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DRUDGE - REPORTS: IMMIGRATION BILL ON THE BRINK OF COLLAPSE IN SENATE... DEVELOPING...
DRUDGE ^ | DRUDGE (or Breitbart)

Posted on 06/06/2007 10:02:57 PM PDT by doug from upland

That is the headline on Drudge and all he has for now. Since Matt is undoubtedly in bed on the East Coast, we can probably thank Andrew Breitbart.

The immigration bill is on the brink of collapse in the Senate. Let's hope for some more developments soon.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; drudge; illegalaliens; immigrantlist; immigration
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To: A CA Guy
Bush signed into law that we were to have 800 miles of wall up by early 2008 and I heard some group is going to sue to have that done because not even 1% of that wall has started to go up.

On illegal immigration, W is a Liar, and he knows he is a Liar. May his legacy suffer accordingly.

241 posted on 06/07/2007 1:04:08 AM PDT by FlyVet
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To: doug from upland

Just saw a replay of Brit Hume’s show and Fred Barnes was saying it would pass Senate and eventually in The House. Praying that the Drudge headline is correct and Barnes is talking out his butt.


242 posted on 06/07/2007 1:09:21 AM PDT by beaversmom
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To: FlyVet

If you are a male, it’s not too late. Start looking and get to crackin’.


243 posted on 06/07/2007 1:12:44 AM PDT by beaversmom
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To: LibertyRocks

ping


244 posted on 06/07/2007 1:17:16 AM PDT by beaversmom
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To: jonrick46
I am praying for double lightning strikes in Washington DC too! If we can’t get through to these knot-heads, I hope God will not be mincing words.

Well, don't worry. Washington, D.C., is on the preferred nuke targets of al Qaida. Is your God named Allah, too?

245 posted on 06/07/2007 1:21:16 AM PDT by patriciaruth (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1562436/posts)
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To: doug from upland

Well, as my fellow Buckeye and House Minority leader John Boehnner would say.

this piece of (excrement) bill is dead.


246 posted on 06/07/2007 1:25:33 AM PDT by se_ohio_young_conservative
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To: FlyVet
Well, nobody can call anybody Bushbots these days.

Just shows that we can support him on the war and justices and ride him on immigration and social spending.

Still, this illegal immigration bill is too important to sell out on or to screw up with.

Better we secure the borders first and then later deal with illegals.

Or how about just enforcing current laws?

247 posted on 06/07/2007 1:26:59 AM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: doug from upland
Please Please Please Please Please Please Please Please Please Please Please Please Please Please Please Please Please Please Please Please Please Please Please Please Please Please Please Please Please Please Please Please Please Please Please Please Please Please Please Please let it be true!!!!!!!!!
248 posted on 06/07/2007 1:30:39 AM PDT by Recovering_Democrat (I am SO glad to no longer be associated with the party of Dependence on Government!)
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To: Jeff Chandler
from the Eisenhower article about border enforcement posted by someone else in this thread:

[Because of beefed up enforcement] an estimated 500,000 to 700,000 illegals had left the Lone Star State voluntarily.

Hmmm. Enforcement sounds like an option to me.

249 posted on 06/07/2007 1:34:07 AM PDT by Recovering_Democrat (I am SO glad to no longer be associated with the party of Dependence on Government!)
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To: beaversmom

Get to crackin’ LOL you darn well better have cranked out some babies if you come at me with that!


250 posted on 06/07/2007 1:37:10 AM PDT by FlyVet
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To: A CA Guy
I voted for W twice, as I voted for his dad twice, but man what a weird brew he is. These boyz just WHORE themselves to the money far too much. Why is that so necessary?

Tinfoil hat.

The Unseen Hand.

None Dare Call it Conspiracy.

Call it Conspiracy.

Trilaterals over Washington.

Tragedy and Hope.

251 posted on 06/07/2007 1:45:24 AM PDT by FlyVet
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To: beaversmom

Barnes is pretty savvy. He’s probably aware how the big money is getting spread around to buy the votes needed. Money....the mother’s milk of politics.


252 posted on 06/07/2007 2:07:15 AM PDT by Russ7
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To: doug from upland

On the verge of collapse? Be still my heart.

Don’t let up even 1%. These kinds of stories often aim to defocus opposition to this piece of trash bill. Yeah, I know you know that. Drive a stake into its heart.


253 posted on 06/07/2007 2:08:25 AM PDT by Da Mav
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To: Prince Charles; doug from upland
Here is a SHORT EXCERPT from the L.A. Times:
Immigration Bill in Doubt After Vote

By CHARLES BABINGTON, Associated Press Writer
12:28 AM PDT, June 7, 2007

WASHINGTON -- A fragile compromise that would legalize millions of unlawful immigrants risks coming unraveled after the Senate voted early Thursday to place a five-year limit on a program meant to provide U.S. employers with 200,000 temporary foreign workers annually.

The 49-48 vote came two weeks after the Senate, also by a one-vote margin, rejected the same amendment by Sen. Byron Dorgan. The North Dakota Democrat says immigrants take many jobs Americans could fill.

The reversal dismayed backers of the immigration bill, which is supported by President Bush but loathed by many conservatives. Business interests and their congressional allies were already angry that the temporary worker program had been cut in half from its original 400,000-person-a-year target.

