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1 posted on 06/02/2007 10:22:53 AM PDT by nj26
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Karl Rove, Mr. Bush’s top political adviser, said Friday he was confident that the White House would win over its critics as it explained the details of the bill and the administration’s continuing efforts to enforce existing border control laws.

Is this the same Karl Rove that was confident that the Republicans were going to hold on to the House and Senate in the mid-term elections?

62 posted on 06/02/2007 1:00:57 PM PDT by L.N. Smithee (Has George W. Bush been taking Carter's Little Pills?)
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It does not test the base. It (Bush’s attitude and stance)
causes his formerly loyal base to accept reality and evaporate in the face of the President's ideological abandonment and flagrant disrespect by the less than articulate President, who had no difficulty in eloquently scorning his most loyal supporters..

Bush is now a President without a cushion of support from people who both elected him and supported him and his ideas, albeit sometimes questionable, through thick and thin.
The President is an injured knee without a miniscus. He is walking shakingly on the high wire without a net.
This is very dangerous for an individual who is far from adept at explaining his rationale for almost anything.
It should be noted that the President's term of office is not done, and it is not a plesant thought to be alone without the support of your party. whilst one trys to manouevour through the rocks and shoals of politics. All of the temporary Teddy Kennedy's will not take the place of a loyal party support. Those voters and contributors who through an almost chemical ephemeral connection comforted Bush, have left the field in cold fury and grave disappointment. They will never return, having been sufficiently burned so that their distrust is manifest. Goodbye George Bush, we are looking for a real leader, and it is not you. On a personal note, my paternal Grandfather would speak of the harsh times before he came to the United States and of the predations visited on him by the Czar. Whenever he mentioned that despotic Monarch, he would turn his head and spit. I laughingly did the same thing yesterday after conversation brought George W. Bush's name to my lips. It was NOT an unconfortable action.

71 posted on 06/02/2007 1:47:00 PM PDT by Gideon Reader (DEMOCRATS: Not quite American, and proud of it! Palestinians are,...well,... Palestinian.)
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The president’s brother, Jeb Bush, and his former campaign manager, Ken Mehlman, wrote an Op-Ed article in The Wall Street Journal pleading the case for the legislation, lamenting that the debate, “has led many close personal and ideological friends — people we respect and whose criticism we take seriously — to oppose new rules governing how people enter this country and how we handle those who are here illegally. But we hope our friends reconsider.” http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Columba_Bush

Columba Bush (born August 17, 1953) is the wife of former Florida Governor Jeb Bush and the sister-in-law of President George W. Bush.

Columba was born as Columba Garnica Gallo in León, Guanajuato, Mexico, where she grew up and attended high school. Her parents were Jose Maria Garnica, a migrant worker, and Josefina (or Josephina) Gallo. She met Jeb Bush in 1971 in León while he was teaching English as part of a foreign exchange program. They were married on February 23, 1974, in Austin, Texas. [1]) The couple have three children: George P. Bush, Noelle Bush, and Jeb Bush, Jr., the three "little brown ones" fondly mentioned by President George H. W. Bush in 1988.

She made headlines in June 1999 when she misled U.S. Customs officials about $19,000 in new clothing and jewelry she brought into the country because she didn't want her husband to know how much she had spent on a five-day Paris shopping trip.

72 posted on 06/02/2007 1:49:19 PM PDT by radar101 (Dream Team--Hunter&Thompson)
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Deportation is the ONLY solution.

An American Expat in Southeast Asia

82 posted on 06/02/2007 2:23:09 PM PDT by expatguy (http://laotze.blogspot.com/)
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Bush was clear on his position on illegal immigration before he even took office in 2000, so this, in reality is not a surprise nor a disappointment to me. Bush’s position was expected by me. What is disappointing is to have a Republican minority in both Houses at this time. They would have stopped it. The voter roll call pre-2006 shows that.

But now, all the Republicans can do is try and stuff it with some pork for their respective districts and states and let is sail through.

89 posted on 06/02/2007 2:39:39 PM PDT by avacado
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This is only a test? Sorry, no backsies.


90 posted on 06/02/2007 2:42:44 PM PDT by Bogtrotter52 (Reading DU daily so you won't hafta)
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"They also noted that the most recent New York Times/CBS News poll showed 66 percent of Republicans supported its legalization provisions."

What an unbelievable, bald faced, steaming load! The question probably read something like (Do you as a Republican think that illegal aliens should be shot on site?) and that translated into supporting legalization.

93 posted on 06/02/2007 2:50:07 PM PDT by Desron13 (If you constantly vote between the lesser of two evils then evil is your ultimate destination.)
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We need to recognize one thing here. Bush is technically correct that it is not amnesty. It is a PRESIDENTAL PARDON and it costs $5,0000. Hell Clinton got over $250,000 per pardon. Low rent Bush.
94 posted on 06/02/2007 2:54:23 PM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Hey Bush! "An Inconvenient Truth" you insulted me in a manner that you will not be forgiven for.)
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From the article:

White House officials said [the backlash] had led them to engage the blogosphere in a concerted way for the first time, posting defenses on liberal and conservative sites.

