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Taking a Flier on Free Speech - Hate-crime laws threaten the First Amendment.
City Journal ^ | June 4, 2007 | John Leo

Posted on 06/04/2007 6:31:02 PM PDT by gpapa

Handing out anti-gay fliers is apparently a risky act in Crystal Lake, Illinois. A 16-year-old girl who did so was charged with a felony hate crime and held without bail at a juvenile detention center for more than two weeks. Then the judge relented and let her go home. But the girl is being treated like a dangerous mafia chieftain: she was brought to court in leg shackles, she wears an electronic ankle device, and her phone calls and Internet use are being monitored. Her trial starts on Tuesday, June 5. One of her friends, also 16, will be tried as well for helping distribute the fliers.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Government; US: Illinois
KEYWORDS: antigayfliers; despotism; felony; gaystapotactics; gulag; hatecrimes; homosexualagenda; politicalprisoner; shackles; thoughtcrime
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1 posted on 06/04/2007 6:31:05 PM PDT by gpapa
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To: gpapa

I hope some Conservative law group takes her case.
It is definitely a ‘free speech’ issue...


2 posted on 06/04/2007 6:34:15 PM PDT by Duffboy
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To: gpapa
Citi (formerly Citigroup) is greeting its employees with a full color placard reminding them that June is Pride Month (gay, bisexual, transgender, [insert your favorite abberation]).

The largest bank in the world didn't get that way by "excluding" anyone. Unless your credit score is below 500...

3 posted on 06/04/2007 6:36:33 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (Thank you St. Jude.)
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To: Duffboy
It is definitely a ‘free speech’ issue...

It's more than a free speech issue, it's an anti-fascist issue.

4 posted on 06/04/2007 6:37:08 PM PDT by Prokopton
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To: gpapa
Why is it OK for the left wing/gay loving/anti Americans to say and do things that are weird and crazy...but let a right wing or conservative do it and it is now a hate crime?

Meadow Muffin

5 posted on 06/04/2007 6:37:45 PM PDT by rwgal
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To: gpapa

Free Speech only applies if you have a leftist point of view.


6 posted on 06/04/2007 6:39:12 PM PDT by MeSpikeLibs
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To: rwgal

Because Political Correctness is about criminalizing conservative thought.


7 posted on 06/04/2007 6:41:10 PM PDT by weegee (Libs want us to learn to live with terrorism, but if a gun is used they want to rewrite the Const.)
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To: gpapa

You must have been speaking of Venezuela or an Eastern Bloc country. Certainly not the USA! /s


8 posted on 06/04/2007 6:46:26 PM PDT by LiteKeeper (Beware the secularization of America; the Islamization of Eurabia)
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To: gpapa

Burn our flag and it’s free speech .... burn some other countries flag and it’s a hate crime .....


9 posted on 06/04/2007 6:47:42 PM PDT by SkyDancer ("There Are Two Theories To Arguing With Women. Neither One Works")
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To: Prokopton
It's more than a free speech issue, it's an anti-fascist issue.

Would you define fascist?

10 posted on 06/04/2007 8:06:37 PM PDT by wearearepublic
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To: rwgal
It’s only wrong if it is a person of conscience doing it, and what is on their flier is truth. The law will have no part of THAT!
11 posted on 06/04/2007 8:12:22 PM PDT by gidget7 (2Th 2:11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:)
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To: gpapa
My heart breaks for this poor girl She has the courage, that a lot of us adults lack, to voice the truth. She is trying hard to do the RIGHT thing, and she is put though this nightmare for all her work. God Bless her and keep her strong!
12 posted on 06/04/2007 8:14:56 PM PDT by gidget7 (2Th 2:11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:)
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To: gidget7
Students say that one of the males pictured on the flier is identifiable—a friend with whom the girl has been feuding. Police have not revealed the text of the fliers, but students said that they featured the ugly words GOD HATES FAGS. The singling out of a specific student may account for the harsh treatment.

I might have told her to hand it out off campus, because such a message with an identifiable male (a fellow student?)could be disruptive. But hauling her off to jail?! Of course not - this is a civil matter. She could get sued, but not jailed.

13 posted on 06/04/2007 8:23:15 PM PDT by Zack Nguyen
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To: wearearepublic
Would you define fascist?

There are many definitions but this one is appropriate in the context of the state controlling what you say and what you think. Some of Hillary's recent comments also seem to at least skirt the definition.

The glorification of the state and the total subordination of the individual to it. The state is defined as an organic whole into which individuals must be absorbed for their own and the state's benefit. This "total state" is absolute in its methods and unlimited by law in its control and direction of its citizens.

14 posted on 06/04/2007 8:25:55 PM PDT by Prokopton
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To: the invisib1e hand

There’s a Pride Month? A whole, blessed month?


15 posted on 06/04/2007 9:53:52 PM PDT by tuesday afternoon
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To: tuesday afternoon

there is according the Citi diversity promoters, or whatever they call that department. And remember, this is NYC. Every month is pride month.


16 posted on 06/05/2007 3:12:43 AM PDT by the invisib1e hand (Thank you St. Jude.)
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To: tuesday afternoon
There’s a Pride Month? A whole, blessed month?

And I might take exception to the adjective.

Now, they can promote this stuff, but am I allowed to protest it?

17 posted on 06/05/2007 3:13:50 AM PDT by the invisib1e hand (Thank you St. Jude.)
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To: gpapa

ping


18 posted on 06/06/2007 10:27:05 AM PDT by Richard from IL
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To: the invisib1e hand
And I might take exception to the adjective.

What's wrong with the adjective? :/

Now, they can promote this stuff, but am I allowed to protest it?

That is the question, is it not? I've read of some cases where people were fired from longstanding jobs for protesting inclusion in Gay Pride celebrations.

19 posted on 06/06/2007 7:14:00 PM PDT by tuesday afternoon
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To: tuesday afternoon
What's wrong with the adjective? :/

Well, you said "a whole blessed month," which it undoubtedly is, but it seems it's also a cursed month.

20 posted on 06/07/2007 8:06:57 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (Thank you St. Jude.)
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