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To: Tall_Texan
The Harry Potter books are not “children's books”. They are studies in the occult. There are “magical powers” but no belief in an Almighty Deity. There is no belief anywhere in the HP that I have read. Only secular humanism cast as intrepid children. Harry Potter creeps me out and it’s success is a world wide phenomena. I’ve always thought that Dr. Seuss is creepy too. Totalinarism, and BTW, don’t tell your mother. (Cat in the Hat)

Bottom line...all children’s movies, books and games are suspect in this Age of Agenda. Isn’t Nemo just a shill for eco-craziness? It looks that way to me.

9 posted on 06/10/2007 5:28:28 PM PDT by ishabibble (ALL AMERICAN INFIDEL)
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To: ishabibble
I’ve always thought that Dr. Seuss is creepy too. Totalinarism, and BTW, don’t tell your mother. (Cat in the Hat).

I've always thought that those inserts that they give you with your prescriptions are creepy. Nausea, vomiting, lightheadedness and all.

10 posted on 06/10/2007 5:35:16 PM PDT by Half Vast Conspiracy (Nappy is the new N-word.)
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To: ishabibble

I had plenty of Dr. Seuss books growing up and it didn’t turn me into an atheist.

As I said before, reading some books from a different world view allows for a chance to discuss and analyze what was just read which can lead to deeper thinking by the children as opposed to only exposing them to philosophies you agree with.

True, a lot of stuff is agendra-driven or indoctrinating but if I were an elementary teacher and some child brought in “Heather Has Two Mommies”, I wouldn’t shriek and run from the room in a childish fit, I would politely let the child read the text and then explain some of the benefits of having a Mommy and a Daddy present in the household, expressing sadness for any children present who had two mommies but no daddy.

It might still get me in trouble to do that but I’d at least demonstrate I was open-minded to the child’s curiosity then expressed a countering point of view then allowed the children to think for themselves.

The first law of teaching is that you should be smarter than your students. Demonstrating that you have confidence in your beliefs in the face of countering points of view is far more compelling to a child than acting as a censor. That’s what I hate so much about the NEA and other academia attempting to squelch any discussion of creationism or intelligent design. If they had any confidence in their belief, they wouldn’t try so hard to prevent anyone else from disagreeing.


15 posted on 06/10/2007 6:14:39 PM PDT by Tall_Texan (Fred, are you in or out?)
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To: ishabibble

My sarcasm sensor is on the blink, so I’m not sure if that was really how you felt or if it was a solid attempt at humor.


38 posted on 06/11/2007 6:37:34 AM PDT by GraniteStateConservative (...He had committed no crime against America so I did not bring him here...-- Worst.President.Ever.)
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To: ishabibble
There are “magical powers” but no belief in an Almighty Deity.

Since you never read any of the books, you are undoubtedly unaware that Hogwarts School of Witchcraft and Wizardry celebrates Christmas and Easter.

Something my children's schools don't.

40 posted on 06/11/2007 6:50:30 AM PDT by null and void (Wherever liberty has sprouted around the world, we find its seeds were watered with American blood)
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To: ishabibble

I personally loathe the entire series from what I’ve been able to see about it. But I plan to teach in the public school system and they are hot right now. Before I teach, I plan to read the entire series. If you teach in the public school, you have to choose your battles very carefully. I want to be informed about this popular series before I’m in the classroom and I know that I need to proceed carefully. While I think this woman is right about the series, I don’t think she chose the right way to handle this incident. Maybe she’d do better teaching in a Christian school.


44 posted on 06/11/2007 7:12:56 AM PDT by twigs
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To: ishabibble

These are fictional books, meant merely to be good stories. They are not to be taken seriously.


52 posted on 06/11/2007 7:24:19 AM PDT by SALChamps03
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To: ishabibble

You said: The Harry Potter books are not “children’s books”. They are studies in the occult.
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I disgree. They are children’s books (I read some of the first one, but I am not big on fiction— and no one contends that these are non-fiction books.). They are not “studies” in anything. They are fantasy stories about made up witches. If, however, you wish to buy into them being advocacy books on the occult, you will need to put aside a number of other books and stories:
— Little Red Riding Hood (Really! A talking wolf? Who would teach us that animals can talk?)
— Cinderella (A good fairy turning a pumpkin into a carriage and mice into horses. How much more occult can one get?)
— Jack and the Bean Stalk (Come on, magic beans? A plant that grows tall and strong enough overnight to climb into the sky to encouner a giant, with a goose that lays golden eggs? This is over the top!)

I think you get the idea. I know a lot of kids who have read these books, and none of them for a minute think it represents a true story or that witchcraft is real, or even advocated in these books.


58 posted on 06/11/2007 7:36:01 AM PDT by NCLaw441
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To: ishabibble

I choose not to live in paranoia.


64 posted on 06/11/2007 7:47:32 AM PDT by azhenfud (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: ishabibble
The Harry Potter books are not “children's books”. They are studies in the occult. There are “magical powers” but no belief in an Almighty Deity.

Nor is there any "Almighty" in Lord of the Rings, and those books have magic and good wizards.

105 posted on 06/11/2007 10:36:20 AM PDT by js1138
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To: ishabibble; Tall_Texan; js1138; azhenfud; NCLaw441; SALChamps03; twigs; null and void; ...

Yeah, and “the Lion the Witch and the Wardrobe” are occult teachings too!

No direct references to God anywhere! And talking animals?! Blasphemy!

And then there’s “Hid dark effects- Northern Lights (aka Golden Compass)” Such devildom!

Lets not forget “The Book of Three”, adapted from oral traditions (Lloyd Alexander, that draconic pagan!)

Beowulf! Why read such a thing? It’s obviously an affront to God (while giving credit to God at certain points....)

Let’s banish Bruce Coville’s works as well. They only suggest super-natural beings, with no redeeming qualities!

Berenstein Bears! Oh, the humanity! More talking animals?!

Shel Silverstein is nothing but nonsensical poems based on irrationaly implausible ideas! Vile.

Wizard of Oz is another example of demonic paganism run rampant and seeping into our popular culture, corrupting our very lives.

And let’s not forget giving souls to inanimate objects- Velveteen Rabbit, Edward Toulaine, Indian in the Cuboard...

And lets not forget the kid wanting to eat his mom in “Where the Wild Things Are”!

As a matter of fact, aren’t the pictures on book covers an “engraven image?” They fly in the face of the Ten Commandments! Burn them all! Burn all the books but the Holy Bible! (unless it has toons inside to help kids understand events. These should be burned as well.)

</slam sarcasm off>


I saw LOTR was already addressed, so it got left out.


108 posted on 06/11/2007 12:00:16 PM PDT by MacDorcha (Peace is not the highest goal - freedom is. -LachlanMinnesota)
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To: ishabibble
I’ve always thought that Dr. Seuss is creepy too. Totalinarism, and BTW, don’t tell your mother. (Cat in the Hat)

Would love to hear your analysis of Bert and Ernie... ;)

Cheers!

139 posted on 06/13/2007 2:39:33 AM PDT by blindsided
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To: ishabibble
The Harry Potter books are not “children's books”. They are studies in the occult.

Only in your fervid imagination.

142 posted on 06/13/2007 7:42:20 AM PDT by SuziQ
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