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Georgia judge voids 10 year sentence in conseunsual teen sex case.
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Posted on 06/11/2007 11:05:28 AM PDT by John Cena

ATLANTA — A Georgia judge on Monday voided a 10-year sentence given to a man who was convicted while a teenager of having consensual oral sex with a 15-year-old girl.

Monroe County Superior Court Judge Thomas Wilson voided Genarlow Wilson's sentence and dropped it to misdemeanor aggravated child molestation with a 12-month sentence, plus credit for time served. Under the new ruling, he will not be required to register as a sex offender

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KEYWORDS: abatement; activistcourts; activistjudge; ageofconsent; ageofconsentlaws; commonlaw; culturewar; genarlowwilson; habeascorpus; ifitfeelsgooddoit; moralabsolutes; statutoryrape; teensex
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To: No Blue States

Imagine if it is your son.


141 posted on 06/11/2007 12:50:23 PM PDT by nyconse
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To: RFC_Gal

Cause it can’t result in a baby. Even if you have a brood of kids already, you aren’t allowed to waste one sperm.

At least, that is the rationale some Bible thumpers use.


142 posted on 06/11/2007 12:50:44 PM PDT by Larry Lucido (Duncan Hunter 2008 (or Fred Thompson if he ever makes up his mind))
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To: LexBaird
So, I guess we don't have a look-up chart after all, do we.

No, just like I said, we do. Judges still sentence according to the guidelines.

143 posted on 06/11/2007 12:51:21 PM PDT by Publius Valerius
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To: No Blue States

“Its amazing how the law is being ignored here when constantly I see threads complaining about judges legislating from the bench.”

The legislature changed the law.

“I guess it depends on the case?”

It hinges on the fact that the law wasn’t intended to turn teenagers into sex offenders for having sex with their peers. Now if this kid had been 30, I’d have agreed that he was a sex offender. But ruining a life to follow a law to the letter that was not intended for this... that’s immoral.


144 posted on 06/11/2007 12:51:36 PM PDT by JerriBlank
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To: No Blue States
"I guess it depends on the case?"

It did when the cute teacher didn't serve one day for raping her students because the judge felt she was too hot for incarceration.

145 posted on 06/11/2007 12:52:12 PM PDT by blaquebyrd
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To: Publius Valerius
In the absence of predictability, how is one to engage in a pattern of rational decision making?

By recognizing that "predictability" can refer to weighted ranges of probabilities as easily as it can to binary choices. Any actuary can give you "predictability" without being able to predict individual actions or outcomes. They base rational business decisions on their fuzzy predictions all the time, even recognizing that occasionally, the odds will beat them and the unpredicted occur.

146 posted on 06/11/2007 12:53:14 PM PDT by LexBaird (PR releases are the Chinese dog food of political square meals.)
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To: burzum
How did he beat the rap on raping that drugged, unconscious 17 year old girl?

This guy would appear to be a serial rapist.

147 posted on 06/11/2007 12:56:14 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Publius Valerius

But it isn’t mandated by the Rule of Law. It is a guide line, a reference. If the individual case demands it, it can be set aside to let reason prevail.


148 posted on 06/11/2007 12:57:18 PM PDT by LexBaird (PR releases are the Chinese dog food of political square meals.)
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To: Publius Valerius
In the absence of predictability, how is one to engage in a pattern of rational decision making?

This view is typical of those who hold a strictly Rule Utilitarian view of justice. They believe that if some rule benefits society as a whole, then that rule is morally good regardless of those it hurts on the outliers. This makes sense if you make a couple of assumptions. First you need to assume that a strict rule is the only way that you can make a rule. Second you need to assume that you can simply add up the utility (or happiness in some definitions) of the people as a whole and compare between potential rival rules selecting which one comes out numerically superior.

Myself, I think Rule Utilitarianism is a good theory, but that it needs to be supplanted with a virtue ethics theory in order to meet my own innate definition of justice. I reject the first assumption outright and I don't intend to address the second assumption (because it is irrelevant to my argument). Unlike those who take a strictly Utilitarian viewpoint, I think that rules or laws should be enacted only through good reason and judgment. "Good reason and judgment" is of course what Aristotle would have replied to almost any question--because it is an inherently correct action. How can you go wrong by thinking?

So instead of trying to be clever, I will just steal Aristotle's multipurpose defense of good reasoning and judgment and say that I think utility (or happiness) will be better maximized if all rules are interpreted through good reasoning and judgment that if they were to be strictly enacted. And this is rational decision making to me.

