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How Eisenhower solved illegal border crossings from Mexico [a proposal for Bush]
The Christian Science Monitor ^ | July 6, 2006 | John Dillin

Posted on 06/08/2007 7:49:06 AM PDT by KC Burke

WASHINGTON – George W. Bush isn't the first Republican president to face a full-blown immigration crisis on the US-Mexican border.

Fifty-three years ago, when newly elected Dwight Eisenhower moved into the White House, America's southern frontier was as porous as a spaghetti sieve. As many as 3 million illegal migrants had walked and waded northward over a period of several years for jobs in California, Arizona, Texas, and points beyond.

President Eisenhower cut off this illegal traffic. He did it quickly and decisively with only 1,075 United States Border Patrol agents - less than one-tenth of today's force. The operation is still highly praised among veterans of the Border Patrol.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; Government; Mexico
KEYWORDS: aliens; eisenhower; immigrantlist; immigration
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To: KC Burke
I don't think any party is dealing with this well right now and see no better alternative for this administration

There it is. That's where we stand. I hope that we find the will to close the border and put increasing pressure on employers by means of penalties and deportations. A direct confrontation and grand solution are unwise and unlikely.

101 posted on 06/08/2007 10:37:42 AM PDT by liberallarry
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To: liberallarry
I hope that we find the will to close the border and put increasing pressure on employers by means of penalties and deportations. A direct confrontation and grand solution are unwise and unlikely.

Then perhaps our desires aren't too different. The difference is that I no longer have the hope for those simple solutions to be implemented or for the Congress to even allow thier implementaion is GWB had the will.

Instead, Congress, trying to assert themselves as a branch will innovate and procude a disaster of a bill.

I think something like I suggest as a "grand solution" is really an adroit end run and avoids the "direct confrontation.

If implemented, in the end it would do much of what is central to the desires of many.

102 posted on 06/08/2007 10:44:41 AM PDT by KC Burke (Men of intemperate minds can never be free...their passions forge their fetters.)
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To: KC Burke
The border NEEDS to be controlled and controlled very tightly.
Casual visitors with properly obtained Visas are one thing. Individuals seeking a better life at U.S.taxpayer’s expense through “creative entry” is another.
Persons seeking entry who have skills sought by this nation and governed by regulation is yet another.
Control is the key word.
We must decide who enters and who stays, under what circumstances. This cannot be delegated to another NGO or nation.
Automatic citizenship and “anchor” babies is disgusting and criminal in nature as a tactic to commit a violation of U.S. sovereignty.
But first,....close the border.
103 posted on 06/08/2007 10:50:17 AM PDT by Gideon Reader (DEMOCRATS: Not quite American, and proud of it! Palestinians are,...well,... Palestinian.)
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To: EveningStar

Tardping?


104 posted on 06/08/2007 10:52:16 AM PDT by agent_delta
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To: Squantos

Sounds good bro!

We also need to bust the ass of the people who hire illegals.

Fines don’t bother old man Tyson. Put his cherry butt into the slam for 10 years and he will waddle out a different man.

Make it impossible for non-English speakers to buy a candy bar if they cannot produce proof that they have a right to be here.


105 posted on 06/08/2007 10:58:02 AM PDT by Eaker (Free The Texas 3 - Ramos, Compean and Hernandez)
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106 posted on 06/08/2007 11:00:16 AM PDT by EveningStar
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To: Al Gator
CONTRABAN LABOR! I love it. We should use this phrase liberally, and bring it back into vogue.

I totally agree

107 posted on 06/08/2007 11:07:54 AM PDT by YellowRoseofTx
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To: dawn53
You can’t deport a citizen,

Why can't a "citizen" who is a minor of parents who are not legal residents, much less citizens, be deport until they are of legal age?

108 posted on 06/08/2007 11:13:35 AM PDT by YellowRoseofTx
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To: ChildOfThe60s
What motivates him and his reasoning processes is unknown to me, and in some ways I don’t care.

We should all care. I believe his motivation is the New World Order, with the US being part of the North American Union. Open borders, new money and new leadership under the U.N.

109 posted on 06/08/2007 11:19:48 AM PDT by YellowRoseofTx
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To: KC Burke
It isn't a good legislative or administrative tool.

I've been thinking that this is the problem with Bush, he has good intentions but bad administrative skills, mainly because he refuses to see the negative in his enemies.

110 posted on 06/08/2007 11:26:31 AM PDT by Eva
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To: KC Burke
It isn't a good legislative or administrative tool.

I've been thinking that this is the problem with Bush, he has good intentions but bad administrative skills, mainly because he refuses to see the negative in anyone, including his enemies.

111 posted on 06/08/2007 11:27:04 AM PDT by Eva
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To: liberallarry; Squantos
Raise costs significantly - in any way - and you risk disaster.

