Posted on 06/01/2007 5:41:16 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued
However, now I do not feel alone. Peggy Noonan has a new column up in the Wall Street Journal Opinion Journal. She has clearly said what has been getting me down. I think I knew what was up, but couldn't put a finger on it. I knew it centered around the immigration debate, and the way our congressional leaders are behaving. That sentiment especially includes Mr. Bush too, but when I read this column, I felt like Charlie Brown yelling at Lucy at her Psychology booth when he yells, "That's it!" when trying to identify why he can't get into the Christmas spirit.
Try this clip on for size :
The White House doesn't need its traditional supporters anymore, because its problems are way beyond being solved by the base. And the people in the administration don't even much like the base. Desperate straits have left them liberated, and they are acting out their disdain. Leading Democrats often think their base is slightly mad but at least their heart is in the right place. This White House thinks its base is stupid and that its heart is in the wrong place.
For almost three years, arguably longer, conservative Bush supporters have felt like sufferers of battered wife syndrome. You don't like endless gushing spending, the kind that assumes a high and unstoppable affluence will always exist, and the tax receipts will always flow in? Too bad! You don't like expanding governmental authority and power? Too bad. You think the war was wrong or is wrong? Too bad.
But on immigration it has changed from "Too bad" to "You're bad."
The president has taken to suggesting that opponents of his immigration bill are unpatriotic--they "don't want to do what's right for America." His ally Sen. Lindsey Graham has said,
(Excerpt) Read more at redstate.com ...
You’re surprised he called you Unpatriotic for not agreeing with him?
That has been the MO all along. Being surprised about it now is a little late in the game.
LOL!!! They still haven't built the fence that was supposed to be built last year -- 700 miles. THIS immigration bill calls for only 370 miles of fence. Only 370 miles!!!
And even if they really built this fence, which is highly doubtful, given they didn't even come close to building the fence they approved last year, do you really think 370 miles of it is going to do ANYTHING?
On the other hand, if they were really serious about enforcement, and smart about it, why not just pass a border security bill first, put up the fence, deploy more border patrol, and then demonstrate over the period of a year or two that their enforcement measures are really working?
Once they demonstrated irrefutably that this enormous flood of illegals has finally been stemmed, I believe a great many of us skeptics would be more than willing to explore some kind of guest worker program and pathway to citizenship. I know I would.
If the bill passes hundreds of thousands will immediately cross the border before the enforcement is in place in order to make a false application of wait until the next amnesty coms along. remember the last one was touted as a one time deal, the senators aren't even suggesting this would be a one time deal so we can expect them to try another amnesty in 20 years when this one fails.
Until the President of the US gets up and tells the illegals to go home and that no more should come they will be prosecuted everything else is just BS and if you can see W doing that I have a bridge to sell you. He’s more interested in prosecuting Border Patrol Agents for doing their job.He hasn’t enforced our laws and will not start now. Someone else has to have a mandate and that will not happen until 2008 or later.
“Well they are not the last of a long line of enemies but all in God’s time.”
Are these your thoughts or are they God’s thoughts? Are you speaking for God or yourself?
911 was our wake up call. The events of 911 did not direct us to go to Iraq to create a democracy. The horror of 911 directed us to fight muslim jihadists on all shores. Meanwhile, currently we are stalemated in Iraq after accomplishing our original mission to remove Saddam. And meantime, the muslim jihadists continue to wreak havoc upon the world.
Well, the only world important to me is America. Let’s secure our own borders. And once we have that mission accomplished, then maybe we can see about creating a democracy in Iraq and protecting her borders. I offer this since our bureaucrats seem to have no interest in advancing the war on terror beyond Iraq.
So until they can focus on worldwide terrorism, we should get our priorities straight. America comes first, Iraq second.
He’s got his minion, Linda Chavez doing his dirty work for him.
Check out her blog of May 25. You want to talk bigotted, take a gander there.
We as a nation have as our standard that we are endowed by the Creator with unalienable Rights..... that separates US from the rest of the world. Our nation is unlike any nation in all of recorded history, we have been blessed and protected. What I said to you about things being on God's time comes from His instruction Book, He is in control and things are happening just as He foretold they would.
Iraq at 911 was up to Saddam's eyeballs in the promotion of terror, and it was Saddam that refused to follow the agreement he signed a dozen years earlier. Saddam had a plan and he was using whomever he needed to fulfill his plan, terrorists included. Of course there were nations all to willing to use Saddam for their own purposes (future enemies).
