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Peggy Noonan and The WSJ Editorial - It's Time to Revolt!
Red State ^ | June 1, 2007

Posted on 06/01/2007 5:41:16 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued

However, now I do not feel alone. Peggy Noonan has a new column up in the Wall Street Journal Opinion Journal. She has clearly said what has been getting me down. I think I knew what was up, but couldn't put a finger on it. I knew it centered around the immigration debate, and the way our congressional leaders are behaving. That sentiment especially includes Mr. Bush too, but when I read this column, I felt like Charlie Brown yelling at Lucy at her Psychology booth when he yells, "That's it!" when trying to identify why he can't get into the Christmas spirit.

Try this clip on for size :

The White House doesn't need its traditional supporters anymore, because its problems are way beyond being solved by the base. And the people in the administration don't even much like the base. Desperate straits have left them liberated, and they are acting out their disdain. Leading Democrats often think their base is slightly mad but at least their heart is in the right place. This White House thinks its base is stupid and that its heart is in the wrong place.

For almost three years, arguably longer, conservative Bush supporters have felt like sufferers of battered wife syndrome. You don't like endless gushing spending, the kind that assumes a high and unstoppable affluence will always exist, and the tax receipts will always flow in? Too bad! You don't like expanding governmental authority and power? Too bad. You think the war was wrong or is wrong? Too bad.

But on immigration it has changed from "Too bad" to "You're bad."

The president has taken to suggesting that opponents of his immigration bill are unpatriotic--they "don't want to do what's right for America." His ally Sen. Lindsey Graham has said,

(Excerpt) Read more at redstate.com ...


TOPICS: Editorial; Mexico; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: amnesty; bbs; bds; crimaliens; deathofthegop; holierthanthou; illegalimmigrants; immigrantlist; invasion; noamnestyforillegals; noonan; peggyisrighton; zerovisa
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To: Clintonfatigued

If it continues to become worse, and it will, then “76!”


121 posted on 06/01/2007 7:49:13 PM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: jveritas

...So that is what you want. Impeach the President in times of war and give the terrorists their ultimate victory and make the democrats so very happy. Yep, you are a real Patriot (sarcasm beyond belief)....

President Bush has declared war on the Rule of Law in America and on the Constitution. He should not win that war.


122 posted on 06/01/2007 7:49:24 PM PDT by rolling_stone
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To: Otaku6
I am loyal for a Great President and a Great Leader who is leading our troops in this war on terror to protect our freedom and our way of life. God bless President Bush and our brave troops.

The illegal immigrants who are here are going to stay here, you can jump and scream and yell but no one is going to remove them directly or indirectly, just get it in your head. Give them working visa to be renewed every 3 years with a $ 1,000 fee with no way to citizenship as long as they work here on this working visa and no access to welfare. That is it, that is the only solution. President Bush is very smart and he realized that long time, he campaigned on it in 2 Presidential elections, and won the White House twice.

123 posted on 06/01/2007 7:51:00 PM PDT by jveritas (Support The Commander in Chief in Times of War)
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To: RichardMoore
The difference here is that President Bush signed a bill into law that calls for 857 miles of double fence along the border. This bill seeks to reduce it to 300. So far only 12 miles have been built. President Bush is showing that he doesn’t respect his own signature on a law. What kind of conservative is he?

Bush is NOT a Conservative...he is not even a real Republican!!!

124 posted on 06/01/2007 7:51:55 PM PDT by meema (I am a Conservative Traditional Republican, NOT an elitist, sexist, cynic or right wing extremist!)
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To: PghBaldy

WOW! Thats Full Circle,LOL!


125 posted on 06/01/2007 7:52:38 PM PDT by cmsgop ( "cmsgop" a Mark Goodson / Bill Todman Production)
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To: GinaLolaB
"Bush should quit and let the newly appointed VP take over before it is too late".

It's long been a puzzle to me why this administration hasn't groomed a VP to run for the presidency in '08.

126 posted on 06/01/2007 7:52:54 PM PDT by mickie (God Bless Our Troops)
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To: rolling_stone
The President is protecting our freedom and our way of life from islamic terrorists who want to annihilate you from existence. For you to say that he should not win this war on terror, means without any doubt that you want the terrorists to win. The President did not say that you are UNPATRIOTIC, but I will say it to you. You are not only UNPATRIOTIC but you are a TRAITOR for siding with the terrorists and not wishing us to win this war.
127 posted on 06/01/2007 7:53:24 PM PDT by jveritas (Support The Commander in Chief in Times of War)
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To: jveritas
Yep, you are a real Patriot

What where your active duty dates and branch of service??

128 posted on 06/01/2007 7:53:49 PM PDT by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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To: neverhillorat
..No executive order,the Tancredo Amnesty will still be in effect. Thats what we have cause nothing can get done. Isn`t that wonderful?...

