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Think Political Parties Are Destroying America? Thank the 17th Amendment! by Todd Huston
The New Media Journal ^
| 5 june 2007
| Todd Huston
Posted on 06/05/2007 10:55:19 AM PDT by K-oneTexas
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Good article about an old idea.
To: K-oneTexas
The 17th is the single worst Constitutional Amendment every ratified.
Bar none.
L
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posted on
06/05/2007 10:55:56 AM PDT
by
Lurker
(Comparing moderate islam to extremist islam is like comparing small pox to plague.)
To: Lurker
Allowing a personal income tax is a very close second....
To: Lurker
Maybe so, but the 14th, 16th, and 24th are not far behind.
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posted on
06/05/2007 10:57:54 AM PDT
by
oblomov
To: K-oneTexas
That is a bell that cannot be “unrung” now because of the nature of the amendment process. What senator in his right mind is going to vote himself out of what has essentially become a lifetime appointment? The article hits the nail on the head, but I’m afraid it’s about as productive as pissing in the wind.
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posted on
06/05/2007 10:59:11 AM PDT
by
fix
To: rightwingextremist1776; oblomov
The others are bad, but nothing went so far in destroying the last vestiges of Federalism than the 17th.
Senators have become nothing more than Representatives with longer terms.
Not a good thing.
L
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posted on
06/05/2007 10:59:24 AM PDT
by
Lurker
(Comparing moderate islam to extremist islam is like comparing small pox to plague.)
To: Lurker
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posted on
06/05/2007 10:59:37 AM PDT
by
PA Engineer
(Liberate America from the occupation media.)
To: oblomov
Wha?
The Eighteenth Amendment was the real travesty !!!
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posted on
06/05/2007 10:59:39 AM PDT
by
SJSAMPLE
To: Lurker
If we still had states appointing senators, we’d never see a GOP majority again. This author is either stupid, or a Democrat(but I repeat myself.)
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posted on
06/05/2007 11:00:01 AM PDT
by
darkangel82
(Socialism is NOT an American value.)
To: darkangel82
If we still had states appointing senators, wed never see a GOP majority again. There would never have been a Dem majority in the first place.
L
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posted on
06/05/2007 11:01:39 AM PDT
by
Lurker
(Comparing moderate islam to extremist islam is like comparing small pox to plague.)
To: Lurker
Yep, lots of bad things came from our “progressive” past.
To: Lurker
2nd amendment bump!
To: K-oneTexas
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posted on
06/05/2007 11:04:34 AM PDT
by
Beth528
To: SJSAMPLE
Agreed. The 18th was the worst.
Just because someone doesn't like the results of how his fellow citizens vote for a senatorial candidate, doesn't mean that the idea of people choosing who represents them in Congress is a bad idea.
Right now, only 1/3 of our federal government is directly chosen by the people. Before the 17th, it was 1/6 (one of two houses in one of three branches of our government). 1/6 is too small.
To: K-oneTexas
This is one of the reasons FR exists.
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posted on
06/05/2007 11:05:31 AM PDT
by
RightWhale
(Repeal the Treaty)
To: K-oneTexas
The 16th and 17th were passed when the Socialist party had a decent influence in American politics. Their quickly growing numbers (from 13,000 registered voters in 1901 to 118,000 in 1912) made them an occasional player on the stage. The 17th was a Eugene Debs creation. (Debs got 400,000 votes for President in 1904)
To: HaveHadEnough
You really need to reread the Federalist papers. There were some very good reasons why Senators weren't popularly elected.
Those reasons are just as valid today as they were in 1780.
L
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posted on
06/05/2007 11:09:17 AM PDT
by
Lurker
(Comparing moderate islam to extremist islam is like comparing small pox to plague.)
To: oblomov
Off the top of my head, anything past the 10th was a bad idea
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posted on
06/05/2007 11:12:54 AM PDT
by
Las Vegas Ron
("I fear we have woken a sleeping giant and filled her with a terrible resolve" - Osama 9-11-01?)
To: Lurker
I’m not arguing; I just want to understand what you mean. The article says that by using the popular vote to elect senators, the states lost their power and representation in federal government. You said that the amendment destroyed the last vestige of federalism, but federalism refers to the power being at the federal government level. So, didn’t that amendment, therefore, strengthen federalism and make it paramount vs. states’ rights?
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posted on
06/05/2007 11:16:34 AM PDT
by
rimtop56
To: fix
What senator in his right mind is going to vote himself out of what has essentially become a lifetime appointment? I believe Article 5 allows for the Amendment process to also be started in the State Legislatures.. I will have to check that. Our Founders were quite wise (unless todays corrupt leaders)
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posted on
06/05/2007 11:16:45 AM PDT
by
sand88
(q)
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