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Repeal Second Amendment, Analyst Advises
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Posted on 06/12/2007 4:23:30 AM PDT by Sub-Driver

Repeal Second Amendment, Analyst Advises By Nathan Burchfiel CNSNews.com Staff Writer June 12, 2007

(CNSNews.com) - The Second Amendment guarantees the right of an individual to own guns and for that reason should be repealed, according to a legal affairs analyst who opposes gun ownership.

"The Second Amendment is one of the clearest statements of right in the Constitution," Benjamin Wittes, a guest scholar at the center-left Brookings Institution, acknowledged in a discussion Monday. "We've had decades of sort of intellectual gymnastics to try to make those words not mean what they say."

Wittes, who said he has "no particular enthusiasm for the idea of a gun culture," said that rather than try to limit gun ownership through regulation that potentially violates the Second Amendment, opponents of gun ownership should set their sights on repealing the amendment altogether.

"Rather than debating the meaning of the Second Amendment, I think the appropriate debate is whether we want a Second Amendment," Wittes said. He conceded, however, that the political likelihood of getting the amendment repealed is "pretty limited."

Wittes said the Second Amendment guarantee of the right to bear arms meant more when it was crafted more than 200 years ago than it does today. Modern society is "much more ambivalent than they [the founders] were about whether gun ownership really is fundamental to liberty," he said.

"One of the things that they believed was that the right of states to organize militias, and therefore individuals to be armed, was necessary to protect the liberty of those states against the federal government," Wittes said. "This is something we don't really believe as a society anymore."

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1 posted on 06/12/2007 4:23:31 AM PDT by Sub-Driver
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To: Sub-Driver

Believe it or not, this is the best for pro-gun people. If they try to repeal it, they’ll obviously fail.

Maybe if they take his advice and stop trying to make incremental laws and such and repeal the ones that we have now, things will get a lot better.


2 posted on 06/12/2007 4:25:34 AM PDT by Tolsti
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To: Sub-Driver

Yeah like that’s really gonna happen.


3 posted on 06/12/2007 4:25:52 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur (Save Fredericksburg. Support CVBT.)
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To: Sub-Driver

What is this guy smoking?


4 posted on 06/12/2007 4:26:19 AM PDT by Gabz
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To: Sub-Driver
"One of the things that they believed was that the right of states to organize militias, and therefore individuals to be armed, was necessary to protect the liberty of those states against the federal government," Wittes said. "This is something we don't really believe as a society anymore."

What society is he talking about? The leftist, socialist big daddy government society?

5 posted on 06/12/2007 4:27:16 AM PDT by Hazcat (Live to party, work to afford it.)
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To: Gabz
What is this guy smoking?

He's just one of those people who has to be first in line, if you catch my drift.. :-)

6 posted on 06/12/2007 4:28:50 AM PDT by Gorzaloon (Global Warming: A New Kind Of Scientology for the Rest Of Us.)
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To: Sub-Driver

In your face Liberalism. Hillary wants to take your stuff and give it to others she thinks want it and can better use it — And now, no longer is the public safety “if it saves one life” ruse even tried anymore.

Democrats, raise taxes, fund socialism and gun control. I am sure you can figure out how the three parts connect together.


7 posted on 06/12/2007 4:29:01 AM PDT by Tarpon
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To: Sub-Driver
according to a legal affairs analyst who opposes gun ownership.

Well, I gotta say....it's refreshing to see somebody tell you exactly where they stand & how they feel. Even though I totally disagree.

8 posted on 06/12/2007 4:29:23 AM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: Sub-Driver
Better idea. Instead of repealing the Second Amendment (which includes the right of self-defense) we should simply figure out how to deport this Wittes guy to some country where people have no Second Amendment rights.

Make him happy. Make us rest easier.

After all, sometimes it's necessary for a single individual to pay a steep price so that others may have freedom and liberty, and this is a case where I think Wittes is that guy!

9 posted on 06/12/2007 4:31:12 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Sub-Driver
"One of the things that they believed was that the right of states to organize militias, and therefore individuals to be armed, was necessary to protect the liberty of those states against the federal government," Wittes said.

"This is something we don't really believe as a society anymore."

Oh yeah mr 'guest scholar'. I'll bet ya a shiny new Nickel otherwise.

10 posted on 06/12/2007 4:31:21 AM PDT by Condor51 (Rudy makes John Kerry look like a Right Wing 'Gun Nut' Extremist)
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To: Hazcat
What society is he talking about?

The imaginary one.

The other side in the next civil war.

