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It's Not Over
NRO ^ | 6/8/07 | Kathryn Jean Lopez

Posted on 06/08/2007 4:33:15 AM PDT by savedbygrace

It's Not Over [Kathryn Jean Lopez]

A Senate aide cautions:

First, yes, the victory yesterday - a product of tireless efforts by a handful of conservative Senators and staff - is a nice pause in this debacle. But I am afraid that is all it may be... the White House is still 100% committed to getting this bill passed. Harry Reid is looking to actually accomplish SOMETHING for crying out loud... and there is no tiring by ... the entire "deal-making" team. The White House has a full plan of attack. They are ready to start plucking votes one-by-one. Conservatives should note precisely which Senators were with us on defeating cloture and compare that to how Senators may change if the bill comes back... in other words, we should make sure we know which Senators are bought-off if the White House does what we believe they will. The sad reality is that people are putting far too much stock in the votes against cloture for some of the deal-makers. Some felt they had to vote that way in order to be "fair" to the caucus. However, those guys were ready to vote the other way if they had felt they could get away with it. Seriously, don't make too much of their votes... there were very specific reasons why they did it - and it had to do with the tough stances of a few conservative senators...

06/08 05:56 AM


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; bds; immigrantlist; immigration
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Bush will be trying to buy Senatorial votes to shove this amnesty thing in the back door, folks.

IMO, he is becoming an enemy of the Republic.

1 posted on 06/08/2007 4:33:16 AM PDT by savedbygrace
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To: savedbygrace

What is more likely: El Presidente becoming AWARE and then doing the right thing on the border?

or his Impeachment by Democrats (in the absence of his previous base)?

2 posted on 06/08/2007 4:36:29 AM PDT by Diogenesis (Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
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To: savedbygrace
"IMO, he is becoming an enemy of the Republic."

I agree. Impeach his butt.

3 posted on 06/08/2007 4:37:01 AM PDT by blam
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To: blam
I’m ready for Cheney to take the reins.
4 posted on 06/08/2007 4:38:17 AM PDT by Vision ("Blessed is the man who trusts in the Lord, whose confidence is in him." Jeremiah 17:7)
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To: savedbygrace
If President Bush was smart... (hey, I said if!) ... he would let this one go.

If President Bush continues down this road, the coalition of people who will oppose him is already organized. There will be no delay as people who support him on the War on Terror decide whether or not to come out against him on amnesty.

He spent that goodwill, and got nothing for it. But just because he got nothing for it does not mean it was not spent. If he so much as breathes a word about amnesty between now and January 2009, the base will be all over him, and it won't be pretty.

5 posted on 06/08/2007 4:41:41 AM PDT by gridlock
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To: Diogenesis
Note to Always Whining. You neither have any ground not do you have the votes in the Congress and you know it. So quit with the pathetically childish idle threats and utterly stupid ranting
7 posted on 06/08/2007 4:43:13 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (If you will try being smarter, I will try being nicer.)
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To: savedbygrace

We have to be ready to pluck them out one by one.

Remember this about politicians. Their only real loyalty is to themselves and their getting themselves re-elected.

We have to stand ready to put them out of office.


8 posted on 06/08/2007 4:43:48 AM PDT by sgtbono2002 (I'm gonna vote for Fred. John Bolton for VP.)
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To: blam
I agree. Impeach his butt.

Then you are politically ignorant child. You have neither the grounds nor votes. So shut up with the pathetically childish ranting. You don't get to impeach anyone just because you don't agree with his polices. Grow the heck up. Politics isn't about getting 100% of your personal emotional whimsy granted.

9 posted on 06/08/2007 4:45:52 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (If you will try being smarter, I will try being nicer.)
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To: gridlock
Note to Know Nothings. You don’t own the base. Get over yourselves. You have neither the votes in the Congress nor the grounds to do a thing to Bush. So quit with the childish bluster
10 posted on 06/08/2007 4:47:12 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (If you will try being smarter, I will try being nicer.)
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To: savedbygrace

The immigration bill is certainly not dead. It’s in surgery. The White House and both parties in the Senate want some kind of immigration bill before ‘08, and they’ll carve it into something that can win enough votes to pass.