I think I would have known about that if it had been done openly, but aside from Hugh Hewitt I'm not aware of any overt defenses being posted.

And, I don't think Karl Rove has a DailyKos diary.

Were these defenses posted covertly? Someone should look into whether any laws were broken if that's the case.

98 posted on 06/02/2007 3:21:08 PM PDT by lonewacko_dot_com (http://lonewacko.com/blog)
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The NYT is wishful thinking if it believes the current irrational tone on FR represents the majority of the conservative“base”. Half of the people posting here will probably disappear once the bill is killed and the borders are left wide open for several more years.
100 posted on 06/02/2007 4:03:40 PM PDT by Earthdweller (All reality is based on faith in something.)
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102 posted on 06/02/2007 4:25:15 PM PDT by Afronaut (Press 2 for English - Thanks Mr. President !)
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103 posted on 06/02/2007 4:32:28 PM PDT by Gritty (Half of all illegals broke into a nation at war with borders on permanent "orange" alert-Mark Steyn)
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White House officials said it had led them to engage the blogosphere in a concerted way for the first time, posting defenses on liberal and conservative sites.

Ping

105 posted on 06/02/2007 4:39:21 PM PDT by eyespysomething
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It's funny Rush Limbuagh used to talk about how Bush was going to destroy the democrat political machine. Seems like Rush was wrong. Bush is out to destroy the Conservative base which consists of his most ardent and loyal support group any president could have ever dreamed of having.

Heck, I have prayed for the President, given money for his campaigns, stood side by side with him even to the point that some family members grew agitated with my unyeilding support.

But, this amnesty debacle ssure screams of the worst legislation ever to be thrust upon the American Citizens without any care or respect for us.

106 posted on 06/02/2007 6:35:00 PM PDT by harpo11
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Perhaps Jorge and his stooges in Congress will actually learn from reading the NY Slimes that the "future serfs" don't intend to roll over for the 2007 Shamnesty.

This is going to make Harriet M and Dubai fiascos look like a day at the beach.

BUILD THE FENCE NOW!

109 posted on 06/02/2007 7:27:17 PM PDT by Agent Smith (Fallujah delenda est. (I wish))
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"Bush’s most stalwart...grass-roots backers...and...supporters, who have generally stood with him through the toughest patches of his presidency....view him as pursuing amnesty for foreign law breakers when he should be focusing on border security."

That is the first time the New York Times has said anything that has the ring of truth and actually makes sense. I know it's only an observation, but I didn't think those people were capable of clear, honest--not to mention accurate--observation.

Maybe they had a transient moment of ludicity...

Naaaaaaaaaaah. It's like the clock that's not working.

111 posted on 06/02/2007 7:31:35 PM PDT by Savage Beast (A great civilization is not conquered from without until it has destroyed itself from within.~Durant)
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Bush is officially a failed leader, a tragic joke of a president. He has destroyed the Republican Party and dealt a mortal wound to this nation by refusing to enforce existing immigration laws and then calling those who called him on his gross incompetence, racists.

I don't know what we do now. We're in a he** of a fix.

112 posted on 06/02/2007 7:32:57 PM PDT by JCEccles (“Politics ain’t beanbag” Finley Peter Dunne)
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"The fearful build walls; the confident demolish them." - George Bush, June 1999
117 posted on 06/02/2007 7:40:42 PM PDT by my_pointy_head_is_sharp (We're living in the Dark Ages.)
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Mr. Bush’s comments to federal law enforcement trainees in Georgia on Tuesday, in which he took the rare step of going after conservative critics in terms usually reserved for Democrats, has charged the Republican ferment, specifically his suggestion that those opposed to the plan “don’t want to do what’s right for America.”

Presidential aides said later that Mr. Bush did not mean to impugn anyone’s patriotism, and that he had ad-libbed the line during a passionate address on an issue he holds dear.


Hmm... You know, it seems that this ad-lib of Bush's just points out how he really feels about those of us who are against this bill. The presidential aides coming to his defense in saying he didn't stick to the script just says to me that he isn't being honest when he does.
118 posted on 06/02/2007 7:40:44 PM PDT by LibertyRocks (Liberty Rocks Blog: http://libertyrocks.wordpress.com)
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Another part of the article;

"White House officials said it had led them to engage the blogosphere in a concerted way for the first time, posting defenses on liberal and conservative sites."


I guess some of us were right in the assumption that some posters who have joined us recently really ARE plants from the administration. With this revelation they can't pretend that they don't know why we are upset... Makes me wonder about some of the newer posters who've been so disrespectful when replying to some of my posts the last few days. Their attitude IS the same as these in our government pushing for Amnesty -- they AREN'T merely citizens who disagree, they are political operatives who are as out of touch as their bosses.
123 posted on 06/02/2007 7:46:05 PM PDT by LibertyRocks (Liberty Rocks Blog: http://libertyrocks.wordpress.com)
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