The war against the barbaric terrorizing killers is global, Iraq is now the sand pit that calls so many to come join the fight because they believe they can destroy US, and our liberal/socialists leaders here in the US are doing their part to assist them.
If these lunatic terrorists killer take charge of Iraq's oil fields it won't be but a couple of years they will be far more dangerous than they are now. That is our national security issue in Iraq more than anything else....
Our borders remain to be an issue that no matter what is done in the near future we still have many millions of new inhabitants on our soil. There are some in this world that would love to use this as a boiling point for blood letting in our cities and towns. Now I do not know if wiser heads will prevail and the lunatics held in check, I pray that be the case.
Regardless of Peggy’s motives, she is telling the truth....so don’t shoot the messenger.
You say it’s wrong to criticize a president when we are at war.
Did you feel the same way about Clinton when we were fighting the Serbs and helping the radical Muslims in Kosovo?
Or during Carter’s years, when we warred against various countries?
Did you feel it was wrong to criticize Carter and Clinton because we were at war then, and they, too, were our Commanders-in-chief?
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Now you’re actually defending the Clinton administration. There are no depths that Bush haters are unwilling to go.
The basic premise of the haters is wrong.
President Bush didn’t call people unpatriotic. Laura Ingraham claimed that’s what his words meant. She’s great when she’s right, she’s horrible when she’s wrong.
But now it’s been picked up by the haters as their excuse to go DU on President Bush. And that includes hundreds of FReepers who have now been added to the weight against this President. DU has won. Move On has won. Soros. Michael Moore. Rosie. Pelosi. The Congressional Black Caucus. The would-be impeachers like CONyers have won.
He believes in his approach to the illegal immigration crisis. He believes it’s right for America. He’s trying to advance it. So he turns around a phrase and says, “if you don’t want to do what’s right for America, you can find something wrong with this bill and you can defeat it”. How inartfully put! But it’s no more than a President who believes in his approach and is overreaching and inartful, rhetorically speaking.
I knew when he said it that it wasn’t meant to accuse me, who opposes his bill and who supports Duncan Hunter, of wanting to do what’s wrong for America. It was only his attempt to say that in his view this bill is vital for America, to kill it would be bad for America, and please, people, don’t find some part of it so objectionable that you kill the bill.
Bushspeak.
A Bushism.
It was awful, but not for the reason that the profane “F” word throwers are saying.
Doesn’t matter, not here, anyway.
Not anymore.
Truth and fairness are gone.
President Bush is still your President, haters. He’s the only one we’ve got. You just decided you can “unrecognize” him away. Not.
Prediction. Time will come you will long for the days of post 9-11 through today, when he was President. Compared to what’s coming, due in part to your own flailings, hatred and savagings.
Being against doing away with nations is not isolationist, it's just plan common sense.
Let's take this country back!
And when my employees ignore what I have to say and do what they want to do, I get upset.
Now the fact of the matter is, I might be wrong sometimes so I'll always give them a chance to explain to me how I'm making a mistake, but what the Whitehouse is saying isn't that I'm wrong about the issue, they're saying that they don't care what I think about the issue. They are, in my view, proclaiming that my opinion is irrelevant.
Well as I'm sure you can imagine, I disagree.
All people in government are in favor of the government making decisions without having to deal with the nuisance of the "will of the people". That's fine on the left where they think that people are too stupid to make their own decisions anyway. But on the right, they at least have to pretend to care about what we think or we interpret it as a violation of principle. That's what's going on here in my view.
The whitehouse, and the supporters of this amnesty simply couldn't care less what "we the people" want. they see some small advantage for themselves and they're going for it, on the assumption that the mainstream media will berate us into forgetting about it by election time.
Well I won't forget. MY checkbook and I will be very active this election year. and I'm making a list and checking it twice. And those who vote yes on this bill can count on me supporting their opponents.
If he makes any such move, Hunter, Tancredo et al should bring articles of impeachment to the floor that very day.
Ditto! Rather than amnesty, we need a bounty on illegal aliens.
A hundred bucks each for dragging their sorry butts in, dead or alive.
Just another bunch of varmints in need of disposal.
A thoughtful and informed post.
BTTT!
If anyone doubts it have them read Immigration and Usurpation by Fredo Arias-King, the former aide to presidential candidate Vicente Fox.
I wonder if the condescending liberals were right about Bush. Maybe he really is a moron.
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