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Liberal Minds and Homegrown Terrorism: Disbelief and Disrespect
purelypolitical.newsvine.com ^ | 6.4.07 | Bodhi1

Posted on 06/04/2007 5:25:35 AM PDT by Bodhi1

A person would be lead to believe that there is nothing to worry about when it comes to homegrown terrorism. We are to believe that the "wanna-be terrorists" are just completely incompetent, or that the federal government has everything firmly in hand and is just waiting to help the Bush Administration look good. Another idea is that the FBI is holding off on arresting terrorists until the Administration feels the country is not scared enough. Then they trot out some bad guys and say "See, be afraid. They could be anywhere."

The left refuses to see the possibility of these plots leading to the loss of life.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Editorial; News/Current Events; War on Terror
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1 posted on 06/04/2007 5:25:39 AM PDT by Bodhi1
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To: Bodhi1

I’ve railed for years about the unconscious assumption that “if it doesn’t have the ‘al qaeda’ brandname, it doesn’t count.”

I’ve also said since 9/13/01 (or so) that the worst thing that could happen to the War on Terror (sic) would be the capture or provable death of Osama Bin Laden — since there would be a clamor to “declare victory and go home”, leaving us as vulnerable as we were on 9/10.......


2 posted on 06/04/2007 5:34:36 AM PDT by Uncle Ike (We has met the enemy, and he is us........)
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To: Uncle Ike

I think we did get Him


3 posted on 06/04/2007 5:47:35 AM PDT by reefdiver (The sheriff of Nottingham collected taxes on behalf of the common good)
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To: Uncle Ike

Of course we all know that George Bush and Osama Bin Laden are working together.
/sarcasm

(seriously)
Should we be alert? Absolutly! (see Ft. Dix), Is there cause to get all paranoid? No. That’s what OLB and the terrorists want. They want us to be afraid of each other.


4 posted on 06/04/2007 5:51:52 AM PDT by Valin (History takes time. It is not an instant thing.)
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To: Valin

Did you see Juan Williams arguing with Bill Crystal yesterday on Fox? Looks like he really believes all of the 12 million illegals are just nice, hard working brown skinned folks. Any mention of terrorists or gangs is just bigotry. That either means that those who call themselves elites live in gated communities and have willfully blinded themselves to what is going on or they think we are idiots and will swallow their propaganda whole.


5 posted on 06/04/2007 6:01:31 AM PDT by ClaireSolt (Have you have gotten mixed up in a mish-masher?)
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To: ClaireSolt

I think Juan was defending his homies’ gangs and was thinking that Crystal was being a bigot...Juan is that dumb!


6 posted on 06/04/2007 6:17:11 AM PDT by iopscusa (El Vaquero. (SC Lowcountry Cowboy))
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To: Uncle Ike

Yes, most leftists think that way -

you can tell by their obsession with their mantra of “where’s Osama?”, which is supposed to be some sort of criticism of Bush.

Leftists DO think that, if we get Osama, the war will be over, and they can go back to putting their genitals wherever they please without worrying about real world problems.


7 posted on 06/04/2007 6:21:18 AM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: ClaireSolt

Did you see Juan Williams arguing with Bill Crystal yesterday on Fox? Looks like he really believes all of the 12 million illegals are just nice, hard working brown skinned folks.

No I was listening to Troop Talk
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“Any mention of terrorists or gangs is just bigotry”

Gangs Seek Battles With Rural Police
Strategypage ^ | 6/2/07
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1843762/posts

The Mexican government has asked the U.S. provide more aid and assistance as Mexico wages its counter-drug war. In the past Mexico has not asked the U.S. for financial aid, but in this case Mexico is interested in American help with surveillance and intelligence, to include the use of UAVs like the Predator. Mexican President Felipe Calderon has also said that he wants the U.S. to help Mexico stop arms smugglers from shipping weapons from the U.S. to Mexico.
(snip)
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Hugh Hewitt has been all over this (the Secruity angle)
Here’s just a couple of links

Wednesday, May 23, 2007
Todd Bensman’s Latest
Posted by Hugh Hewitt | 5:58 PM

http://hughhewitt.townhall.com/g/51494d4f-ff69-4070-a58d-012fd996dc84

San Antonio Express News’ Todd bensman’s latest on border crossing by illegals from “countries of interest” is now up.