Answer me this: if the rule of law is always right because it maximizes the happiness of everyone concerned, then would it be just if a law was made that let the government use force to harvest the organs of innocent people? This would save multiple lives for every one lost (someone gets critical bone marrow, another a new heart, another a lung, and another a kidney), and you could select that only the greatest 'losers' were slaughtered as to maximize happiness. Should this be done or not? And feel free to explain your objection without using good reasoning and judgment.

149 posted on 06/11/2007 12:57:43 PM PDT by burzum (None shall see me, though my battlecry may give me away -Minsc)
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To: LexBaird

Predictions may be “fuzzy,” but there is a general idea of the outcome. One can be fairly confident of a particular outcome because there is some element of predictability to the law.

If you take that away, as it advocated, it becomes impossible to judge the probability of any sort of outcome at all; it would be akin to betting on horse races without the Form.


150 posted on 06/11/2007 12:59:24 PM PDT by Publius Valerius
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To: JerriBlank

According to Georgia law he wasnt a teenager.

I agree the spirit of the law over the letter of the law is best applied.

But if anyone ruined his life he enabled them by being a dumb little bastard.
Not that I wasnt at his age.
Still the 10 years is excessive.
Worse criminals spend less time.


151 posted on 06/11/2007 1:00:13 PM PDT by No Blue States
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To: Publius Valerius
In the absence of predictability, how is one to engage in a pattern of rational decision making?

Oh, and one more point. Japan has a 99% conviction rate. Would you call that the epitome of rational decision making because defendants know they are going to prison before they set foot in the court room?

152 posted on 06/11/2007 1:00:37 PM PDT by burzum (None shall see me, though my battlecry may give me away -Minsc)
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To: blaquebyrd

I remember, as did many here.
Theres a double standard if the perp is female and hot.


153 posted on 06/11/2007 1:01:10 PM PDT by No Blue States
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To: No Blue States
Its amazing how the law is being ignored here when constantly I see threads complaining about judges legislating from the bench.

The judge here ignored nothing, and in fact very plainly acknowledged that the law had been changed while Wilson was in prison and keeping him in there made no sense at all given that the maximum penalty for that crime was now 12 months in jail. Wilson has already served double the penalty for the crime. Why do you folks and the DA insist this kid stay in prison for ten years while NOBODY ELSE can ever get that sentence again?

What some of you are missing is that in Georgia, the Governor and the legislature do not have the power to commute or reduce sentences. Only a court can do that. This was the proper way for the sentence to be changed. The DA is mad that the law got changed and that persons convicted now do not register as sex offenders. He had insisted from day one that any plea deal to reduce the sentence include being a registered sex offender for life. That is what this is all about - this one man's desire for Wilson to be a registered sex offender. The DA has some serious issues to any rational person.
154 posted on 06/11/2007 1:01:19 PM PDT by NorthFlaRebel
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To: JerriBlank
"And yes.. it’s on videotape, and according to a friend of the girl who was allegedly raped, she did not say “no” to having sex at any time."

She was under the influence and, at times, unconscious, making her incapable of giving consent.

155 posted on 06/11/2007 1:03:20 PM PDT by Eagles6 (Dig deeper, more ammo.)
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To: muawiyah
How did he beat the rap on raping that drugged, unconscious 17 year old girl?

The jury viewed the video tape and determined she was consenting.
156 posted on 06/11/2007 1:04:14 PM PDT by NorthFlaRebel
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To: NorthFlaRebel

“The judge here ignored nothing”

I was talking about FR posters. ;)


157 posted on 06/11/2007 1:06:32 PM PDT by No Blue States
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To: Eagles6

Unless you are either a)in the DA’s office or b)were on the jury, you are simply repeating prosecution characterizations which the jury rejcted. The jury saw the tape, heard the testimony of the female and disagreed. I suspect you were neither on the jury nor were you privy to viewing the tape.


158 posted on 06/11/2007 1:07:49 PM PDT by NorthFlaRebel
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To: blaquebyrd
Teenagers do stupid things and I agree that the girls were stupid. The oral sex with the 15 yr old appears to be consensual and he was sentenced under the letter of the law.

From everything that I have been able to find, the 17 yr. old was gang raped while under the influence/unconscious. If a female passes out at a party, anything goes?

159 posted on 06/11/2007 1:09:52 PM PDT by Eagles6 (Dig deeper, more ammo.)
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To: AppyPappy
"Since when can a 15 year-old consent to sex?"

Since when a 17 year-old? Or is it a crime when one of the minors is male?

160 posted on 06/11/2007 1:11:07 PM PDT by Natural Law
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