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Venezuela's Chavez to finalise Russian submarines deal
www.breitbart.com ^ | Jun 14, 2007 | AP

Posted on 06/14/2007 7:59:09 AM PDT by Freeport

Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez is expected to finalise a deal on buying up to nine Russian submarines during a visit here later this month, a Russian newspaper reported on Thursday. Caracas has already ordered five 636-type diesel submarines and four of a new model of diesel submarine, the 677E Amur, the Kommersant broadsheet said, quoting unnamed sources in the ship-building and arms export sectors.

Chavez may have to settle for the older 636 submarines for the time being as the new 677E Amur has not yet been presented to Russia's own navy, a source at the arms export agency Rosoboronexport said.

"To start off with they were insisting on only the Amurs but were then persuaded to take the 636 vessels," the source told Kommersant.

The paper said Chavez planned to visit Russia on June 29, less than a year after a visit last July, the paper said.

If it goes ahead, the deal is likely to become a "new irritant in relations between Moscow and Washington," the paper commented.

Venezuela has become a major buyer of Russian arms in recent years, angering the United States, which worries about Chavez's anti-American tone.

Since 2005 Caracas has spent 3.4 billion dollars (2.6 billion euros) on arms from Russia, including 24 fighter planes, 35 military helicopters, air defence systems and 100,000 kalashnikov rifles, the paper said.

Venezuela wants the submarines in order to overcome a possible US naval blockade, the paper said.

The deal "could become a new irritant in relations between Moscow and Washington," Kommersant said.

Between 2004 and 2006 Russia supplied eight of the 636 submarines to China and is now building two such submarines for Algeria, Kommersant added.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: chaves; submarines; venezuela
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So how long would it take for our surface Navy to put everything he has, subs too, on the bottom? One day? Half a day?

I figure the LAs would finish off everything he has in a week by themselves...

1 posted on 06/14/2007 7:59:13 AM PDT by Freeport
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To: Freeport

How do these nut cases become leaders of countries?


2 posted on 06/14/2007 8:01:36 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heros have always been cowboys--Reagan and Bush)
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To: Freeport

How do these nut cases become leaders of countries?


3 posted on 06/14/2007 8:01:38 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heros have always been cowboys--Reagan and Bush)
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I was thinking the same thing, does he think a half dozen diesel subs would last two days against our hunter killers were we to blockade them?


4 posted on 06/14/2007 8:01:38 AM PDT by N3WBI3 (Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak....)
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Venezuela wants the submarines in order to overcome a possible US naval blockade, the paper said.

And so they might for half an hour minute or so.

5 posted on 06/14/2007 8:02:12 AM PDT by Smedley (It's a sad day for American capitalism when a man can't fly a midget on a kite over Central Park)
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To: Freeport
We’re underestimating this buffoon, Chavez.
6 posted on 06/14/2007 8:04:14 AM PDT by cll (Carthage must be destroyed)
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To: Freeport

For detailed information on Russia’s submarine fleet go here: http://www.nti.org/db/submarines/russia/


7 posted on 06/14/2007 8:05:24 AM PDT by gpapa
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Would this be Russia’s answer to us putting parts of our missile defense in Poland and Czech?


8 posted on 06/14/2007 8:05:47 AM PDT by Eagle of Liberty (The United States of America is the only country strong enough to go it alone.)
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I say as soon as the check clears, put them on the bottom.


9 posted on 06/14/2007 8:07:17 AM PDT by Bluegrass Federalist
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To: Kerretarded
No, just cash... And they know the diesels are no match for our nuke boats anyway...
10 posted on 06/14/2007 8:07:42 AM PDT by Freeport
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they could go after oil tankers with them if chavez got pissed enough, couldnt they?


11 posted on 06/14/2007 8:09:28 AM PDT by Armedanddangerous (Master of Sinanju (emeritus))
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Talk about piswasting away money! This guy is a loon who is squandering the public treasury due to his delusional thinking.
12 posted on 06/14/2007 8:09:56 AM PDT by Obadiah
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So, exactly who is going to crew these nine subs? Russian naval mercenaries?

Just curious...

13 posted on 06/14/2007 8:10:30 AM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner ("Si vis pacem para bellum")
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To: Kerretarded

No. The radars are our answer to the Kalashnikov factory going in to Venz.


14 posted on 06/14/2007 8:13:56 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (BTUs are my Beat.)
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To: Freeport

IIRC these boats use Air-Indepenent Propulsion and are QUIETER than our nukes.
That said, we train more and harder than anybody, except maybe the Brits. That is what make our subs dangerous.


15 posted on 06/14/2007 8:14:35 AM PDT by Little Ray (Rudy Guiliani: If his wives can't trust him, why should we?)
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Too bad they aren’t giving him the most sophisticated model. It ought to be pretty easy to pack the crew with spies.


16 posted on 06/14/2007 8:14:41 AM PDT by Brilliant
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Sure... And how many of his customers are going to want the US to turn him into an incandescent bulb after that?

He’d be slitting his own throat and his navy would still be on the bottom as well and a multinational invasion fleet on the way.

17 posted on 06/14/2007 8:33:35 AM PDT by Freeport
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To: Little Ray

And we hunt them by looking for the hole in the water....

:-)


18 posted on 06/14/2007 8:35:14 AM PDT by Freeport
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To: gpapa

Highly informative link.Thanx.


19 posted on 06/14/2007 9:34:57 AM PDT by Thombo2
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To: Freeport

Nine submarines=Nine Navy Crosses just waiting to happen.


20 posted on 06/14/2007 9:38:53 AM PDT by paddles
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