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Tony Snow: LIVE on Fox and Friends (Subject: Bush's Immigration Push)
FOX & Friends

Posted on 06/12/2007 3:22:43 AM PDT by Ultra Sonic 007

Tony Snow is about to appear live on FOX & Friends on FOX News. The subject is Bush's push for immigration "reform".


TOPICS: Breaking News
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; borders; bush; ice; illegalaliens; illegals; immigrantlist; immigration; scaretactics; sellout; snowjob; snowman; vampirebill; whitewash
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To: skeeter

Where’s the insult? Was there not outrage over the prior bill?


541 posted on 06/12/2007 5:23:15 PM PDT by saveliberty (Prayer blizzard for Tony and Jill Snow and their family.)
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To: OldArmy52

As I said earlier, cutting off government programs would do a lot to make this problem more manageable.


542 posted on 06/12/2007 5:24:58 PM PDT by saveliberty (Prayer blizzard for Tony and Jill Snow and their family.)
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To: saveliberty; taxed2death
How would you find the money they send? Unless they are doing wire transfers

Hmmmm... Those of us who with an illegal alien population in or near our communities also have dozens of remesadoras (remittance agencies) at every strip mall.

More than $20 billion was remitted to Mexico last year, $62 billion to all of Latin America and the Caribbean, and most of that's from America. Remittances to Mexico are predicted to be the number one source of revenue this year, exceeding that of Pemex (the state owned oil company).

The Treasury Department was supposed to complete a computer system to monitor remittance shops at the end of this year, but (surprise!) it won't done for another three years.

543 posted on 06/12/2007 5:28:28 PM PDT by angkor
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To: saveliberty

And my wife and all her family are legal immigrants. Consequently, they don’t get the freebies and had to pass health screening as well. And the process took years and years (like 10 yrs...don’t need all them legals when we are flooded with illegals).

Illegals get freebies and bring in diseases, unlike legals.

Oh wait, with the Kennedy/Bush Amnesty, there would be a background check. With a 1 day suspense which is impossible to meet. With a shall issue requirement if the 1 day background check is not completed by then.

I can understand the Dems pushing this. But Bush? Clearly he has been replaced with a Pod Person, to be for such a garbage bill.


544 posted on 06/12/2007 5:28:34 PM PDT by OldArmy52 (Bush's Legacy: 100 million new Dem voters in next 20 yrs via the 2007 Amnesty Act.)
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To: saveliberty
the right didn’t present itself well.

When was it that "the right didn’t present itself well"?

545 posted on 06/12/2007 5:30:13 PM PDT by angkor
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To: saveliberty
Along with that, there’s at least one full thread devoted to Bush’s impeachment not at the Daily Kos or the usual Nutroot hangouts … but the Free Republic. This is insanity.

No, insanity is, after 5 years of war, our own republican...twice elected President, refuses to control our borders, praises mexican workers and denigrates American workers and after ....seeing clearly that most of this country is against amnesty for 12 million invaders....decides to try and pass an amnesty AGAIN!

Cheney in a wheelchair is better than Bush on a horse.

546 posted on 06/12/2007 5:30:21 PM PDT by TomasUSMC ( FIGHT LIKE WW2, FINISH LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM)
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To: saveliberty
It is unrealistic to anticipate enforcement only legislation in this session of Congress.

No need for it. The current law is that it's a felony to employ illegal aliens.

547 posted on 06/12/2007 5:31:53 PM PDT by angkor
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To: saveliberty
Proponents behaved badly, as did opponents.

Provide details.

548 posted on 06/12/2007 5:33:28 PM PDT by angkor
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To: saveliberty

“How would you find the money they send?”

All electronic money transfers are traceable by both point of origin as well as destination....routing numbers...etc

Western Union, Bank transfers.... that is the easy part.


549 posted on 06/12/2007 5:34:22 PM PDT by taxed2death (A few billion here, a few trillion there...we're all friends right?)
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To: angkor

I don’t question the volume and you could go after remittance agencies (noting that the governmental commitment was made) but I have to believe that it may be harder to trace because there are so many ways to get money out of the country.

Apart from the more conventional methods, an easy way would be to open up an account in the US and process direct withdrawals (by other family members) from that institution in a foreign office.

There are many ways that they can get money out.


