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To: jveritas; jrooney; Oklahoma; mtntop3; B. Chezwick; Just mythoughts; NordP

The basic premise of the haters is wrong.

President Bush didn’t call people unpatriotic. Laura Ingraham claimed that’s what his words meant. She’s great when she’s right, she’s horrible when she’s wrong.

But now it’s been picked up by the haters as their excuse to go DU on President Bush. And that includes hundreds of FReepers who have now been added to the weight against this President. DU has won. Move On has won. Soros. Michael Moore. Rosie. Pelosi. The Congressional Black Caucus. The would-be impeachers like CONyers have won.

He believes in his approach to the illegal immigration crisis. He believes it’s right for America. He’s trying to advance it. So he turns around a phrase and says, “if you don’t want to do what’s right for America, you can find something wrong with this bill and you can defeat it”. How inartfully put! But it’s no more than a President who believes in his approach and is overreaching and inartful, rhetorically speaking.

I knew when he said it that it wasn’t meant to accuse me, who opposes his bill and who supports Duncan Hunter, of wanting to do what’s wrong for America. It was only his attempt to say that in his view this bill is vital for America, to kill it would be bad for America, and please, people, don’t find some part of it so objectionable that you kill the bill.

Bushspeak.

A Bushism.

It was awful, but not for the reason that the profane “F” word throwers are saying.

Doesn’t matter, not here, anyway.
Not anymore.

Truth and fairness are gone.

President Bush is still your President, haters. He’s the only one we’ve got. You just decided you can “unrecognize” him away. Not.

Prediction. Time will come you will long for the days of post 9-11 through today, when he was President. Compared to what’s coming, due in part to your own flailings, hatred and savagings.


371 posted on 06/02/2007 3:17:33 AM PDT by txrangerette (Congressman Duncan Hunter for POTUS...check him out!!)
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To: txrangerette
I appreciate your sentiment but I've got to tell you, I see things differently. I don't view president Bush as my friend or my leader, I view him as my employee.

And when my employees ignore what I have to say and do what they want to do, I get upset.

Now the fact of the matter is, I might be wrong sometimes so I'll always give them a chance to explain to me how I'm making a mistake, but what the Whitehouse is saying isn't that I'm wrong about the issue, they're saying that they don't care what I think about the issue. They are, in my view, proclaiming that my opinion is irrelevant.

Well as I'm sure you can imagine, I disagree.

All people in government are in favor of the government making decisions without having to deal with the nuisance of the "will of the people". That's fine on the left where they think that people are too stupid to make their own decisions anyway. But on the right, they at least have to pretend to care about what we think or we interpret it as a violation of principle. That's what's going on here in my view.

The whitehouse, and the supporters of this amnesty simply couldn't care less what "we the people" want. they see some small advantage for themselves and they're going for it, on the assumption that the mainstream media will berate us into forgetting about it by election time.

Well I won't forget. MY checkbook and I will be very active this election year. and I'm making a list and checking it twice. And those who vote yes on this bill can count on me supporting their opponents.

374 posted on 06/02/2007 4:44:29 AM PDT by tcostell (MOLON LABE)
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To: txrangerette
I am grateful for George W Bush being our President.

I disagree with this Immigration Bill.

I'm sorry if there are those that think poorly of me, because when I heard what Laura Ingrahm said, I applauded her for saying it. When she said give us--your base--that disagree with you, the same courtesies you extend to those on the left (her reference to the "reach across the isle" patience our President offers those as horrible as Pelosi, Murtha, Kennedy...and the like); I thought she expressed something I was feeling inside....no hate--simply stating a request to be heard with the same kind ears he has for those others we all disagree with.

I love this President, and I can disagree with him and still back his positions on other matters. I would never consider myself a hater...just confused as to why his heart is taking him to a place I cannot follow.

Perhaps this is your feeling, too, txrangerette?

384 posted on 06/02/2007 7:03:32 AM PDT by NordP (The greatest gift God can give us is LIFE. The greatest gift man can give to another is FREEDOM.)
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To: txrangerette

Excellent post. You hit all the points very well. I am impressed. Thank you for the ping.


390 posted on 06/02/2007 7:53:10 AM PDT by jrooney (The democrats are the friend of our enemy and the enemy of our friends. Attack them, not GW!)
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To: txrangerette
...have won...have won...have won...What you fail to grasp TXrangerette is that this is NOT a game to be won or lost. Just because we have a Repub president does NOT mean the world is great. Bush has screwed the party base, but just the fact that we have a “repub” president seems to be enough for you and a very few other remaining BushBots here on FR.
398 posted on 06/02/2007 8:34:02 AM PDT by devane617 (Stop Illegal Immigration. Call your Senator today. Senate Switchboard at 202-224-3121.)
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To: txrangerette; jveritas; All
This Immigration Bill is a bad idea.

It serves no true good purpose. Unless of course you are an illegal immigrant.

That is not a reason to hate President Bush, or illegal immigrants.

I’ve read as much as I have had time to read, and I have perused this entire thread (almost 400 posts)as well as others.

I am confounded at just what part of the word “illegal” is not being comprehended here.

Where is the logic in ignoring Laws that were designed to protect us in so many diverse ways?

402 posted on 06/02/2007 8:40:51 AM PDT by Radix (Lighting a flame to dead leaves, and inhaling the toxic vapors associated is pretty dumb.)
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To: txrangerette

I think that those of you who immediately jump the defense of the President, and condemn the emotional steam letting that is going on in the forum and talk radio do not understand what is happening with the conservative movement.

For years we’ve had to keep our mouth shut. Defending the President even through garbage like Medicare boondoggles, No Child Left Behind, Campaign Finance Reform, Harriet Miers, accusing us of “not wanting to do certain jobs”, appointments of unqualified cronies to important positions, and so forth.

Most of us do not feel President Bush is “one of us”, EXCEPT for the War on Terror, which has trumped all else for most of us. The Supreme Court appointees have been great as well, but unfortunately we saw cronyism in full display with Miers.

And then he had the gall to perform a Clintonesque lecture TO HIS OWN BASE. When he doesn’t have the guts to do that with his opponents on the left.

Ms. Noonan was 100% correct. We have felt like a gaggle of battered wives. This is just one beating too much.


425 posted on 06/02/2007 10:48:13 AM PDT by rom (17" MacBook Pro. 30" Cinema Display. 1 Happy Programmer.)
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To: txrangerette

Your comments are perceptive and should be well-received by any thinking person.

Loyalty, honor and consistency are not casually changed on a day-by-day basis of whim and barometric pressure.


596 posted on 06/02/2007 8:08:31 PM PDT by mtntop3
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