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McCain follows Giuliani, will skip Iowa straw poll
The Hill ^ | 06/06/2007 | Klaus Marre

Posted on 06/07/2007 4:51:02 AM PDT by Ultra Sonic 007

Hours after former New York mayor Rudy Giuliani (R) announced that he would skip the Iowa straw poll, the campaign of Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) said Wednesday that it would follow suit.

“In light of today’s news, it is clear that the Ames Straw Poll will not be a meaningful test of the leading candidates’ organizational abilities, so we have decided to forego our participation in the event,” said McCain’s campaign manager Terry Nelson.

Nelson pointed out that McCain has built a solid organization in Iowa and “intends to win the state’s caucuses.”

Giuliani’s camp had announced earlier that the current GOP frontrunner would skip the August straw poll to focus resources on the January caucuses.


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Iowa
KEYWORDS: elections; giuliani; mccain; mittromney
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Meanwhile, Romney declares early victory in Iowa over McCain and Giuliani. Mitt's got good PR, I'll give him that.
1 posted on 06/07/2007 4:51:05 AM PDT by Ultra Sonic 007
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To: Unmarked Package; pissant; Paperdoll; AuntB; upsdriver; trisham; Kevmo

Ping of interest.


2 posted on 06/07/2007 4:51:46 AM PDT by Ultra Sonic 007 (Why vote for Duncan Hunter in 2008? Look at my profile.)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

I would actually like to see the Republican nominee, whoever it is, be someone who did not campaign in Iowa. I’m tired of the ethanol lobby picking our presidents. As far as traditions go, this one is both bogus and sad.


3 posted on 06/07/2007 4:56:16 AM PDT by samtheman
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

Wanna bet McCain or Giuliani win the Iowa Caucus?


4 posted on 06/07/2007 4:59:26 AM PDT by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: samtheman
I’m tired of the ethanol lobby picking our presidents. As far as traditions go, this one is both bogus and sad.

Your grasp on this is what is bogus and sad.


5 posted on 06/07/2007 4:59:57 AM PDT by elizabetty (Perpetual Candidate using campaign donations for your salary - Its a good gig if you can get it.)
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To: elizabetty

And you are both ugly and rude.


6 posted on 06/07/2007 5:01:08 AM PDT by samtheman
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To: samtheman

Bingo - the Iowa straw poll is a joke - always has been.

I think you have described it well - I might add that it’s a competition for the campaign with the most buses, etc.

Straw polls are silly in the end.


7 posted on 06/07/2007 5:03:35 AM PDT by Jake The Goose
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

Right now, Romney may win the straw poll by default.


8 posted on 06/07/2007 5:06:06 AM PDT by Always Right
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

Giuliani doesn’t play well in fly-over country. He should stay in Iowa to get a measure of how much work his has to do in fly-over country.

McCain tanked, per Frank Luntz, politicial analyst on Fox&Friends yesterday. Luntz’s metered group did not respond well to McCain’s response to immigration questions.


9 posted on 06/07/2007 5:07:50 AM PDT by TomGuy
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it’s a competition for the campaign with the most buses
Exactly.

Somebody has to go first. Right. But after an initial lottery, we could have a system of orderly rotation (6 primary dates, 8-9 states in each primary, rotating in turn after the initial lottery set-up, as an example). THAT would be Democracy in action.

10 posted on 06/07/2007 5:43:04 AM PDT by samtheman
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To: samtheman

Bingo


11 posted on 06/07/2007 5:44:51 AM PDT by GeorgefromGeorgia
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To: samtheman

Well said.


12 posted on 06/07/2007 5:51:35 AM PDT by Jake The Goose
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To: Jake The Goose
If the Iowa Straw Poll is such a joke why do the campaigns do everything they can to make a good showing? The Straw Poll has taken on the significance the Caucus once had--that is to get rid of some candidates.

Seems to me that Iowa has now gotten rid of McCain and Rudy but without them having to support the party and I can't blame them for that.

I believe McCain is DONE. Rudy probably still has some life--especially in the NE but his numbers are on the way down.

13 posted on 06/07/2007 5:51:48 AM PDT by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma

So this tells me Rudy has no grassroots support and McCain’s will soon be moving to camp FRed.


14 posted on 06/07/2007 5:55:11 AM PDT by NeoCaveman (Fred 2008)
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma

Good question - good observations.

History is the answer to Iowa - so many years of precedent made it a force to be dealt with.

But no more - the entire primary process is being redefined and Iowa is NOT what it once was.

The rule book does not exist right now - it’s in the process of being written.

Good or bad - that remains to be seen.

I actually see Rudy as gaining strength after about 4 weeks of tough going - he is regaining his footing. In my opinion.

Mitt is taking a lot of blows - Fred Thompson is about to get into the fight - and he will be bombarded for “not playing by the rules”.

I think (I think) it’s Rudy vs. Fred in the end - and I think Rudy wins the GOP nomination.

But - as I have said before - I supported Perot - so my vision is not 20-20.


15 posted on 06/07/2007 6:00:14 AM PDT by Jake The Goose
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At least Rudy doesn't have ENOUGH grassroots support. I'm not saying he doesn't have any but I know of no one supporting him except for staff and the same for McCain.

We had an event with representatives from the campaigns Sunday and one asked how many there had not made up their minds and most hands went up.

I'm extremely plugged in politically and so far there is little firm support for anyone. That doesn't necessarily mean we're dissatisfied with the field but that we're just waiting to see what happens before we make up our minds.

16 posted on 06/07/2007 6:02:21 AM PDT by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma

Maybe they’re afraid of Dave Yepsen.


17 posted on 06/07/2007 6:06:08 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (BTUs are my Beat.)
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To: Jake The Goose
Jake, I'm going to challenge you to the winner of not having 20/20. I supported Gramm and Forbes.

It is possible that in the future you may be correct but for this year, I think that if anything, Iowa's influence is even greater. This Straw Poll is a big deal and Rudy and McCain pulling out says a lot.

Now, if others would leave, then my opinion changes.

18 posted on 06/07/2007 6:06:46 AM PDT by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

I doubt it.


19 posted on 06/07/2007 6:08:01 AM PDT by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: samtheman
And you are both ugly and rude.

I did not mean to be rude and yes, I probably am ugly.

Let me try it again.

I respectfully disagree with your statement, I’m tired of the ethanol lobby picking our presidents. As far as traditions go, this one is both bogus and sad.
This has nothing to do with ethanol, it is RETAIL POLITICS in its purist form. These small states, Iowa and New Hampshire, are where candidates go to take their case to the PEOPLE. It is about shaking hands and kissing babies but more importantly it is to show off your campaign organization.

The straw poll has little or nothing to do with ethanol and the ethanol lobby does not pick our Presidents.
20 posted on 06/07/2007 6:09:59 AM PDT by elizabetty (Perpetual Candidate using campaign donations for your salary - Its a good gig if you can get it.)
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