Posted on 06/14/2007 6:16:09 AM PDT by jacknhoo
Hillary and Porn By Sarah Rode June 13, 2007
In Hillary Clinton’s America, pornography would be legal, accessible and protected. That’s the way it was while her husband was president, according to a woman who would know.
Jenna Jameson is a multi-millionaire feminist businesswoman who has endorsed Hillary because under the Clinton administration her industry flourished. She is very critical of President Bush because his administration has not been kind to her line of work — the production and sale of pornography. Despite branching out into some mainstream projects, Miss Jameson is still considered one of the most famous porn stars around. She said in a recent interview, “The Clinton administration was the best years for the adult industry, and I wish that Clinton would run again.” I suppose she would know.
President Bush has been routinely critiqued for not doing enough to crack down on obscenity. According to Miss Jameson, however, it has been an uphill battle for her pornographic business:
When Republicans are in office, the problem is, a lot of times they try to put their crosshairs on the adult industry, to make a point. I look forward to another Democrat being in office. It just makes the climate so much better for us … and I think that getting Bush out of office is the most important thing right now.
If Attorney General Gonzales’ lenient policies have been harsh on the adult industry, one can only imagine how tolerant Hillary Clinton’s administration would be of spreading pornography throughout our country.
Former President Clinton ignored the issue of obscenity, and it is safe to assume that Senator Clinton would do the same. According to an article in the Baltimore Sun, “Obscenity cases came to a standstill under Janet Reno, President Bill Clinton's attorney general … The ensuing years saw an explosion of porn, so much so that critics say that Americans’ tolerance for sexually explicit material rivals that of Europeans.”
Fortunately, under the Bush administration, Attorney General John Ashcroft renewed the fight against obscenity, making the prosecution of obscenity a priority under his leadership. He stated in a speech in 2002, “Obscenity invades our homes persistently through the mail, telephone, VCR, cable TV and now the Internet. This multimillion dollar industry has strewn its victims from coast to coast.” Although he fought against the proliferation of pornography in America, his successor has been silent on the issue, just like Clinton’s attorney general.
It is unfortunate and inconsistent that Hillary and her “feminist” endorsers not only tolerate but also promote pornography. If they were true feminists, they would reject the objectification of women. It is interesting that in their fight to liberate women, they have instead endorsed the image of women as sexual objects. Pornography exploits women’s sexuality for money. That’s liberating?
They are equally dangerous.
I don’t particularly care if the person who hates freedom “has a strong moral center” - they still hate freedom.
Should porn be a federal or state issue?
I vote state issue.
Should porn be a federal or state issue?
That depends on whom it is solicited to. The underage - federal.
Oh, OK, the TV Guide channel, now it makes sense.
THAT is something they don’t have to market in the checkout aisle at the A&P-—I can just see it there in the upper right hand corner-— Exclusive interview with Porn Icon Jenna Jameson, while on the cover is Kevin James from “The King of Queens”.
Protesting porn is not the same as banning porn.
Liberals are more apt to ban legitimate protest.
Amy Sedaris, is that you? It must be, you sound like her.
Loved your Hostess book-—”I Like You: Hospitality under the Influence”. But, to get serious for a moment, this Jenna phenomenon I’ve seen before. In every new Porn “epoch” it seems, some “spokesman” makes the rounds on behalf of the industry, and gets some face- or air-time to expound in a “deep-think” kind of way about what direction they hope porn will take. I remember once seeing Linda “Deep Throat” Lovelace “gettin’ serious” on a talk-show” about “the marriage of Art and Pornography”.
These things never seem to work, especially NOT in the age of Clinton, contrary to what a brain like Jenna thinks.
Porn, instead, flourishes when there’s a general mindset opposing it, which drives it underground or into some little corner that keeps getting dirtier. Porn has been EXACTLY IN THAT PLACE IN THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS, but entrepreneurs like Jenna are too dumb to know it, because Jenna is now in a DIFFERENT MARKETPLACE.Why is it that she’s complaining about not flourishing, when literally hundreds of new porn films are made every day and magazines fill every newstand worthy of its name? Because Jenna’s niche in Porn holds no interest to people who pay for porn, and consider themselves connoisseurs of it.