Pure crap.

We are paying so much more in services and incarceration than we are saving by paying criminals, many diseased, a couple of bucks less per hour.

If you have not reported your friend then you are part of the problem too. Give me his name and address and I will report his ass if you are afraid to.

112 posted on 06/08/2007 11:28:52 AM PDT by Eaker (Free The Texas 3 - Ramos, Compean and Hernandez)
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To: Eaker
Give me his name and address and I will report his ass if you are afraid to.

He's my friend, jackass. You know that word F-R-I-E-N-D. And you're completely full of it if you think it would do any good. The streets in front of all the lumberyards in his town are FULL of illegals soliciting work and nobody does anything about it. It's the same in most towns in the U.S. so stop playing the big man, blowhard.

We are paying so much more in services and incarceration than we are saving by paying criminals, many diseased, a couple of bucks less per hour

Most of the guys I saw were healthy and very hard workers...so save your ignorant, racist rant for someone else. The savings are far more than a couple of bucks an hour and the guys who hire them make quite a bit of money by doing so. It's the rest of us who are stuck with the bill.

113 posted on 06/08/2007 12:26:07 PM PDT by liberallarry
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To: liberallarry

You call me a ignorant, racist and a blowhard.

You truly are a liberal. Your friend’s name is jackass? It fits.

Simply because a neighborhood is full of crack dealers we should make it legal?

“It’s the rest of us who are stuck with the bill.”

The only thing you got right and it makes the rest of your post appear stupid.

Which it is.


114 posted on 06/08/2007 12:35:39 PM PDT by Eaker (Free The Texas 3 - Ramos, Compean and Hernandez)
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To: Eaker
Simply because a neighborhood is full of crack dealers we should make it legal?

Where does this come from? Have I said that we should make the illegals citizens? Crack dealers are treated very differently than poor illegals looking for honest work, legally, conceptually, culturally. My friend, for example, would NEVER think of bringing a crack dealer anywhere near his home. You're living in some sort of paranoid nightmare.

115 posted on 06/08/2007 12:55:18 PM PDT by liberallarry
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To: Eaker
We are paying so much more in services and incarceration than we are saving by paying criminals...a couple of bucks less per hour.

This is the rational part of your argument.

It's correct and is actually an understatement since many of us are paying a price which is hard to measure in money - unsafe schools and streets, fear of assault and humiliation, degraded cities and environments, threats to our values and traditions.

That's why the dispute is so difficult to resolve.

116 posted on 06/08/2007 1:02:18 PM PDT by liberallarry
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To: liberallarry
poor illegals looking for honest work, legally, conceptually, culturally.

These are criminals. I have neither the patience or the time to educate you as to the difference between illegal and legal. If you had any morals or education you would know the difference.

Quick example: I can legally remove money from my bank with a withdrawal slip. I cannot legally remove money with a gun. Get it? I would try to dumb it down more for you but I am not smart enough to be that dumb.

Your criminal friend does not know if the scum he hires are not drug dealers too. Please tell your friend, jackass, that I hope his savings are worth selling out our country. I will without misusing a comma let you know that you are indeed a jackass.

117 posted on 06/08/2007 1:06:44 PM PDT by Eaker (Free The Texas 3 - Ramos, Compean and Hernandez)
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To: All

I just watched 15 minutes of cable news with all sorts of sound bites from politicians. Feinstein thinks her complaining callers were racist. Most of the Senators are looking for a new bill already. None of them want to acknowledge that action on existing law instead of poisonous bi-partisan innovation is what the countryside desires.
They may have heard us, but they didn’t understand.


118 posted on 06/08/2007 1:16:21 PM PDT by KC Burke (Men of intemperate minds can never be free...their passions forge their fetters.)
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To: Eaker
If law was as simple as you think why do we need lawyers? If all criminals are the same why do we have a whole slew of punishments meant to fit the crime? What does "cruel and unusual" mean? A long time ago a Greek had the idea of punishing all crimes with death and another thought he could run a hotel with one size bed by cutting our stretching his customers to fit.

You're not smart enough to even consider social problems, let alone propose reasonable or workeable solutions. Try soap operas and comic books.

119 posted on 06/08/2007 1:23:50 PM PDT by liberallarry
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To: liberallarry

You cannot even stay on topic.

To make it clear you favor criminals and I don’t.

If I have time later I will read a comic book to you as it is probably beyond your capacity.

Tell jackass I said hello. Also tell him that when the illegals harm him that I think that he deserves it and I have no pity.

Is it really your “neighbor” or is it you?

You are a catnip toy and I am a cat. Batting you around is fun but I have grown-up responsibilities to attend to so I will view your next pathetic response later,


120 posted on 06/08/2007 1:34:28 PM PDT by Eaker (Free The Texas 3 - Ramos, Compean and Hernandez)
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