Posted on 06/08/2007 4:33:15 AM PDT by savedbygrace
It's Not Over [Kathryn Jean Lopez]
A Senate aide cautions:
First, yes, the victory yesterday - a product of tireless efforts by a handful of conservative Senators and staff - is a nice pause in this debacle. But I am afraid that is all it may be... the White House is still 100% committed to getting this bill passed. Harry Reid is looking to actually accomplish SOMETHING for crying out loud... and there is no tiring by ... the entire "deal-making" team. The White House has a full plan of attack. They are ready to start plucking votes one-by-one. Conservatives should note precisely which Senators were with us on defeating cloture and compare that to how Senators may change if the bill comes back... in other words, we should make sure we know which Senators are bought-off if the White House does what we believe they will. The sad reality is that people are putting far too much stock in the votes against cloture for some of the deal-makers. Some felt they had to vote that way in order to be "fair" to the caucus. However, those guys were ready to vote the other way if they had felt they could get away with it. Seriously, don't make too much of their votes... there were very specific reasons why they did it - and it had to do with the tough stances of a few conservative senators...
06/08 05:56 AM
That's hyperbole. They were not illegal immigrants until laws were put in place that made them illegal. That didn't happen at the founding.
Your suggestion to impeach President Bush on this issue is utterly stupid, and laughable and it is not going anywhere.
I didn't call for impeachment, I said he has committed acts that are impeachable. I then said the political will for impeachment isn't there yet.
Did you call for impeaching every President in the last 40 years because they did not enforce the borders?
The issue reached the tipping point only a few years ago.
Did you call for impeaching Ronald Reagan because he ACTUALLY signed an amnesty bill in 1986?
I believed them when they assured us the borders would be enforced. They lied.
Quit your stupid and hateful ranting
That level of rhetoric is not helpful to the debate. You demean your arguments by resorting to it.
Two words: Ft. Dix
And how do you know they haven't? How do you know they won't today, or tomorrow, or next week?
Gamble with your own life, pal.
They are coming here on legal visas, or EU and Canadian passports that do not require a visa, and some are already here as US citizens or legal permanent resident.
"Don't worry. Most of the bad people who want to kill you are already here, so there's absolutely no need to lock the door to keep any more of them out."
Idiocy. Sheer idiocy.
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Apparently we do.
Personally I hope they impeach him just so we can watch that throbbing vein in your forehead pop...
Besides, we'd get President Cheney and he wouldn't stand for this crap.
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Spurrier would do it!
Look at the big picture. This shamnesty bill was carefully crafted to further President Bush's real agenda, the North American Union (begin reading on page 23).
He desperately wants this implemented before he leaves office. He sees it as his legacy. Assuming turning the US into a third world hell hole within 20 years can be called a legacy.
Bush is bucking for approval rateings in the Teens..
This may seem a bit harsh, but your greedy, lazy neighbors are a big part of this problem.
All we need to do is keep Republican senators' feet to the fire.
I know what you said. Here's what it sounds like to someone who is sane:
"The burglars have already broken in, so there's no need to lock the doors ever again."
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Sounds like you are looking for a fight and your weapon of choice is insulting verbiage. Okay, ten paces Mind Numbed Johnny boy.
You lost. Na na, na na, na.
We (being those who love this country) won. That makes you a loser. A poor loser at that.
Your mother wears army boots.
My dad can beat up your dad. By the way, did he happen to mention his name the few minutes he spent with your mother? He he.
You are violating the sodomy laws, take your head out of your butt and look around. Looks the same to you? Try wiping the crap out of your eyes. Na na, na na, na na.
Math, like reasoning, may not be your strong suit. You add trouble, subtract pleasure, divide attention, and multiply ignorance.
You think I'm funny? I don't hold a candle to your parents, who made the biggest joke of all. Na na,na na, na na.
I hear someone asked you to turn on the black light and you turned the light off.
Somebody forgot to water you this week, didn't they?
Save your breath, Johnny boy. You'll going to need it to blow up your wife again tonight. He, he. Na na, na na, na na.
Whoever told you to be yourself gave you some really bad advice.
I heard you changed your mind. So, what did you do with the diaper?
What sign were you born under...'RED LIGHT DISTRICT'?
I heard you're so stupid you sold your car for gas money.
Is this grown up enough for you, Johnny boy?
In case you haven't noticed, the left is no longer talking about impeaching Bush. They no longer need to. He's outdone them in the quest to destroy this country.
It must be nice being ewe. It keeps your dad happy.
Poor Johnny, poor Johnny. You've aged without growing wiser.
I know you are not a conservative. Are you Republican? Liberal democrat? Communist? Bushbot? Bastard? Weasel? Piece of talking doggy doo?
I hope I have given you what you want here. It is clear you are not looking for reasoned discourse or an honest exchange of opinions.
BUMP
JV, it's NOT your business to tell anyone what they should or should not support. Americans don't support a leader who is against the welfare of it's citizens! I don't want Bush impeached, because Cheney is just as misguided.
Again, I ask how do you keep getting away with insulting fellow freepers day after day. It's nice you have a job here in this country where you can spend all day on internet forums. What a country!
“At what point does an armed response become necessary to protect our country from those who would destroy it?”
I am beginning to think our government doesn’t work. We put in a Republican congress in 94 and elected Bush in 2000 and it was a total failure. Conservatives have no representation in the current system.
Better include the senate and congress for about 30 years worth of neglect in this area.
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