Nope, it matters not. This should be a state issue.
Of course there are those who would use the ICC to regulate it but then one can improperly use the ICC for almost anything.
Then you should be votsupporting Pelosi she loves to indoctrinate children.
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Hillary and porn should NEVER be mentioned in the same breath.
How is porn protected “speech” under the First Amendment? Is that what the founders intended? Do explain.
Yes it is.
Free speech means just that.
Free speech is not always what you want to see/hear. It’s stuff you don’t like as well.
Unless you want someone deciding for you what you can see/hear, you should support free speech ... even speech you don’t like.
But remember YOUR free speech is to speak out against speech you don’t like. So you’re free to speak out against porn, organize boycotts of those who produce/sell/distribute it, etc. Don’t ask the government to do it for you ... do it yourself.
Free speech counters free speech .... that is what the Founders intended.
You didn’t answer my question. How does recording yourself having sex and selling it qualify as “speech” under the First Amendment? Sure, my right to protest again things, say what I want in the press, etc, is all speech. But at the time of the Constitution, pornography was outlawed as obscene and not considered “speech” for First Amendment purposes.
All forms of communication/expression are “speech”.
Art is speech, even vile disgusting ‘art’.
Music is speech even violent rap ‘music’.
KKK marching in parades is speech
Violence in movies is speech
Lots of things that I detest are still speech and should be protected by the 1st Ammendment.
Lots of things were going on at the time of the Constitution. For example slavery .... just to name one. Should we go back to all the standards of the day?
The intent of the 1st Ammendment is clear and was written about extensively by the Founders ... namely that free speech counters free speech ... and should be free of government restraint. The caveat is that speech is not without consquences from outside the government (a fact many in Hollywood don’t understand ... see the Dixie Chicks).
You should be free to express any vile thing you want without government restraint. However, how your peers choose to react to your speech is something you’ll be on your own with. That is the unparallel beauty of the 1st Ammendment.
The best way to deal with porn is MORE free speech, not less. For example, find out who those are who are involved in creating and distributing porn and expose them. Shout out their names and what they do for a living in public. Hold signs naming the pornographers outside their children’s school, outside their mother’s home, outside their sister’s kid’s school .... THAT is free speech countering free speech.
Organize a boycott of companies who sell porn in their stores. THAT is free speech countering free speech.
Organize a boycott of those funding porn operations. (Lots of mainstream companies are involved in the making/distributing of porn).
Free speech is a right and IMO a duty of citizens to excercise ... use it to protest what you don’t like.
Don’t ask the government to do what citizens should be doing. If you do, you’ll soon find the government censoring what YOU can say ... how YOU can protest (see proposed hate crimes laws for saying anything negative about homosexuality).
Be careful what you wish for.
Under your definition, any act is “speech.” The purpose of the 1st Amendment was to protect political and religious speech, not to protect people video-taping themselves having sex and selling the recording. The liberals on the Supreme Court have declared that pornography is “speech” and thus gets the protection of the First Amendment. They have successfully changed the discourse on the First Amendment that even purported conservatives, like yourself, are convinced that it is speech.
You still haven’t explained when pornography became “speech” under the Constitution. And to answer your question, yes, we should employ the standards “of the day” (when the Constitution was adopted). That’s the correct way to interpret the Constitution. Slavery is now explicitly illegal because a constitutional amendment. If you want to pass a constitutional amendment declaring pornography protected speech, then it would deserve the kind of protection you are insisting it should receive.
I thought the title was going to lead me to a story about Hillary finding Bill’s stash of homemade videos!
Free speech is under attack and your position is a big reason why.
Everyone and his dog is going to have a difinition of what does and does not constitute “speech” protected under 1A.
You really need to think this through more carefully.
You really need to rethink your position on constitutional interpretation. You sound more like Ruth Bader than anyone else on the Court.
She looks like Lauren Holly and a Barbie doll were guesting on Star Trek and had some sort of horrible transporter accident.
Hmmm...you left the word “child” out of your post.
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