So is an interactive graphic related to the series.

Here’s the transcript of my interview with Bensman from yesterday.

Here’s a key excerpt from today’s article:

The workload is not insubstantial. More than 1,500 special-interest immigrants have been captured in Texas since 9-11, including nearly 300 between March 2006 and April, among them Boles and his two companions, along with Iranians, Yemenis and Afghans. Diaz and other FBI officials familiar with special-interest immigrant assessments said the vast majority are determined to be economic refugees or people fleeing wars and political persecution.

“It’s not reached a level where we’ve had a threat to national security in the San Antonio district,” said Diaz, who has been on the job about a year.

Other federal counterterrorism authorities, however, say they have connected some border jumpers to terrorism. Among them was a South African woman of Middle Eastern descent whose July 2004 arrest at the McAllen airport with wet clothes, thousands in cash and a mutilated passport made international headlines.

Farida Goolam Ahmed eventually was charged with a simple illegal entry offense and quietly deported, but key documents remain sealed. A Dec. 9, 2004, U.S. Border and Transportation Security intelligence summary, accidentally released on the Internet, states that Ahmed was “linked to specific terrorist activities.”

Government officials familiar with the case now confirm Ahmed was a smuggler based in Johannesburg, South Africa, who specialized in moving special-interest immigrants into the United States along a United Arab Emirates-London-Mexico City-McAllen pipeline.

Houston-based federal prosecutor Abe Martinez, chief of the Southern District of Texas national security section in the U.S. attorney’s office, was asked if Ahmed or anyone she smuggled might have been involved in terrorism.

“Were they linked to any terrorism organizations?” Martinez said. “I would have to say yes.”

Martinez and a number of Texas-based FBI officials declined to elaborate. But an August 2004 report that appeared in the Washington-based Homeland Security Today quoted several unnamed government counterterrorism officials as saying Ahmed also was found to be ferrying “instructions” from a Mexico al-Qaida cell to another cell in New York.

The article reported Ahmed’s arrest led the CIA to capture two al-Qaida members in Mexico and several Pakistani al-Qaida members in Pakistan and in Britain who all were part of the plot to attack targets in New York

Sunday, June 03, 2007
“Killing America...Twice”: Jihadists And The Immigration Compromise
Posted by Hugh Hewitt | 9:15 AM

http://hughhewitt.townhall.com/g/b37723f7-efaf-4df8-9efb-3184e94bcd89

Andrew McCarthy looks at the Kennedy Airport Four:

Defreitas and his fellow jihadists, most haling from Guyana but with ties to Trinidad’s ruthless Jama’at al Muslimeen (the Muslim Group), wanted to do their part in what they unflinchingly called “the war for Islam.” They wanted to kill JFK, and kill us. A second time.

They know there’s a war out there. Not just Iraq or Afghanistan, but Dar al Islam and Dar al Harb — jihadists versus civilization. Global. For us to win, it will not be enough to stabilize Baghdad, sow democracy and empower moderates. It’s about breaking the enemy’s will, as they are working feverishly to break ours.

Thanks to excellent police work, this time they were stopped. But there will be a next time, and another. The jihadists know what’s at stake. Do we?

Giving the jihadists who are in the country illegally the ability to move around it at their leisure and the right to work the day after the new limmigration law passes remains the most absurd of all the aspects of the “compromise.”

The senators return to D.C. and to the debate on Monday. Be sure to keep calling. Ask them what the effect of the new law will be on a jihadist who entered the country illegally from Guyana, Somalia, Jordan, Saudi Arabia etc and who has not been detected by our counterintelligence professionals.

