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Spokesman for President Bush Posts on Free Republic About Immigration Bill
Thursday, June 14, 2007 | Kristinn

Posted on 06/14/2007 11:16:52 AM PDT by kristinn

A spokeman for the Bush administration sent an e-mail to Jim Robinson and myself confirming the authenticity of a post on Free Republic this afternoon regarding the immigration bill currently before the Senate as having been posted on behalf of the White House.

The spokesman, Nicholas Thompson, works for the White House Office of Strategic Initiatives. The Politico reported yesterday that Thompson and Kerrie Rushton, associate directors in the Office of Strategic Initiatives who work under Karl Rove, would be engaging the blogosphere on the immigration bill.

Thompson's post is on the thread titled Penalty Mitigation in the Immigration Reform Bill, a vanity posted by philman_36. Thompson posted at comment #53.

Thompson's e-mail to Free Republic included a brief introduction and the text of his posted comment:

Hi,

I just wanted to let you know that I just posted a response to the post "Penalty Mitigation in the Immigration Reform Bill."

The White House appreciates the opportunity to respond on Free Republic.

Response:
I would like to point out that the Secretary is authorized to reduce or mitigate penalities against employers who in good faith are trying to comply with the law. Certainly, we understand that not all employers knowingly hire illegal immigrants; this will remain the case, especially before the bill’s new secure documentation requirements are fully phased in. We do not seek to wrongly penalize honest employers who unknowingly hire illegal immigrants, therefore we reserve the right to reduce or mitigate their penalties if the employer can show good faith compliance in following the law.

For those employers who do knowingly hire illegal immigrants, please know that we intend to penalize these employers strongly, and the Administration has already stepped up these penalties in the last couple of years. For example, a 2005 program, “Operation Rollback,” assessed $15,000,000 in civil fines to employers, an amount greater than the sum of administrative fines collected in the previous eight years and was the largest worksite enforcement penalty in US history. In the first quarter of FY07, criminal and civil forfeitures have totaled $26,700,000 for employers.

As a reminder of what’s in the bill, fines for hiring an illegal worker are $5,000 maximum per illegal worker for the first offense, $10,000 maximum per illegal worker for the second, $25,000 maximum per illegal worker for the third , and $75,000 maximum per illegal worker for the fourth. In addition, the bill increases the maximum criminal penalty for a pattern or practice of unlawful hiring twenty-five-fold, from $3,000 to $75,000, and would impose a prison term of up to six months. This represents a significant increase in fines for employers who knowingly hire illegal immigrants.

Nicholas Thompson
White House Office of Strategic Initiatives


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To: mikeus_maximus; All

Would be nice to see contact with the White House done with the respect due the office.

This is not your personal bash-Bush thread.

How clever - a source from the President tries to talk with the people and, lo, the people take it as a personal opportunity to thrash the President of the United States.

And just how does that solve anything? How does that get any further communication with the powers that be?

And just how does that make the source even read the whole thread.


601 posted on 06/14/2007 2:42:10 PM PDT by ClancyJ
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To: Guenevere

check this out.


602 posted on 06/14/2007 2:43:53 PM PDT by floriduh voter (Terri's Legacy List Contact: 8mmmauser & REMEMBER TERRI IN CAMPAIGN 2008)
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To: Always Right

They will have absolutely no influence if this is going to be a thrash Bush thread.

Seems we should take the opportunity to respectively state our problems with the immigration bill.

Nobody, but nobody, is going to have the President of the United States read trash talk, insults, as that merely shows we have no class.


603 posted on 06/14/2007 2:44:13 PM PDT by ClancyJ
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To: kristinn
Mr. White House Man......we aimed high when we put heart, soul, energy, time and donations into President Bush's elections.

So high, in fact, that his betrayal of his own fellow Americans caused us to plunge from even higher heights face down on the cement.

So much was invested for little return on an issue that is virtually life and death for our culture as we know it.

I'm a lifelong Republican, an activist, a contributor, a former GOP elected official. The party was a great part of my life.

