention as well as Miranda- and recite it all in 10 different langauges, of course.


4 posted on 06/15/2007 5:23:23 AM PDT by silverleaf (Fasten your seat belts- it's going to be a BUMPY ride.)
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To: Calpernia

Its good I am not a cop because I would forget the d@mn Miranda & just take a monster like this out & shoot him between the eyes. I wonder if the mother is sticking by her man? Shaking here with total disgust. I guess we are paying for this scummers defense too?


5 posted on 06/15/2007 5:27:34 AM PDT by pandoraou812 ( zero tolerance to the will of Allah ...... dilligaf? with an efg.....)
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Pandoraou812 for Police Chief!!!!


6 posted on 06/15/2007 5:28:18 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: DogByte6RER

“...and the detectives had no way of knowing the man wasn’t an American citizen...”

Of course they didn’t! They aren’t allowed to ask!!! This is Catch 22 BS in spades.


7 posted on 06/15/2007 5:30:24 AM PDT by bk1000 (A clear conscience is a sure sign of a poor memory)
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>>>I guess we are paying for this scummers defense too?

It’s worse than that.

If this Alien gets to go to our prisons, he gets medical, health care, and paid if he enters UNICOR (Federal Prison Industries).

When an alien joins the UNICOR prison labor program, they get paid. The money goes into a trust for them. If reparations are needed to be paid to victims, the money is deducted from that; but the balance is theirs.

So, after their imprisonment, they get deported with education, health management and monies made from the prison labor program.


8 posted on 06/15/2007 5:35:40 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: DogByte6RER
Is this little girl still alive, and if so, what is her condition?

As for the animal that did this to her, I say...


9 posted on 06/15/2007 5:36:37 AM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner ("Si vis pacem para bellum")
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To: pandoraou812

Amen to that. I don’t know how these cops can maintain their composure.


10 posted on 06/15/2007 5:46:35 AM PDT by DonGrafico (Gowd demmit bub! You ain't from around heah ah ya?)
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To: DogByte6RER
she had 30 bruises on her body, her ribs, vertebrae and skull were fractured, leaving her paralyzed. She had blood in her diaper, her brain was bleeding, and physical evidence suggested she had been molested.

They are arguing over this POS's rights being violated? He shouldn't have the right to breathe if found guilty.
11 posted on 06/15/2007 5:49:20 AM PDT by kinoxi
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12 posted on 06/15/2007 5:56:27 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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Oh no...my idea of justice would get me into prison asap. lmaoooooo ~P~


13 posted on 06/15/2007 6:06:11 AM PDT by pandoraou812 ( zero tolerance to the will of Allah ...... dilligaf? with an efg.....)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

Amazing that it took 7 paragraphs before mention of what happened to the little girl. Even more amazing, there is no update on her status.

If the reporter was asked what his primary concern for this story should be, he’d probably say the little girl. His actions, and lack thereof, say differently though.

My heart goes out to that poor little girl. There is no level of hell deep enough for whoever did this to her.


14 posted on 06/15/2007 6:12:28 AM PDT by Personal Responsibility (Having a thing is not so pleasing as wanting. It is not logical, but often true.)
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To: DogByte6RER

See, now this situation brings me back to a thought I’ve had for a long time now, and that is that not all sex offenses are equal (I know, you all are saying well duh, HC). Let me explain.

Ya know, the 19-year old, who dates and has a “consensual” relationship with 16-year old is, and should be, still against the law. This is because a 16-year old is *not quite* an adult, no matter how much he/she thinks they are. Therefore, there still needs to be some type of enforcement/punishment, although I don’t think the 19-year-old should necessarily be required to register as a life-time sex offender (unless he/she is predatory).

Contrast that with this situation, where the trial should be in the morning, break for lunch, stage the public execution in the afternoon, then have a community dinner that evening. All this regardless of the perp’s citizenship. If he happens to be a citizen of another country, we can arrange to throw his worthless carcass over the border where it can be claimed by his next of kin if so desired.


15 posted on 06/15/2007 6:13:15 AM PDT by Hegemony Cricket (Don't mistake timid driving for defensive driving.)
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To: DogByte6RER
Sick and twisted. Adding insult to injury is the lawyer trying to use an "international treaty" to get this perv off the hook.

"Judge Simmons ruled against the motion to dismiss the case, and against the motion to suppress Chia-Duran’s statements to police."

Looks like it didn't work.

16 posted on 06/15/2007 6:16:50 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur (Save Fredericksburg. Support CVBT.)
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To: DogByte6RER

there is a special place in hell for this monster.


17 posted on 06/15/2007 6:22:08 AM PDT by zek157
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To: DogByte6RER

#1 Courts have ruled that POS foreign nationals do have to have their embassies/consulates notified upon arrest. This card has been played successfully in Texas murder trials. So be it

#2 But this type ruling is great for us because Mexico is claiming jurisdiction over its wayward criminals. Meaning this can be used to kill the anchor baby provisions of the 14th Amendment.


18 posted on 06/15/2007 6:22:30 AM PDT by dennisw (The fear of the Lord is the beginning of knowledge: but fools despise wisdom and instruction)
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To: DogByte6RER

UN Treaty of the Child sure will protect children. Not.

Where are all the feminazis when you need them.


19 posted on 06/15/2007 6:28:01 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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pandoraou812 for head of immigration!


20 posted on 06/15/2007 6:29:09 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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