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To: nj26

It is a good thing we don’t have a plebiscite. President Bush and the Congress are trying to do the best they can with a problem not amenable to slogans.


15 posted on 06/02/2007 10:46:55 AM PDT by shrinkermd
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To: shrinkermd
Destroying respect for the law, and the Presidency, and Senate are not good things.

They should try enforcing existing laws, first, and inversely allocating visas, trade bennies, foreign "aid" by country on the number of their illegal exports choking our prisons, health, and educational systems.

We don't need people that fail to respect our laws. We don't need to alienate those that have followed our laws by rewarding ne'er-do-wells.

Reunite the families by shipping the illegals back.

We don't need to eliminate the exceptional skills visas either,

33 posted on 06/02/2007 11:31:25 AM PDT by Calvin Locke
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To: shrinkermd
President Bush and the Congress are trying to do the best they can with a problem not amenable to slogans.

No, they are not. The simplest and best solution to the problem is to enforce the laws on the books. It is right, proper, just, and understandable. It is also easy to justify, easy to explain, and easy to carry out.

What they want is to find a way to avoid doing just that, yet not lose too much power and influence in the process. THAT is what is problematic, and not amenable to sloganeering. They get no sympathy from me. They merely earn my scorn.

115 posted on 06/02/2007 7:40:29 PM PDT by Teacher317
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To: shrinkermd

Nonsense...if the President intended to slow the immigration even a little, he could fine employers big time and make them responsible for medical care for the illegals they hire. We don’t have to send them home; they would go home if the job market dried up. If we were serious about enforcing the law, the border would have been secured first. They will give amnesty to these people including gang members and no border security will ever be implemented.

In a few years, we will have at least 40 million-then they will want to give another amnesty. Our country will resemble a third world hell hole by them. You should see what has happened to some of the smaller neighborhoods in Georgia.

This bill is about getting cheap labor (really slave labor) for the Republicans and permanent majority status for the democrats. President Bush really believes in this-no doubt. However, he is wrong!!! Also, I think at the end of a term any president is looking for a legacy-unfortunately this legacy will be the demise of the Republican Party. I will not vote for anyone who supports this bill which means I won’t vote for Chambliss or for Isakson. I fully expect Georgia will have two Democrat Senators in the near future. Isakson is hiding out. Chambliss was heckled even in South Georgia where he is/was very popular. Peggy Noonan is correct; President Bush has torn the Republican Party asunder. I don’t know how you can put the pieces back together if this bill passes. I do know that I will change my party affiliation to Independent. If Rove thinks the base has no choice and must vote Republican, he is in for a very hard lesson in 2008.


363 posted on 06/05/2007 7:17:28 AM PDT by nyconse
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