The party's over, my friend. This administration has helped bring it to a sorry end.

You White House officials and bureaucrats fully intend to push this down our throats. This "dialogue" with you on this thread is the same ploy used by liberals to distract and soothe the unwary. I trust a jungle cat more than I trust you Bush-shamnesty people and your "concensus building".

Nice try.

Leni

604 posted on 06/14/2007 2:45:08 PM PDT by MinuteGal (Don't give up the ship. Keep phoning & emailing. Remember, we lost the Alamo!)
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To: TomGuy

The prez just said “temporarily withdrawn” bill. THEY ARE DETERMINED TO RUIN INDEPENDENCE DAY! (ours, that is).


605 posted on 06/14/2007 2:46:10 PM PDT by floriduh voter (Terri's Legacy List Contact: 8mmmauser & REMEMBER TERRI IN CAMPAIGN 2008)
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To: tomnbeverly
You know Conservatives asking Bush to pass a Conservative filled (Border Wall) (Enforce the existing law) standard bill as part of immigration reform with a Democrat controlled Congress, is like ...

No, we asked him to secure the border when he had a Republican-controlled House AND Senate. He's the one that lost the GOP the '06 elections and is now stuck dealing with Democrats.

And he doesn't have to pass a single bill to do what the people want. The laws are already on the books. They just need to quit being ignored by TPTB.

The base in its attempt to hold Bush accountable allows nothing to get done about immigration in the present and if the GOP loses the WH in 08.. Well lets just say you can pretty much bet the Dem bill to “FIX” the Illegal problem is going to make the current one look like it is sponsored by Tom Tancredo.

Passing amnesty is much worse than doing nothing. Besides, nothing is necessary except to pass the laws we already have. And a Hillary amnesty isn't a sure thing.

The only time I've seen Republicans have backbones, other than under the Contract with America, is when they are standing up to a Democrat. They might actually do better with a Democratic in the WH than a Republican that is ruling like a Democrat.
606 posted on 06/14/2007 2:47:07 PM PDT by CottonBall
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To: tomnbeverly
Congress does not change laws that are working. If in fact Bush got this agenda passed it would be on the books and working as immigration reform. You suppose that America would back a Democrat congress changing laws on a whim. You are the one posting fallacy.

LOL - that's hilarious. You don't think that congress amends existing laws? What planet have you been on?

The democrats wouldn't do away with this law, they would just "enhance" it by increasing the family unification quotas or completely do away with the border enforcement benchmarks.

Once again - the democrats can alter this bill anyway they want when they are in total power. The only thing the passage of this law right now would do is to give them a foundation to build on.

607 posted on 06/14/2007 2:47:11 PM PDT by JeffAtlanta
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To: K-oneTexas
6) END THE ANCHOR BABY PROGRAM.

Good Luck repealing the 14th Amendment.

608 posted on 06/14/2007 2:47:19 PM PDT by hattend ("Courage is being scared to death and saddling up anyway." - John Wayne)
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To: GovernmentShrinker

Well it will not happen again if there is no ability to discuss with respect.

How ignorant do we have to appear? The President of the United States is seeking contact with the website and this just gives them a personal target - the President of the United States - to bring out the “glory” of their ability to trash Bush and proceed to make us all look like idiots.

Just a little respect for the site, for the chance to discuss with the White House and to intelligently and respectfully state our views.

How often does that chance come along?


609 posted on 06/14/2007 2:49:22 PM PDT by ClancyJ
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To: sageb1

Tony Snow’s Fox & Friends thread had over 8,000 views. I think that kicked this topic into high gear. Tony musta read that thread.


610 posted on 06/14/2007 2:50:25 PM PDT by floriduh voter (Terri's Legacy List Contact: 8mmmauser & REMEMBER TERRI IN CAMPAIGN 2008)
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To: MinuteGal
The party's over, my friend. This administration has helped bring it to a sorry end.

