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Ice Ages Dried Up African Monsoons
New Scientist ^ | 6-10-2007

Posted on 06/10/2007 2:59:59 PM PDT by blam

Ice ages dried up African monsoons

10:00 10 June 2007
NewScientist.com news service

When ice ages held Europe in their grip, Africa also felt the pinch - though in a different way.

It has long been suspected that there is a connection between the west African monsoon and climate at higher latitudes - especially over geological timescales, says David Lea at the University of California, Santa Barbara. "But until now, there hasn't been enough supporting evidence." Now Lea, with team leader Syee Weldeab and colleagues, has reconstructed the most detailed history of the monsoon yet, spanning 155,000 years and two ice ages.

The team analysed the amount of barium in plankton shells found in an ocean sediment core drilled beneath the Gulf of Guinea. Barium is found in freshwater run-off from the river Niger, says Lea, and is a gauge of past run-off levels and monsoon intensities. When the northern latitudes were frozen over, monsoon rains were much weaker, only gaining strength again when the temperatures in the north increased, the team found.

They also discovered big swings in monsoon activity over timescales as small as 100 years, linked to rapid climate change caused by changes in ice sheet size (Science, vol 316, p 1303). "Something that happens right up in the poles can have a dramatic effect on the climate in the tropics," says Lea.

(Excerpt) Read more at environment.newscientist.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: africa; climatechange; godsgravesglyphs; iceage; monsoon
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1 posted on 06/10/2007 3:00:00 PM PDT by blam
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To: SunkenCiv
Ice Ages Blamed On Tilted Earth
2 posted on 06/10/2007 3:01:19 PM PDT by blam
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To: blam

Does this mean that with Global warming and the ice melting,that the Sahara will soon be a tropical region?


3 posted on 06/10/2007 3:52:18 PM PDT by sgtbono2002 (I'm gonna vote for Fred. John Bolton for VP.)
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To: sgtbono2002
Does this mean that with Global warming and the ice melting,that the Sahara will soon be a tropical region?

If so, then the Left will whine that the Western nations are ruining the Saharan culture.

4 posted on 06/10/2007 4:26:54 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici
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To: VeniVidiVici
Does this mean that with Global warming and the ice melting,that the Sahara will soon be a tropical region?
If so, then the Left will whine that the Western nations are ruining the Saharan culture.
If so, let them. The more important issue to pay attention to is that the impending worldwide disruptions due to climate change will negatively affect the security of ourselves and our allies. There is a good chance the next war in the Mid-East will be fought over water, for example.
5 posted on 06/10/2007 4:38:21 PM PDT by Free as the breeze
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To: 75thOVI; AFPhys; Alice in Wonderland; AndrewC; aristotleman; Avoiding_Sulla; BenLurkin; Berosus; ...
Thanks Blam.
 
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6 posted on 06/10/2007 7:41:41 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Time heals all wounds, particularly when they're not yours. Profile updated June 8, 2007.)
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To: blam; FairOpinion; StayAt HomeMother; Ernest_at_the_Beach; 1ofmanyfree; 24Karet; 3AngelaD; 49th; ...
Thanks Blam. I really hate it when the Earth tilts. Today I peeled through another thirty or so pages of the Adovasio book, mostly about Pleistocene glaciation etc.

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7 posted on 06/10/2007 7:44:07 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Time heals all wounds, particularly when they're not yours. Profile updated June 8, 2007.)
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To: SunkenCiv
"Today I peeled through another thirty or so pages of the Adovasio book, mostly about Pleistocene glaciation etc."

I'm slugging my way through this one: After the Ice: A Global Human History 20,000-5000 BC (Hardcover) by Steven Mithen (Author)

If this SOB mentions man-made global warming one more time I'm likely to throw this book in the trash.

8 posted on 06/10/2007 7:50:44 PM PDT by blam
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To: blam

Adovasio refers to the origin of the ice ages as being “murky”, and makes a couple of references to CO2. After I rip through this one, and write an Amazon review of it (along with the memoir “Alvarez”), I plan to start “Bones”. Seems like there’s another one around here... oh yeah, I’ve got to do some excavation and locate that book on the Clovis extinction...


9 posted on 06/10/2007 8:30:10 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Time heals all wounds, particularly when they're not yours. Profile updated June 8, 2007.)
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After the Ice: A Global Human History 20,000-5000 BC After the Ice:
A Global Human History
20,000-5000 BC

by Steven Mithen


10 posted on 06/10/2007 8:32:23 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Time heals all wounds, particularly when they're not yours. Profile updated June 8, 2007.)
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Bones: Discovering the First Americans Bones:
Discovering the First Americans

by Elaine Dewar


11 posted on 06/10/2007 8:39:25 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Time heals all wounds, particularly when they're not yours. Profile updated June 8, 2007.)
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To: blam; SunkenCiv

Okay, dammit, I’ll have to read this thing. Meanwhile, here’s my best guess:

Climates were more largely spread across latitudes pre-Ice Age, making for less competition over food sources, and, thereby, rewarding hunting/gathering. Ice Age and thereafter restricted food supplies into similar latitudes and created more competition over food sources, thus rewarding control over food supply and social organizations.

Well, there’s my best economic model for the Rise of Civilation...


12 posted on 06/10/2007 8:40:11 PM PDT by nicollo (All economics are politics)
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To: SunkenCiv

Let me know if you like ‘Bones.’ It sounds like a subject I’m interested in.


13 posted on 06/10/2007 8:54:04 PM PDT by blam
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To: nicollo; SunkenCiv
"Well, there’s my best economic model for the Rise of Civilation..."

Sounds reasonable. However, I think there have been civilizations of which we'll never find any physical evidence...sort-of (ahem) Sunken Civilizations.

14 posted on 06/10/2007 8:57:21 PM PDT by blam
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To: nicollo

Wow, glad we forced you to read it, that’s an excellent analysis IMHO.


15 posted on 06/10/2007 8:58:23 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Time heals all wounds, particularly when they're not yours. Profile updated June 8, 2007.)
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To: blam

Even if I were to start it tomorrow, I spend far too much of my time online (especially considering it’s summer), and the thing is about 2 1/2 inches thick (if memory serves, I’ve not looked for it in a while).


16 posted on 06/10/2007 9:00:33 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Time heals all wounds, particularly when they're not yours. Profile updated June 8, 2007.)
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To: blam

See, I had a motive...


17 posted on 06/10/2007 9:00:58 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Time heals all wounds, particularly when they're not yours. Profile updated June 8, 2007.)
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To: SunkenCiv; blam

Well, thanks, but I haven’t read the book yet. I’m kinda mad at you and Blam for bringing it up at all. I was hoping for a LIGHT reading list this summer...

Thanks for all your hard work on these threads. Fantastic stuff!


18 posted on 06/10/2007 9:01:48 PM PDT by nicollo (All economics are politics)
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82,000 Year Old Jewellery Found
Oxford Mail | 6-4-2007 | Fran Bardsley
Posted on 06/04/2007 1:43:44 PM EDT by blam
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19 posted on 06/10/2007 9:01:57 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Time heals all wounds, particularly when they're not yours. Profile updated June 8, 2007.)
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To: nicollo
Many thanks. You might try this one first (this is the one I've lost somewhere in the house):

The Cycle of Cosmic Catastrophes: Flood, Fire, and Famine in the History of Civilization The Cycle of Cosmic Catastrophes:
Flood, Fire, and Famine in
the History of Civilization

by Richard Firestone,
Allen West,
Simon Warwick-Smith


20 posted on 06/10/2007 9:04:33 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Time heals all wounds, particularly when they're not yours. Profile updated June 8, 2007.)
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