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Peggy Noonan and The WSJ Editorial - It's Time to Revolt!
Red State ^ | June 1, 2007

Posted on 06/01/2007 5:41:16 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued

However, now I do not feel alone. Peggy Noonan has a new column up in the Wall Street Journal Opinion Journal. She has clearly said what has been getting me down. I think I knew what was up, but couldn't put a finger on it. I knew it centered around the immigration debate, and the way our congressional leaders are behaving. That sentiment especially includes Mr. Bush too, but when I read this column, I felt like Charlie Brown yelling at Lucy at her Psychology booth when he yells, "That's it!" when trying to identify why he can't get into the Christmas spirit.

Try this clip on for size :

The White House doesn't need its traditional supporters anymore, because its problems are way beyond being solved by the base. And the people in the administration don't even much like the base. Desperate straits have left them liberated, and they are acting out their disdain. Leading Democrats often think their base is slightly mad but at least their heart is in the right place. This White House thinks its base is stupid and that its heart is in the wrong place.

For almost three years, arguably longer, conservative Bush supporters have felt like sufferers of battered wife syndrome. You don't like endless gushing spending, the kind that assumes a high and unstoppable affluence will always exist, and the tax receipts will always flow in? Too bad! You don't like expanding governmental authority and power? Too bad. You think the war was wrong or is wrong? Too bad.

But on immigration it has changed from "Too bad" to "You're bad."

The president has taken to suggesting that opponents of his immigration bill are unpatriotic--they "don't want to do what's right for America." His ally Sen. Lindsey Graham has said,

(Excerpt) Read more at redstate.com ...


TOPICS: Editorial; Mexico; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: amnesty; bbs; bds; crimaliens; deathofthegop; holierthanthou; illegalimmigrants; immigrantlist; invasion; noamnestyforillegals; noonan; peggyisrighton; zerovisa
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To: SerpentDove

If you think we are nationally a distinct minority on this issue, it is you who needs to get a clue.


661 posted on 06/03/2007 1:11:17 AM PDT by B. Chezwick (It is every true Christian's duty to defend Israel with their very life.)
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To: SerpentDove

If the jack boot fits...


662 posted on 06/03/2007 1:12:30 AM PDT by B. Chezwick (It is every true Christian's duty to defend Israel with their very life.)
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To: B. Chezwick

>>If the jack boot fits...
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???

Please limit your posts to intelligent ones.


663 posted on 06/03/2007 1:17:03 AM PDT by SerpentDove (Club liberals, not seals.)
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To: Dane
And who is this singular "person", America? If I may ask.

I'm sorry, I should have been more specific. I mean "America" the nation state, formally known as the United States of America. Not "America" the dominant element of the North American intra-national economic system. A subtle difference, to be sure, and many people fail to realize that their long term goals are not always parallel.

664 posted on 06/03/2007 4:33:28 AM PDT by Steel Wolf (If every Republican is a RINO, then no Republican is a RINO.)
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To: AuntB

Well said!!!!


665 posted on 06/03/2007 4:42:03 AM PDT by Guenevere (Duncan Hunter for President, 2008!!)
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To: my_pointy_head_is_sharp

Actually, I am mad as hell with Bush about the boarders and the spending the GOP has done while in charge. However, when you read posts here it’s easy to see the DU’s are here fueling the fire against GW and many people are falling for it. Maybe the DU’s should be watching the dems as they load the pork into the spending bills........

I’m all for expressing our displeasure with our administration........ but I also remember Reagan’s 11 commandment!


666 posted on 06/03/2007 4:43:25 AM PDT by runvus (RUNVUS)
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To: Clintonfatigued
At the risk of sounding disloyal, I’ll be glad when Bush leaves office.

It's like my father said a while back, G.W. Bush = LBJ II, sad to say that I agree with him there as time goes on. I know LBJ's immigration policies along with the help of Ted Kennedy and so on, caused a lot of this mess we've had for the last 40 years and President Bush wants to do the same thing.
667 posted on 06/03/2007 4:46:53 AM PDT by Nowhere Man ("Paint me something patriotic, like, The Confederate Flag!" - Wolf, from "Blackboard Jumble")
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To: PghBaldy
I voted for him in 2004, and wore buttons and t-shirts daily. I was shocked by the visceral hatred of the left and supported Bush even more, even when increasingly he let me down. I now just wish he could try talking TO us and not AT us. I guess I am a Bush Democrat, and have gotten more and more conservative as the Republicans have gotten more and more liberal. It really is bizarro world. Now, I cringe when he discusses immigration. I am sick of Spanish everywhere, and criminals marching by the thousands demanding things I don’t even have (amnesty for crime). It would be better if he stopped talking about immigration. He just upsets the base more with his arrogant smears.

I'm the same way myself. We are even seeing some of it here in Pittsburgh, IIRC, you're from Pittsburgh too. Mom the other day had to make a call at work to a customer and she got Spanish on the answering machine. She didn't understand it at all but she did leave the message. Boy, she was livid! I know myself, I consider myself a social conservative, not a fiscal one, so actually I'm a split, I guess in other times I'd be a right wing populist to an FDR Democrat but I think no matter what, it seems like both parties really don't listen at all. The Republicans want the cheap labor and the Democrats want the dependent underclass for their votes.

President Bush on the war, I'd give him a B. There are things I would have done differently and with more force but overall, it has been handled OK although recently, we are starting to lose focus. Domestically, I'd give him a C and Immigration gets an F.

