Editorial | Cosby's Message

Philly.com ^ | June 10, 2007 | Unattributed

[gpapa]

Bill Cosby's popularity in the African American community hasn't been the same since he started speaking his mind about it. He has told parents to start parenting. Told the community it was complicit in the misogyny, vulgarity, violence and racism in black culture.

[SWAMPSNIPER]

Not all indentured servants were Irish. I have an indentured servant ancestor from Switzerland. Selling yourself into a term of servitude was a way of paying for your passage.

[FReepapalooza]

“I’d wager every nickel I have that,50 years ago,the incidence of black crime,black joblessness,and black broken homes...among other things....was far,*far* lower than it is today.”

And you would win that wager hands down. 50 years ago was before the gubinment took over.

[avacado]

You are right. But the majority were Irish and they were in the penitentiary system in England and the English were basically dumping their prisoners off to America as indentured servants (slaves).

Once America started getting black slaves, the English started dumping their prisoners off to Australia.

See: John Hughes - The Fatal Shore, The Epic Founding of Australia.

[little jeremiah]

Later pingout.

[cpdiii]

The welfare requirement of no working male in the household was what did it.

We have a winner! When you subsidize poverty you will get more poverty. The real question is why the Democrats never try to fix it and always block Republican attempts to fix it.

[Gay State Conservative]

Have you been there? I personally think the place is awesome and would love to go back for a long visit.

Yes,I've been there and all I can say to you is "whatever floats your boat".Apart from Italy (which I love) nothing I've seen in Europe has interested me in the least.Perhaps someday I'll travel to a country/region that does interest me.

[Doe Eyes]

Although the typical black person had far fewer opportunities

Many today don't understand, though you start at the bottom, you don't have to remain there.

For me, every job I had was a learning experience that made me more valuable to my next employer.

I may have started out cooking burgers(mowing lawns before that), but I never thought that was were I would end up.

[FrankR]

"But they aren’t listening and those who hear him think he is just mean."

Every spoiled child accuses those who would block his/her whims and wishes, as "mean".

The unintended consequence of the civil rights act has been the creation of a spoiled and priviledged class of Americans. It's tentacles have not spawned the independence and pride, as intended, but has inflated the expectation of entitlement and privilege to "make up" for the slavery that no currently-living human ever endured.

Every race has had its "slaves" and every race has had its "Kings". Over the grand scheme of history, 100 years is but a blink in time.

The monumental "guilt trip" purpertrated on the boomers is on its way out, and once the boomers are gone, so will the support for all of the liberal bleeding heart handout programs. The democrats have managed to tax and regulate our manufacturing base out of America, and the coming decades will be filled with poverty and civil strife as the law of the jungle overtakes the law of the land. It will be survival of the fittest.

All those conspiracy nuts out there worrying about algore's global warming should be worried about a demise that is more swift, and more painful than a 1-degree increase in temps over the next 100 years.

Whatever is left of this great Republic in 100 years will be in caves reading "The Rise and Fall of the American Republic".

[Riverman94610]

Yet don’t you find it ironic that during that period of time when black people were way more stable as a family and a community is the time they caught so much hell from white people.
Now,when the atmosphere is “off the hook”,whites generally leave blacks alone.

[FReepapalooza]

Yes, I do find it ironic.

I’m speaking as a person born on the South side of Chicago. I went to school with the united nations, believe me. I believe it gave me an insight that most people will never have.

The black families that lived around us, that I knew, were pretty much like us; making a living for their familes and enjoying life as best they could. I don’t recall any of the kids not having a father.

Then along came Robert Taylor Homes, and the others and things just went downhill from there.

[llevrok]

something to ponder

Allegedly, blacks have been on the bottom rung of the ladder - both in number and economically

In comes the latinos and the blacks are not bumped up a rung but left on the bottom.

What are they not doing that the new immigrants are?

Family and strong male figures.

[Riverman94610]

I have a co-worker that came up in Taylor Homes.He has some stories to tell!
Remember what happened in 1966 at Marquette Park.The sons of Polish victims of Hitler waving swastikas and shouting
white power”at the urging of Rockwell’s Nazis.
Families in general were more stable back then.In my all white community,a divorced person was scandalous.
Yet my generation blew it.Most all of us have been divorced or in multiple relationships that never panned out.Our parents provided a model but most of us never emulated it.

[FReepapalooza]

The sixties (sigh), there was always turmoil it seemed. That era promoted not emulating your parents, too bad so many of us bought into it.

I don’t know what your take is on this, but when I look back, it seems my once strict parents suddenly became very permissive during that time. Sometimes I wish they would have disciplined me more than they did.

[Riverman94610]

Funny you say that because mine fit that description.It was as if they were afraid to lose us completely so they ignored a lot of the crazy things we were doing.
I grew out of most of those wild child ways.No more drugs,running the streets,etc.Yet one thing I could never mend in my life is the instability of my personal realtionships.I am just as dysfunctional today as as I was 40 years ago.I don’t have a clue how to deal with women.

[FReepapalooza]

Boomers get blamed for all the liberalism we see today, but truth be told, it was their parents who nurtured it.

I’m not as dysfunctional as I used to be; guess I finally grew up.

Trust in your Higher Authority, through Him, all things are possible. :)

[Riverman94610]

With God I am never alone.
And thats all that REALLY matters.

[FReepapalooza]

I say those exact same words every day!

[Ax]

My great-grandmother was brought from Ireland to Grosse Pointe, Michigan, to be an indentured servant to a prod family in about 1875. I want my reparations, and I want them NOW.

[Riverman94610]

The whole reparations argument is bizarre.If it ever went through,the benefactors would be overwhelmingly white businessmen involved in jewelry,cruise lines,automobiles,yachts,and designer clothing.