That's what I told the RNC caller last night that wanted $75. I told her I was done with the Republicans and am disgusted with the amnesty Bush is pushing through. Of course, she had her set speech on how the money is for the '08 elections and has nothing to do with Bush. I said that was too bad because I'm done with the party now as a whole and they better call my illegal neighbor Pedro for donations.
611 posted on 06/14/2007 2:50:36 PM PDT by CottonBall
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To: kristinn
Mr. President we (the base) have stood behind you in the WOT and Iraq while the rest of the world spits in your face. The whole premise for going to Iraq and putting the lives of our troops on the line was to, “fight them over there, so we don’t have to fight them over here”.

How dare you sit back and leave the borders wide open so any terrorist with a suitcase nuke can come across and reign down destruction on our country. What a slap in the face to the men and women who have died to keep us safe.

#2. What a slap in the face to all the law abiding citizens of this country. We are a nation of laws (at least we used to be). You seem to have forgotten that sir and are more than ready to reward criminal activity.

#3 What a slap in the face to all the taxpayers in this country. We sure as hell have not worked all of our life and dutifully paid our taxes so that millions of illegals can, presto-chango, become “legal” and suck off the government teat without ever contributing one dime. Meanwhile, grandpa retires after 50 years and gets the big finger from Washington as all that he’s paid in SS goes to his “new fellow Americans”.

So, Mr.President, if you really think we are going to enthusiastically get on board this train to hell, after you have slapped us in the face, I respectfully say to you, GET A CLUE!!!!

612 posted on 06/14/2007 2:51:03 PM PDT by Anti-Hillary (Anyone but Hitlery)
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To: ClancyJ
They will have absolutely no influence if this is going to be a thrash Bush thread.

Then the Mods better lock this thread. Because, as you've noticed, people are extremely angry with this Administration's trashing of us.

If we don't support this Amnesty Travesty, we're insulted.

We've called and written, and the President continues promoting this horrible idea like our voices are inconsequential.

We get this kind of treatment from the Dem leaders!

I understand your point, and agree. But Freepers are p!$$#d off and see this as an opportunity to vent. Try to be patient with us. 8^)

613 posted on 06/14/2007 2:51:53 PM PDT by airborne (Airborne - Ranger - Vietnam veteran! Duncan Hunter for President!)
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To: MinuteGal

Ok, you do not have to post then. Surely some other power will read your intelligent, well put comments to solve the problem.


614 posted on 06/14/2007 2:53:22 PM PDT by ClancyJ
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To: ClancyJ
Just a little respect for the site, for the chance to discuss with the White House and to intelligently and respectfully state our views.

How often does that chance come along?


Granted, I haven't read all the 600+ posts, but I see people doing exactly what you requested. People are posting their opinions respectfully, using facts and data to back them up.

And speaking of respect, how respectful of US was it for the President to tell Senators to ignore their irate constituents?
615 posted on 06/14/2007 2:53:23 PM PDT by CottonBall
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To: theDentist

I think they want to jot down our screen names for future reference.... Maybe this is a homeland security excercise.


616 posted on 06/14/2007 2:53:43 PM PDT by floriduh voter (Terri's Legacy List Contact: 8mmmauser & REMEMBER TERRI IN CAMPAIGN 2008)
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To: TaxxMann

Hasn’t McCain already told us the fence is not going to be built?


617 posted on 06/14/2007 2:53:51 PM PDT by maxter
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To: CottonBall

LOL.

Good one.


618 posted on 06/14/2007 2:54:56 PM PDT by JRochelle
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To: b9

Yep... as is his cohort Kerrie Ruston (also out on the net promoting this garbage).

I want to know if this Nicholas Thompson is the same as the New America Foundation Nicholas Thompson.
(hint to Nick... we don’t WANT a New America!)


619 posted on 06/14/2007 2:55:02 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: kristinn

So the government is penalizing people for not doing the government’s work right when the government can’t do it right. How does an employer verify the immigration status of an employee? The govermnent doesn’t provide any way to do so, but penalizes employers for not complying with something that the government has made it impossible to do.


620 posted on 06/14/2007 2:56:36 PM PDT by Leftism is Mentally Deranged (why do we need government when it can't even keep us safe?)
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