Here is one study from the Center for Immigration Studies of immigrants by country of origin, based upon census data (yes, illegal aliens reply to the census takers in huge numbers and they are counted within these numbers):
(snip)

Friday, May 25, 2007
Calling All Counterterrorism Professionals: A Crucial Question For You

http://hughhewitt.townhall.com/g/ef266dd7-0686-44b1-bd29-27b5cd792bdb

Posted by Hugh Hewitt | 9:16 PM
Perhaps I am wrong. I have been many times, and I am always ready to admit it upon hearing a better argument or facts previously unknown to me.

I do not see how it could possibly be a wise thing to grant probationary status to the tens of thousands —at least— of illegal immigrants in the country who hail from countries with long standing terrorist networks and demonstrated jihadist-friendly populations. This seems to me to be the same thing as welcoming into our country tens of thousands of German, Italian and Japanese nationals in 1944 provided their fingerprints didn’t show up in any database.


8 posted on 06/04/2007 6:31:33 AM PDT by Valin (History takes time. It is not an instant thing.)
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To: Bodhi1
I thought the left defined anyone to the right of Hillary with a gun as a homegrown terrorist.

The rest are just 'misunderstood insurgents'...

/sarc, sorta.

9 posted on 06/04/2007 6:38:21 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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To: Valin
(seriously)

Should we be alert? Absolutly!

You bet, the bush adminstration is planning on relocating thousands of iraqis here in the US................

10 posted on 06/04/2007 6:42:01 AM PDT by WhiteGuy (GOP Congress - 16,000 earmarks costing US $50 billion in 2006 - PAUL2008)
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To: WhiteGuy

Oh yes you are absolutly correct, as all right thinking yankee doddle dandy Americans know all these iraqis (being Muzzies) want to oppress us and destroy our nation, that’s why they are fighting and dying along side Americans in Iraq. It’s all part of the giant PLOT.


11 posted on 06/04/2007 6:49:02 AM PDT by Valin (History takes time. It is not an instant thing.)
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To: Valin
Oh yes you are absolutely correct, as all right thinking yankee doddle dandy Americans know all these iraqis (being Muzzies) want to oppress us and destroy our nation, that’s why they are fighting and dying along side Americans in Iraq. It’s all part of the giant PLOT.

A rather weak attempt at sarcasm don't you think?

You may disregard the threat to Americans by iraqis if you wish. It might make more sense however to put Americans and OUR country first.

12 posted on 06/04/2007 6:55:45 AM PDT by WhiteGuy (GOP Congress - 16,000 earmarks costing US $50 billion in 2006 - PAUL2008)
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To: Bodhi1

The left favors all kinds of terrorism, blaming it on “have nots rising up against haves”, or some other such nonsense.
This whole domestic terrorism thing will be suppressed by the leftist-oriented media until more than 20 deaths appear, then they will blame it on Abu Ghraib, Bush, “hate crimes” against members of the ideology of death and destruction, or some other such nonsense.
I don’t know what it will take to turn this country around so that it eliminates the terrorist threat. NO - I know what it will take, but I don’t think it will get done.


13 posted on 06/04/2007 6:57:29 AM PDT by Leftism is Mentally Deranged
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To: WhiteGuy
You may disregard the threat to Americans by iraqis if you wish. It might make more sense however to put Americans and OUR country first.

Why does one counter-act the other?

14 posted on 06/04/2007 7:04:29 AM PDT by Valin (History takes time. It is not an instant thing.)
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To: Valin
...why they are fighting and dying along side Americans in Iraq...

They are merely using our support to thrash the opposing factions. If you follow troop interviews, you would learn that our troops do not trust their Iraqi counterparts.

15 posted on 06/04/2007 8:15:01 AM PDT by GingisK
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To: GingisK

And I’m sure we can both find links to support our position.

That sad fact is when I was in I worked with or knew guys that I wonuldn’t trust as far as I could spit.


16 posted on 06/04/2007 8:31:42 AM PDT by Valin (History takes time. It is not an instant thing.)
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To: Valin

Yeah, me too. The door really swings both ways. Points well made, well taken.


17 posted on 06/04/2007 9:34:48 AM PDT by GingisK
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