I feel I have no real place to go, certainly not the Democrats, they are too "McGovernized" with the socially liberal and anti-war moonbats and the Republicans are really not for me but for the rich (altohugh the Dems have their rich base too, we need to be fair) in general.
668 posted on 06/03/2007 5:07:00 AM PDT by Nowhere Man ("Paint me something patriotic, like, The Confederate Flag!" - Wolf, from "Blackboard Jumble")
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To: Clintonfatigued
Peggy Noonan is right. The GOP establishment did not learn anything from the 2006 elections.

Incorrect

They learned they barely lost majorities in both houses of Congress. It is time to pick new leadership for the Republican Party, starting at the top. George Bush has failed to successfully lead the country and is now a lame duck.

669 posted on 06/03/2007 5:09:48 AM PDT by af_vet_1981 (Waiting for Samson)
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To: RichardMoore

Exactly right. There’s a big picture and most don’t have a clue. Nobody would advocate open borders in time of war unless he had integration with Mexico/points south/Canada in mind.


670 posted on 06/03/2007 5:15:23 AM PDT by hershey
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To: Elsiejay

Bingo.


671 posted on 06/03/2007 5:16:15 AM PDT by hershey
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To: RichardMoore

(As for China, don’t brush your teeth with toothpaste made in China....mostly sold in low cost stores and most have Japanese sounding names. It’s contaminated. As were the petfoods they tampered with and God only knows what else they ship over here.)


672 posted on 06/03/2007 5:21:35 AM PDT by hershey
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To: GinaLolaB

I’m a Jeff Sessions fan. (Big smile here.)


673 posted on 06/03/2007 5:22:26 AM PDT by hershey
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To: Scarchin

Heard over the radio that NH still doesn’t have to fasten seatbelts, although your gov. was signing gay union rights into law...Wasn’t there a movement to eliminate ‘Live Free or Die’ from license plates? Hope that went down in flames.


674 posted on 06/03/2007 5:25:54 AM PDT by hershey
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To: WalterSkinner

Last night I watched MSNBC -— Russert’s liberal/dem journalist panel discussing Republicans running for President. (They tiptoed through the Hillary Iowa mine field...nobody dared mention the four letter word that starts with L. Lose.) As for Mitt/McCain/Rudy etc., they clearly don’t think any has a chance. Mitt was described as a ‘robot’ candidate, too good to be real. McCain is self-destructing. (Hunter they didn’t mention.) Rudy’s marital mess evoked low voices...Andrea Mitchell was saddened about obvious bitterness at the family’s recent Princeton graduation.

Fred Thompson...well, he’s ‘no RR’, as the ‘conservative base will soon realize’. No hope there. Besides, he’s ‘lazy, has nothing substantive on his senate record’, and he also has that young wife and two small children, which they seemed to think would distract him from serious business. Just an actor. So that’s that according to Russert’s Liberal experts. (I can hardly wait to see them eat their words.)


675 posted on 06/03/2007 5:41:32 AM PDT by hershey
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To: abigailsmybaby

Michelle Malkin on O’Reilly a few nights ago made a suggestion that Americans might believe GW was serious about enforcing the border if he deported the 600,000 plus illegals already incarcerated. O’Reilly had to admit that was a good point. (As always, Michelle was terrific.)


676 posted on 06/03/2007 5:46:11 AM PDT by hershey
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To: Daveinyork
I am not against free trade. But we don't have free trade with anyone and we haven't in a very long time. The Republican Party through TR was always in favor of protecting American Jobs.

Leading up to WWI England did not protect their industrial base while Germany and the USA maintained it. The result was that England was weak and Germany was able to take advantage of them. We are fast approaching that situation with China.

And I say again we don't have free trade with China or anyone for that matter at the present time.

677 posted on 06/03/2007 5:51:44 AM PDT by RichardMoore (gohunter08.com)
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To: jveritas

Why is it a good thing to enable Mexico to ethnic cleanse itself of its native Indian population, the bottom quarter of its citizery, those they can’t be bothered to educate and care for? Whole villages stand empty, and the flight north is increasing. This can’t be good for Mexico or anyone else. (You don’t have to be Einstein to know who benefits.) Mexicans/whoever who come for jobs, a better life...dream of living in a country resembling Mexico in every way but corruption/violence/illiteracy. Assimilation isn’t on their list. They want greater Mexico, the Spanish culture and language, and most want a socialist agenda. Some even demand reparations and taking over the southwest, including Colorado. When they get the vote, and they will, what’s to stop them from achieving the whole enchilada?


678 posted on 06/03/2007 6:13:55 AM PDT by hershey
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To: jveritas

Where is the incentive for positive change in Mexico? They kick out those most like to head revolution, in fact handing them maps of the border, even telling them to head for Canada....”Canada, hey, you need cheap labor!” A few rich families will continue to buy up real estate and control whatever’s left in Mexico. What’s to stop the drug lords and the violence that’s spilling over the border? The beheadings of police and the rape and murder of hundreds of Mexican women. This is a culture disconnect about to land in our lap.


679 posted on 06/03/2007 6:21:04 AM PDT by hershey
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To: Hostage

Plain speaking, honesty to the point of bluntness...that’s what the voters are looking for and desperately need. If Fred lays it all out in policy papers and/or speeches, what’s going on, what he thinks we should do, calls for input...even if the pill is bitter, if we’re convinced it’s right, we’ll take it. One big problem with this ‘amnesty’ bill is Ted Kennedy. If he’s in favor of anything, you automatically distrust it. Or should.

Fred Barnes on Fox’s Beltway Boys last night said GW had lambasted Kyl, repub. sen. from Arizona, who’d been against the last immigration nightmare bill, but when he’d seen ground zero in Arizona, had decided we had to do something — the border was out of control —so he’d worked on this bill and gotten more concessions from Ted Kennedy than he’d given up. Well, Fred’s in favor of the bill.


680 posted on 06/03/2007 6:37:34 AM PDT by hershey
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