The Old law is better than a disastrous new law. It is much more difficult to repeal a law than it is to block it. In 2008 there will be a different President, he might even decide to enforce our immigration laws unless this pile of garbage is passed which make everyone and their cousin legal (except those waiting patiently for legal visas) Impose a tax and see how hard it is to get it repealed after the govt tastes those dollars at the trough..try repealing amnesty and we may have a war.

129 posted on 06/01/2007 7:55:10 PM PDT by rolling_stone
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To: jveritas

“Was Reagan a traitor for signing the 1986 amnesty bill?”

No, it was a good intentioned mistake.

However as a high IQ guy once said:

“Insanity is making the same mistake expecting different results” (Einstein)


130 posted on 06/01/2007 7:55:33 PM PDT by STE=Q ("Diplomacy is the art of saying 'Nice doggie' until you can find a rock." (Will Rogers))
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To: hinckley buzzard
..it has been Kool-Aid time at the White House

I saw the same behavior in the Clinton administration by his sycophants--despite the evidence, deny and personally attack any accusers...

131 posted on 06/01/2007 7:55:48 PM PDT by WalterSkinner ( ..when there is any conflict between God and Caesar -- guess who loses?)
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To: atomicpossum
“Mr. President, the base is revolting!”

And what did he expect after his "Let then eat Masa" speech

132 posted on 06/01/2007 7:56:23 PM PDT by tophat9000 (Quislingis=traitor, politicians who favor the interests of other nations or cultures over their own)
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To: atomicpossum
“Mr. President, the base is revolting!”

And what did he expect after his "Let them eat Masa" speech

133 posted on 06/01/2007 7:56:40 PM PDT by tophat9000 (Quislingis=traitor, politicians who favor the interests of other nations or cultures over their own)
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To: org.whodat
I have none.

Benedict Arnold was a great General before he turned into a traitor. Please do not bring the military service issue here it is absolutely meaningless in this debate. I stand by my earlier comment.

134 posted on 06/01/2007 7:57:03 PM PDT by jveritas (Support The Commander in Chief in Times of War)
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To: jveritas

Uh please reread my post and if you have difficulty understanding it ask me before you pound the keyboard again. By the way are you the same person who said Bush didn’t call the minutemen “vigilantes”?


135 posted on 06/01/2007 7:57:07 PM PDT by rolling_stone
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To: jveritas

By the way, I don’t like your assuming I’m a Bush hater. The RNC has received almost as much money from me as the NRA has and my Bush-Cheney 2004 coffee mug still sits on my desk at home. I don’t “hate” the man, but I am certainly disappointed and I am incensed at his tarring me by proxy because I don’t think having 12-20 million illegals getting a defacto amnesty is a good idea for my country.


136 posted on 06/01/2007 7:57:13 PM PDT by PeterFinn (Tom Tancredo for President 2008)
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To: Clintonfatigued

This issue is about the republic, not only the base of the party.

BTTT

How about ten or twenty million points of disdain, Mr. President?


137 posted on 06/01/2007 7:57:32 PM PDT by Unknowing (Now is the time for all good men to come to the aid of their country.)
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To: jveritas
I have had enough of Bush and his gang that have driven the RNC off a cliff. The man wants to let 30 million Dems get voting rights . Have I said enough.
138 posted on 06/01/2007 7:58:04 PM PDT by BurtSB (the price of freedom is eternal vigilance)
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To: STE=Q

And President Bush has great and realistic intentions in this illegal immigration bill and does not live in a fantasy world like you people where you see millions of illegal immigrants deported directly or indirectly.


139 posted on 06/01/2007 8:00:05 PM PDT by jveritas (Support The Commander in Chief in Times of War)
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To: jveritas
Are you seriously comparing the hateful and angry rhetoric by you and many other on FR against President Bush with what President Bush said about people who are against the illegal immigration bill? Get real.

Well, I'd have to agree that some of the rhetoric here -- including mine -- is harsher than anything Bush has said.

But Bush DID say that, by opposing this bill, I don't want to do what's right for America. HIS words, not mine. And whether he is questioning my patriotism or not, that is insulting, more insulting to me than Jimmy Carter's "malaise" speech.

And if he is not questioning my patriotism, then why doesn't he just say so? He's always been very careful -- too careful, IMO -- to say he is not questioning the patriotism of Murtha, Reid, Pelosi, Kennedy....

And one more thing we have not touched on. He also said, in that same speech, that by pointing out certain elements of the bill which we find fault with, we are using "scare tactics." So we who disagree with him are fear mongers, as well.

140 posted on 06/01/2007 8:00:37 PM PDT by kevao
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