11 posted on 06/12/2007 4:32:29 AM PDT by Jim Noble (We don't need to know what Cho thought. We need to know what Librescu thought.)
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To: Sub-Driver

Actually, it’s refreshing to hear a leftist just come out and say they just don’t believe in the Constitution and the America of the Founding Fathers.

I am so sick of these Pelosi types that come out and insist they want “America’s original vision” and then try to gut everything we ever believed.

Scary, though.


12 posted on 06/12/2007 4:33:05 AM PDT by I still care ("Remember... for it is the doom of men that they forget" - Merlin, from Excalibur)
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To: Gorzaloon
He's just one of those people who has to be first in line, if you catch my drift.. :-)

The line, I'm afraid, will be rather long.

13 posted on 06/12/2007 4:34:00 AM PDT by Jim Noble (We don't need to know what Cho thought. We need to know what Librescu thought.)
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To: Sub-Driver

Never heard of this guy,and why do we give a crap what he thinks?

He should go crap in his hat.

The second amendment is one of the things that keeps our own government in control,and now with our politicians seemingly not caring what the will of the people is any more we may need it now worse than ever.


14 posted on 06/12/2007 4:34:20 AM PDT by sgtbono2002 (I'm gonna vote for Fred. John Bolton for VP.)
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To: Sub-Driver

Hell... let’s just get rid of that pesky Constitution... didn’t the Founders understand that hildebeast was coming? (extreme sarcasm)

If they try to abolish something so important that the Founding Fathers felt it neccessary to put it in the Constitution, right behind the Freedom of Speech and Assembly... a War will break out in the streets of America... a REAL CIVIL WAR!

Can we sue these people for trying to supress our Constitutional rights? I’ll bet the lawsuits would fly at the first hint of repealing the FIRST AMENDMENT!

LLS


15 posted on 06/12/2007 4:34:40 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Support America, Kill terrorists, Destroy dims!)
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To: Sub-Driver
I know there are many who would also repeal the whole Bill of Rights if they had the opportunity and even bring in ex-post facto laws where you can get charged for offense even though the offense didn't exist at the time you committed it.

The socialist set would like to change our laws from where you can do anything unless specified by law and the government has to get permission to do something (power reserved to the people unless specified as mentioned in the US Constitution) to the gov't can do anything and the people has to seek permission unless otherwise specified.

It is like that in the corporate world. I worked for a manager who was a jerk. It almost got to the point that I had to ask permission to spend more than a minute in the bathroom !
16 posted on 06/12/2007 4:34:43 AM PDT by CORedneck
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To: harpseal; TexasCowboy; AAABEST; Travis McGee; Squantos; Shooter 2.5; wku man; SLB; ...
"opponents of gun ownership should set their sights on repealing the amendment altogether."

Not a good idea; a Hail-Mary play like this would be so in-your-face that even the freedom-freeloaders might finally get off their collective butts and resist.

"Repeal the Second Amendment", eh? How about repealing these worms' birth certificates instead?

Click the Gadsden flag for pro-gun resources!

17 posted on 06/12/2007 4:34:58 AM PDT by Joe Brower (Sheep have three speeds: "graze", "stampede" and "cower".)
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To: Sub-Driver

Bring it on.

Repeal would fail miserably.

I agree with the analysis that the Second Amendment is a clear statement and that the only way to ban gun ownership is to repeal it. But the notion that repeal could happen in this country could only be entertained by somebody who has led a very, very sheltered life.


18 posted on 06/12/2007 4:36:29 AM PDT by jebeier (Never ascribe to malice what can be adequately explained by stupidity. But is stupidity sufficient?)
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To: Hazcat

Sorry... there are no Government rights listed in the Amendments. They only limit government... not empower it. You cannot argue that only one governmental right exists in these Amendments. It has already been ruled so by the Federal Courts and no doubt the SCOTUS will uphold that decision.

LLS


19 posted on 06/12/2007 4:36:52 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Support America, Kill terrorists, Destroy dims!)
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To: Puppage

I agree. The guy at least has an intellectual honesty. Opponents of gun ownership HAVE tried to twist and turn and play fast and loose with the second amendment. But the simple fact is it DOES mean exactly that everyone can (and indeed should) own firearms. It is, frankly, intellectually dishonest to try and say otherwise. Therefore, if you think the general public should not be armed, then campaigning to end the second amendment is the only honorable choice you have.

As to whether he is right or not, well that is a separate issue which is not the thrust of this particular article.


20 posted on 06/12/2007 4:39:40 AM PDT by Vanders9
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