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Oradour-sur-Glane - June 10, 1944 Massacre at Oradour-sur-Glane
Spartacus School UK ^ | June 10, 1944

Posted on 06/11/2007 7:10:13 PM PDT by bd476

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The New York Times

CHAPTER ONE

Martyred Village

Commemorating the 1944 Massacre at Oradour-sur-Glane


By SARAH FARMER

University of California Press


...These 120 soldiers were members of the Der Fuerhrer regiment of the Waffen SS tank division Das Reich, which had been sent toward Limoges a few days before to fight the Resistance. As soldiers went from house to house, the Germans sent the town crier...to call the population to assemble in the central marketplace.

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The SS soldiers moved quickly through town, hunting people out of their houses... driving them toward the market square.

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At about three o'clock, the soldiers separated the women and children from the crowd, herded them to the church, and shut them in.

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While the men stood in the barn... an SS solider set up a machine gun on a tripod. Other soldiers stood guard... Then, from outside, came the sound of a detonation: the signal to fire... bullets mowed down the Frenchmen.

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The Germans then covered the bodies with straw, kindling, and phosphorous and set fire to the building. The six who survived had been standing near the front of the group; they were protected by the bodies that fell on them.

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While the Germans were killing the men of Oradour, the women had been locked in the church...two soldiers came in and placed a large chest on the altar... retreated, laying out a long fuse, which they lit before shutting the door...the chest exploded, releasing clouds of suffocating smoke... blowing out some of the church windows... the soldiers opened the door and sprayed the group with gunfire. They piled flammable material on some of the bodies, set a bonfire with the church pews, and abandoned the building.

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On the morning of 11 June, all that remained of Oradour was a smoldering mass of burnt farms, shops, and houses..642 people had died.

Martyred Village

Commemorating the 1944 Massacre at Oradour-sur-Glane


1 posted on 06/11/2007 7:10:16 PM PDT by bd476
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Always remember. Never again.

2 posted on 06/11/2007 7:13:47 PM PDT by bd476
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To: bd476

Moral -— be careful to whom you surrender your country.
Moral 2 -— when your resistance fighters are communists, you screwed up somewhere.


3 posted on 06/11/2007 7:18:10 PM PDT by gcruse
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To: bd476

Wow! I need to get this book.


4 posted on 06/11/2007 7:19:10 PM PDT by true_blue_texican (...against all enemies, foreign and domestic...)
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To: bd476

The World At War Series had footage on this village..

Amazing that Europeans feel the Islamofascists are different somehow...


5 posted on 06/11/2007 7:23:16 PM PDT by Experiment 6-2-6 (Admn Mods: tiny, malicious things that glare and gibber from dark corners.They have pins and dolls..)
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To: gcruse

The cure was just as bad as the disease.


6 posted on 06/11/2007 7:23:48 PM PDT by Abcdefg
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To: Abcdefg

I don’t know what you mean.


7 posted on 06/11/2007 7:29:03 PM PDT by gcruse
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To: Abcdefg

It was worse.


8 posted on 06/11/2007 7:29:28 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~~~Jihad Fever -- Catch It !~~~)
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To: gcruse

Commies vs. Nazis.


9 posted on 06/11/2007 7:30:05 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~~~Jihad Fever -- Catch It !~~~)
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To: bd476

Not interested in a crummy scuzzie Commie site. Why did you post from this site?


10 posted on 06/11/2007 7:31:58 PM PDT by eleni121 (+ En Touto Nika! By this sign conquer! + Constantine the Great)
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Oradour-Souviens-Toi.com


Translated from French:

Oradour on Glane was destroyed during the second world war, on June 10, 1944. This village of the Limousin was the theatre of a systematic execution on behalf of Waffen S.S., making 642 victims officially. Oradour-on-Glane chart, one afternoon of June was striped, four days after the unloading in Normandy. Preserved in a state of ruin, this phantom village remains the witness of an odious crime…

Located at a score of kilometers in the western north of Limoges, the place is seizing. The whole village was preserved, the rails of the tram are still in place. Many carcasses of cars still resist rust, just like some domestic objects remained in the houses.

Several feelings clash at the time of the visit. One traverses a pilot place, a material proof of a massacre. However the ruins of Oradour still release, the charm of a village of the years 1940, a village of the countryside limousine. The provision of the buildings, frontages still debouts, recalls us what was this village, and one can then think the environment which there could be.

For the 61st birthday, this site was altered, enriched. Almost all the images can be increased, and the documents are more numerous. It wants to be to be richest possible. This site with for goal to maintain the memory the place and the massacre. Oradour-remember is a currency,…, never again, and yet…

Benjamin Corbeau, Architect

Oradour-Souviens-Toi.com

11 posted on 06/11/2007 7:54:24 PM PDT by bd476
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To: eleni121
The German SS and Nazi soldiers burned alive and shot 642 French men, women and children, all civilians, an entire village June 10, 1944 after demanding the men relinquish their weapons.