550 posted on 06/12/2007 5:38:37 PM PDT by saveliberty (Prayer blizzard for Tony and Jill Snow and their family.)
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To: angkor

Ouch...and good point!


551 posted on 06/12/2007 5:41:12 PM PDT by jedward (Mission '08 - Take back the House & Senate. No Negotiations...No Prisoners.)
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To: gpapa

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552 posted on 06/12/2007 5:42:44 PM PDT by TomasUSMC ( FIGHT LIKE WW2, FINISH LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM)
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To: angkor
In Sister Toldjah's piece, here's a paragraph:

What I despised, deplored, and was disgusted by throughout all this was the way conservatives treated each other as it related to disagreements over this issue. There were strong arguments for and against this bill, but lost in all that was the need to “one up” the opposition, whether it was Senator Graham foolishly accusing the bill’s opponents of being “bigots”, the President wrongly questioning the patriotism of conservative critics or people like Tom Tancredo and others like him claiming that anyone who didn’t oppose every aspect of this bill “had to be” a proponent of “open borders” and “shamnesty” and were, essentially, “traitors” to their country for “not wanting to secure its borders.” Incidentally, Tom Tancredo is a guy I do not respect, considering he’s not just against illegal immigration, but he’s against legal immigration as well.1 Tancredo is popular with many on the anti-immigration bill side, and I hope to see more denounciations of his suggestion in the immediate future. Of course, I have to wonder how many Tancredo supporters agree with that sentiment, especially since he’s been expressing it for a few years now and has maintained his popularity amongst staunch immigration bill opponents. Oh, and let’s not forget the calls for impeachment from Michael Savage and Pat Buchanan, either. Along with that, there’s at least one full thread devoted to Bush’s impeachment not at the Daily Kos or the usual Nutroot hangouts … but the Free Republic. This is insanity.

553 posted on 06/12/2007 5:43:40 PM PDT by saveliberty (Prayer blizzard for Tony and Jill Snow and their family.)
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To: saveliberty; CharlesWayneCT
if you go and argue for a good bill and argue vigorously, that’s great. That’s not what happened and the point is whether we get a do over.

Nope, what happened was that Harry Reid attempted to ramrod the bill to a vote (it hadn't even been printed yet) over two business days, one recess day, and one weekend. A draft of the bill in non-legislatiev language was finally made available to members on Friday night.

STo sum up, the bill was announced on a Tuesday evening, and Reid wanted a vote on the following Monday night or Tuesday morning.

There was little need to start "arguing a good bill" because there was no printed bill to work from, it was unknown what it contained, and Harry Reid was stating that it would be at least two weeks (after his proposed vote) that the bill would be made available outside of the Senate.

Seems to me that's a significant violation of Senate comity and protocol.

Oh yeah, the bill never went though any committe hearing.

554 posted on 06/12/2007 5:45:16 PM PDT by angkor
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To: WaterWheeler
I want all the illegals to leave. Now. But I don’t see how we can export them without causing anarchy in the streets.

So in another words, if 30 million Americans decided they were not going to allow their taxes to pay for this flood of lawlessness, there is no way the government could go after or round up 30 million tax payers?

555 posted on 06/12/2007 5:45:26 PM PDT by dragnet2
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To: taxed2death

Sure, but I can tell you that the volume is high and you have to know what you want to find.

It’s also true that if you don’t catch it immediately, you have a slim chance of recalling the money.


556 posted on 06/12/2007 5:45:28 PM PDT by saveliberty (Prayer blizzard for Tony and Jill Snow and their family.)
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To: angkor

Amid accusations that one group of us didn’t want what’s best for the country and another that called the first group traitors.


557 posted on 06/12/2007 5:47:19 PM PDT by saveliberty (Prayer blizzard for Tony and Jill Snow and their family.)
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To: angkor

Good night, angkor. Thanks for the good discussion.

Cheers,

sl


558 posted on 06/12/2007 5:49:23 PM PDT by saveliberty (Prayer blizzard for Tony and Jill Snow and their family.)
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To: saveliberty

Sister Toldjah sounds like a whiner. Maybe it’s just me.


559 posted on 06/12/2007 5:52:06 PM PDT by jedward (Mission '08 - Take back the House & Senate. No Negotiations...No Prisoners.)
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To: jedward
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560 posted on 06/12/2007 5:52:26 PM PDT by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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