Posted on 06/12/2007 3:22:43 AM PDT by Ultra Sonic 007
Tony Snow is about to appear live on FOX & Friends on FOX News. The subject is Bush's push for immigration "reform".
We’ve got from probably Fri towards the end of the month before we can expect a vote. They’ll get froggy if they think the votes are there.
Yeah! There it is...and beer for my horses :) Willy and toby
Been fun...I’m out for the eve’! See ya tomorrow!
“Fourteenth Amendment - “Equal Protection” challenge.”
A sort of corollary question is, if Equal Protection doesn’t apply, what stops citizens from using illegals as proxy shields?
If your IRS bill is to big, claim the income was to your gardener Jose and he now has immunity. Foist a workplace violation on an illegal, have him apply for a zvisa, and voila, problem gone.
Weve got from probably Fri towards the end of the month before we can expect a vote. Theyll get froggy if they think the votes are there.
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HO’HAY et al have tipped their hand,,,”THEY” have tipped their hand,,,;0)
Niters...;0)
Good morning - He never answered me anyway CM - pfffft
WB don’t drink kool aid :)
(I believe the supporters of this bill took careful note of Bill Clintons promise not to raise taxes, which was conveniently explained away after he discovered the magnitude of the deficit.
Too true, and I believe the POTUS took careful note of his Dad's failure to gain a second term with his "no new taxes" pledge and waited to move on this in his second term so that his "this isn't amnesty" wouldn't be seen in the same vein.
That link goes to a bill from May 15, 2006. It has nothing to do with what is on the floor now.
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And if she is, maybe she’s not the only one :-)
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Meaning what?
The point was that for some, the draft bill could have been made into something that they could support.
You’ve indicated that you dislike it to the point that nothing could have been used in good legislation. That’s fine. I have said several times on the Thread that fighting the good fight but doing so honorably is the way through it, but it’s not realistic to have an enforcement only bill.
Moose4 had presented an option to separate enforcement and tell Congress that they’d have to show the voters first, which is one way past this hurdle. It does risk what happens in the next Congress and with the next President.
It’s probably not going to come up again in this Congress. I don’t think that Sen Kennedy will want to make concessions for more Republican support.
He had said before that he doesn’t believe it’s realistic to arrest and deport 12 million people. You don’t agree with him, but that’s the way it is.
The point is that no one wanted the prior bill in part because Ted Kennedy would support it. Fine, but that was a better chance to get what you wanted than we had.
The good news if you want to see it that way is that the chances of it making it in this Congress are slim. It’s possible, but not likely.
The risk is what would happen in the next Congress and the next President.
A script would be a harder time to work. Some financial systems are on newer technology, so a Unix script could work. Others are on a variety of older technologies and there are some that have several different applications for the same institution. I am not trying to be snarky, I am telling you what I know.
I agree that sometimes gridlock is better.
I don’t disagree with that, but I don’t think it’s realistic to expect enforcement unless there’s a carrot. Moose4 had a good idea and that was to say, you want an immigration bill? Alright, but before we talk about that we need you to prove to us that you will enforce the laws because we aren’t happy with the results.
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