A five-year sunset, they said, could knock the legs from the precarious bipartisan coalition aligned with the White House. The Dorgan amendment "is a tremendous problem, but it's correctable," said Sen. Arlen Specter, R-Pa. The coalition will try as early as Thursday to persuade at least one senator to help reverse the outcome yet again, he said...

254 posted on 06/07/2007 2:10:51 AM PDT by RonDog
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To: FlyVet

I think they believe these illegals will make up for the people we did not get born in America who were needed but aborted.
Only problem is these are all losers who will not make money and pay taxes, all they will do is take welfare and vote Democrat.

Pure stupidity.


255 posted on 06/07/2007 2:11:18 AM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: Da Mav

THIS is what they want, my friends.

256 posted on 06/07/2007 2:12:45 AM PDT by LexRex in TN
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To: LexRex in TN
Okay, let me try THIS one--


257 posted on 06/07/2007 2:18:54 AM PDT by LexRex in TN
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To: se_ohio_young_conservative

Hope bill is dead. Why is there not a filibuster going on (or is there)? Reid seems to think he will outlast the holdouts.


258 posted on 06/07/2007 2:22:17 AM PDT by shalom aleichem
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To: RonDog
Here is that same Associated Press story -- from ANOTHER (non-L.A. Times) source, timesunion.com:
Immigration bill in doubt after vote
 
By CHARLES BABINGTON, Associated Press
Last updated: 4:14 a.m., Thursday, June 7, 2007

WASHINGTON -- A fragile compromise that would legalize millions of unlawful immigrants risks coming unraveled after the Senate voted early Thursday to place a five-year limit on a program meant to provide U.S. employers with 200,000 temporary foreign workers annually.

The 49-48 vote came two weeks after the Senate, also by a one-vote margin, rejected the same amendment by Sen. Byron Dorgan. The North Dakota Democrat says immigrants take many jobs Americans could fill.

The reversal dismayed backers of the immigration bill, which is supported by President Bush but loathed by many conservatives. Business interests and their congressional allies were already angry that the temporary worker program had been cut in half from its original 400,000-person-a-year target.

A five-year sunset, they said, could knock the legs from the precarious bipartisan coalition aligned with the White House. The Dorgan amendment "is a tremendous problem, but it's correctable," said Sen. Arlen Specter, R-Pa. The coalition will try as early as Thursday to persuade at least one senator to help reverse the outcome yet again, he said.

Until the Dorgan vote was tallied, Specter and other leaders of the so-called "grand bargain" on immigration had enjoyed a fairly good day.

They had turned back a bid to reduce the number of illegal immigrants who could gain lawful status. They also defeated an effort to postpone the bill's shift to an emphasis on education and skills among visa applicants as opposed to family connections.

And they fended off an amendment, by Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., that would have ended a new point system for those seeking permanent resident "green cards" after five years rather than 14 years.

All three amendments were seen as potentially fatal blows to the bill, which would tighten borders, hike penalties for those who hire illegals and give many of the country's estimated 12 million illegal immigrants a pathway to legal status.

The Senate voted 51-46 to reject a proposal by Sen. John Cornyn, R-Texas, to bar criminals -- including those ordered by judges to be deported -- from gaining legal status. Democrats siphoned support from Cornyn's proposal by winning adoption, 66-32, of a rival version that would bar a more limited set of criminals, including certain gang members and sex offenders, from gaining legalization.

Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., alone among his party's presidential aspirants in backing the immigration measure, opposed Cornyn's bid and backed the Democratic alternative offered by Sen. Edward M. Kennedy, D-Mass.

Senators also rejected a proposal by Robert Menendez, D-N.J., that would have delayed the bill's shift in favor of attracting foreign workers with needed skills as opposed to keeping families together. Menendez won 53 votes, seven short of the 60 needed under a Senate procedural rule invoked by his opponents.

Menendez's proposal would have allowed more than 800,000 people who had applied for permanent legal status by the beginning of 2007 to obtain green cards based purely on their family connections -- a preference the bill ends for most relatives who got in line after May 2005.

Meanwhile, Sen. Hillary R. Clinton, D-N.Y., fell short in her bid to remove limits on visas for the spouses and minor children of immigrants with permanent resident status.

While several Cornyn amendments failed, he prevailed on one matter opposed by the grand bargainers. That amendment, adopted 57 to 39, would make it easier to locate and deport illegal immigrants whose visa applications are rejected.

The bill would have barred law enforcement agencies from seeing applications for so-called Z visas, which can lead to citizenship if granted. Cornyn said legal authorities should know if applicants have criminal records that would warrant their deportation.

Opponents said eligible applicants might be afraid to file applications if they believe they are connected to deportation actions. Sen. Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif., said in an interview that Cornyn's amendment was "not a deal-killer" but would have to be changed in House-Senate negotiations.

Copyright 2007 Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed.


All Times Union materials copyright 1996-2007,
Capital Newspapers Division of The Hearst Corporation, Albany, N.Y.

259 posted on 06/07/2007 2:31:03 AM PDT by RonDog
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To: BurbankKarl
"That could be fatal for the bill, as any attempt to bring it back to the Senate floor later this year or early next year would mean it would land square in the political maelstrom of congressional and presidential elections in 2008."

It's a sham...open borders for at least two to three more years because the fence will never be funded if this is killed.

260 posted on 06/07/2007 2:38:44 AM PDT by Earthdweller (All reality is based on faith in something.)
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