11 posted on 06/08/2007 4:50:31 AM PDT by ReignOfError (`)
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To: savedbygrace
Until the "Duncan Hunter" Fence that already pasted into law gets funded, you and i will know that they are full of it.

Get ready for the Battle of the Bulge. The think we will wear down. I hope we can win the next round. We need to be all over the next attempt. I am hoping for some big things from the American people.

Jim Robinson: "If they’re here illegally today, and a bill makes them not illegal tomorrow, it’s AMNESTY!"

12 posted on 06/08/2007 4:50:59 AM PDT by Afronaut (Press 2 for English - Thanks Mr. President !)
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To: Diogenesis; spectre; truthkeeper; AuntB; kabar; Cedric; tioga; Brad's Gramma

EVERYONE needs to read this......it’s NOT OVER!


13 posted on 06/08/2007 4:52:50 AM PDT by Guenevere (Duncan Hunter for President, 2008!!)
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To: savedbygrace
IMO, he is becoming an enemy of the Republic.

Bush is willing to strongarm members of his own party in an effort to pass legislation that will destroy the United States... all against the wishes of the overwhelming majority of the American people. He is an enemy of the republic.

I was speaking with friends over the weekend - all older, learned men: attorneys, PhD holders, and a philosophy professor - about the chances of violence against the government if this bill passes. All of them agreed that passage of the amnesty bill would foment the exact same seeds of revolution that that led to our war against the British crown.

At what point does an armed response become necessary to protect our country from those who would destroy it?
14 posted on 06/08/2007 4:53:58 AM PDT by snowrip (Liberal? YOU ARE A SOCIALIST WITH NO RATIONAL ARGUMENT.)
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To: MNJohnnie; blam

Bush has intentionally failed to properly enforce our immigration and border control laws for 6+ years. That is malfeasance of office, which is certainly impeachable.

Also because of this failure to enforce, he has allowed an unknown number of Islamic terrorists into the country. That is a violation of his Oath of Office to protect us against our enemies. That is unarguably impeachable.


15 posted on 06/08/2007 4:56:08 AM PDT by savedbygrace (SECURE THE BORDERS FIRST (I'M YELLING ON PURPOSE))
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To: MNJohnnie
Note to Know Nothings. You don’t own the base. Get over yourselves. You have neither the votes in the Congress nor the grounds to do a thing to Bush. So quit with the childish bluster

I agree that the talk of impeachment is silly. But I think the Republicans in Congress are going to be loathe to take up amnesty again, any time soon.

I am not calling for President Bush to be removed from office. But I would hope he realizes that he gave his best push for amnesty here, and that any future efforts are doomed to fail even more miserably.

16 posted on 06/08/2007 4:56:59 AM PDT by gridlock
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To: MNJohnnie

Note to MNJohnnie: Stop the name calling on this thread.


17 posted on 06/08/2007 4:58:42 AM PDT by savedbygrace (SECURE THE BORDERS FIRST (I'M YELLING ON PURPOSE))
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To: Guenevere

I suspected it is not over- it is a breather.


18 posted on 06/08/2007 4:59:47 AM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet -Fred'08)
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To: MNJohnnie

Mexican nationals have no allegiance to the United States.

Mexico is not our friend and never has been.

Mexico opposes our war efforts.

Mexico is an enemy.

Mexico sucks.


19 posted on 06/08/2007 5:00:35 AM PDT by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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To: snowrip
At what point does an armed response become necessary to protect our country from those who would destroy it?

That point was passed around 1934 during the Imperial Presidency of F.D.R.

It is unlikely to happen now.

20 posted on 06/08/2007 5:01:38 AM PDT by KDD (Ron Paul for President)
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