If that is of no concern or interest to you, why bother making comment.




12 posted on 06/11/2007 7:54:44 PM PDT by bd476
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To: bd476
Very sad.
However for the communists to portray themselves as "liberators" of France is pathetic. The French Communists had crippled France's war effort, especially during the fall on 1939. At munitions factories and railroads there were strikes.
While France probabaly still would have lost these were TRAITORS who should have been hanged.
13 posted on 06/11/2007 7:55:31 PM PDT by rmlew (Build a wall, attrit the illegals, end the anchor babies, Americanize Immigrants)
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To: bd476
Vive la résistance! Et vive la France libre!

"...They shall grow not old, as we that are left grow old:
Age shall not weary them, nor the years contemn.
At the going down of the sun and in the morning
We will remember them."

-Laurence Binyon, "For the Fallen"

The Free French fought the Nazis bravely and well, long after the Vichy government had betrayed them. Heroes all. God rest all the martyrs of Oradour-sur-Glane.

*DieHard the Hunter*
14 posted on 06/11/2007 7:58:39 PM PDT by DieHard the Hunter
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To: Experiment 6-2-6
Experiment 6-2-6 wrote: "The World At War Series had footage on this village..

Amazing that Europeans feel the Islamofascists are different somehow..."


It is amazing, isn't it.

15 posted on 06/11/2007 7:59:33 PM PDT by bd476
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To: bd476

I will make any comment I see fit when it appears that the posting is directly from a commie weblink. I ask again why you post this information from that link when it is available at other links?

And by the way...the commies destroyed millions of lives...as well as their partners in crime the nazis ALL OVER THE WORLD


16 posted on 06/11/2007 8:02:39 PM PDT by eleni121 (+ En Touto Nika! By this sign conquer! + Constantine the Great)
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Church: Site of Execution of Women and Children

View of church taken in September 1944


A view of the Church taken in September 1944. The smoke blackening of the building can be seen, especially around the windows. With the passage of time much of this smoke damage has been washed off by weather action. Note the largely intact, but collapsed roof in the foreground which has come from an adjacent building (it is not a part of the church). Compare this view with that of June 1998.

A point to consider is that, if the church steeple was used to store explosives, as claimed by some people, why is it still standing relatively undamaged? It is obvious that the roof of both steeple and church have gone in the fire, but according to one of the SS reports, "The flames (from adjacent houses) had sprung over to the church, which was burned out to the accompaniment of violent explosions" (Tulle and Oradour, a Franco-German tragedy by Otto Weidinger). Quite how flames could 'spring over', to a stone built church from a stone built house and set it alight has not been explained.



OradourInfo

17 posted on 06/11/2007 8:10:24 PM PDT by bd476
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To: DieHard the Hunter
DieHard the Hunter wrote: "Vive la résistance! Et vive la France libre!

'...They shall grow not old, as we that are left grow old: Age shall not weary them, nor the years contemn. At the going down of the sun and in the morning We will remember them.'

-Laurence Binyon, 'For the Fallen'


The Free French fought the Nazis bravely and well, long after the Vichy government had betrayed them. Heroes all. God rest all the martyrs of Oradour-sur-Glane."



Thank you, DieHard!

18 posted on 06/11/2007 8:14:09 PM PDT by bd476
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To: gcruse

> Moral -— be careful to whom you surrender your country.
> Moral 2 -— when your resistance fighters are communists, you screwed up somewhere.

It would be timely to point out that the “Communists” in Spain fought the Fascists and the Nazis bravely and well, long before America got off its arse in late 1941 to join the squabble that became to be known as WW-II.

Very brave men and women — some of them even from America like Ernest Hemingway — fought alongside “Communists” against the Nazis as members of the Loyalists.

It would also be relevant to note that the “Communists” in USSR and the former Jugoslavia fought the Nazis just as fiercely as any of the Allies ever did, and in the case of the USSR, they took casualties on a scale that is truly horrific to imagine. And America was only too pleased to send them military aid to help fight the Nazis.

The “Communists” in France were one of several groups who opposed the Vichy government. Many gave their lives doing so — long before America got involved.

Moral #3: know your history before you spruik off about it.


19 posted on 06/11/2007 9:45:19 PM PDT by DieHard the Hunter
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“Communists” in Spain fought the Fascists and the Nazis bravely and well, long before America got off its arse in late 1941”

Would they have done so if Adolf had not abrogated the nonaggression treaty with the Soviets that, in its secret protocols, divided up the spoils of war between Germany and Russia? You know which one I mean. The leftists and the communists were perfectly willing to let the Fascists and the Nazis have their way. Or am I just spouting ignorant non-history again?


20 posted on 06/11/2007 9:58:40 PM PDT by gcruse
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