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When Karl Rove told J.D. Hayworth that he, Hayworth, "just had a problem with brown people"; that pretty much told everyone where Rove & Bush stood on enforcing the immigration laws, deporting illegals and securing the borders. According to Rove, if folks are for enforcing the immigration laws, we are bigots!
1 posted on 05/31/2007 8:53:33 AM PDT by kellynla
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According to Rove, if folks are for enforcing the immigration laws, we are bigots!
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Yes, we know where Bush stands, and therefore where Rove stands on open borders and ILLEGAL immigration. The amount of damage, and the multitude of costs to the REAL AMERICAN CITIZEN, are an atrocity upon this country.


2 posted on 05/31/2007 8:57:37 AM PDT by EagleUSA
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To: kellynla
When Karl Rove told J.D. Hayworth that he, Hayworth, "just had a problem with brown people";

Did he really say that?????

Pretty dumb thing to say.

Of course I'll be the first to say I was only a fair weathered friend of Rove's anyway. The magnificent b*stard stuff went out the windows in 2006 with me and many others who started thinking rightly or wrongly that Rove just got lucky, there wasn't any strategerie at all.

Where's our Lee Atwater?

3 posted on 05/31/2007 8:58:35 AM PDT by Lx (Do you like it, do you like it. Scott? I call it Mr. and Mrs. Tennerman chili.)
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Of course this poll pretty much blows Karl Rove’s “bigot” accusation right out of the Rio Grande!

Comprehensive Immigration Reform II
(70% likely Latino voters support border security first)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1841546/posts


4 posted on 05/31/2007 8:59:56 AM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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Rove you magnificent bastard!
6 posted on 05/31/2007 9:04:10 AM PDT by meandog (Bush--proving himself again and again to be the best friend the Dems have EVER had!)
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“The Bush campaign failed to wage a campaign based on ideology, said Gingrich,”

of course....they didn’t DARE to reveal 2 generations of Bush idealogy.....but it is going to be unmistakably revealed during the last year of baby Bush......America as we have loved it will never recover from it....


10 posted on 05/31/2007 9:07:17 AM PDT by Vn_survivor_67-68
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Whatever, Newt, it worked. Bush only received the most votes ever.

But it was close, and had the Democrats been able to find a good candidate, Bush may have lost.


11 posted on 05/31/2007 9:08:19 AM PDT by Retired Greyhound
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Karl Rove’s political strategy for President Bush’s 2004 re-election campaign was "maniacally dumb,”

Uh, but Newt, Bush won.

12 posted on 05/31/2007 9:11:46 AM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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“Gingrich observed: “All he proved was that the anti-Kerry vote was bigger than the anti-Bush vote.”

Which you can credit to the Swifties. OF course, King George let the Swifties be fined 250k for their efforts.

Screw W and the GOP.


15 posted on 05/31/2007 9:17:14 AM PDT by Bob J (nks)
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Gingrich has a case of the Kerry “I was for it before I was against it.”

I don’t find much in Newts history that doesn’t show he’s been behind the Rove/Bush agenda all along, until recently.

He was 100% behind the amnesty,etc. until it fell out of favor with the public.

In a letter to the WSJ signed with LINDA CHAVEZ, Grover Norquist, Tamar Jacoby, Newt Gingrich, Cesar Conda and others he promoted Bush/Kennedy Amnesty as the only workable approach.

snip] The Wall Street Journal February 6, 2004 Welcome to America

President Bush has proposed a new legal path to work in the U.S. through a temporary worker program that will match willing workers with willing employers. We applaud the president and believe his approach holds great promise to reduce illegal immigration and establish a humane, orderly, and economically sensible approach to migration that will aid homeland security and free up border-security assets to focus on genuine threats. The president has shown courage by calling on Congress to place reality over rhetoric and recognize that those already working here outside the law are unlikely to leave. Congress can fulfill its role by establishing sufficient increases in legal immigration and paths to permanent residence to enable more workers to stay, assimilate, and become part of America.

Immigrants are crucial to our competitiveness and future labor and economic growth, as well as our military strength. Our country’s welcoming attitude to immigrants will permit the U.S. to grow and prosper, as the populations of many other nations stagnate and decline.

Co-authored by Stuart Anderson, Jeff Bell, Linda Chavez, Larry Cirignano, Cesar V. Conda, Francis Fukuyama, Richard Gilder, Newt Gingrich, Ed Goeas, Tamar Jacoby, Jack Kemp, Steve Moore, Grover Norquist, Richard W. Rahn and Malcolm Wallop

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1836137/posts?page=65#65


17 posted on 05/31/2007 9:19:12 AM PDT by AuntB (" It takes more than walking across the border to be an American." Duncan Hunter)
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What did Newt do about our huge immigration problem when he was Speaker of the House and had a solid conservative majority? Did he pass legislation to reform immigration? No. Was it on his agenda to handle? No. Did he pass legislation to build a border fence? No. Did he pass legislation to arrest and remove all illegals from the country? No. Did he go on television or in print to call Clinton on the carpet about immigration? No.

Newt STFU. When you had your chance, you IGNORED our illegal immigration problem. You kicked the can down the street for someone else to handle. You have not earned the right to hammer other people about immigration, when you IGNORED IT. Sit back down in your lazy chair and shut up Newt. Like Clinton with terrorism, immigration to you was not a priority.


We need to finally handle illegal immigration and reform it once and for all, with securing the border first, punishing employers and doing something with all the illegals without granting amnesty.
20 posted on 05/31/2007 9:23:24 AM PDT by jrooney (The democrats are the friend of our enemy and the enemy of our friends. Attack them, not GW!)
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...who says the right can’t retain power if it alienates the center.

And the Republicans cannot gain/maintain power if they continue to alienate the Right. If the Republican party continues to slip Left, it will lose more and more voters as it did in 2006 that no longer see a difference between the two parties. They were called Reagan Democrats for a reason.

24 posted on 05/31/2007 9:31:32 AM PDT by Ingtar (...right wing conservatives are growing tired of crawling on bloody stumps looking for scraps - JRob)
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Subtitle - “To win we don’t need Reagan Democrats, we need liberals and illegal brown people who can’t vote”.

Paraphrase to Gingrich “your wheel had it’s turn, and it is time for you to go again”


32 posted on 05/31/2007 9:41:06 AM PDT by ex-snook ("But above all things, truth beareth away the victory.")
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Newt is trying to rewrite history.

Kerry based his campaign on a single plank, his four months in Viet Nam with the Swift Boats.

The Bush campaign never challenged him on this. Only Kerry’s fellow officers and sailors did.

Bush’s position was that the provision of McCain-Feingold that allowed the Swiftboaters as well as groups on the left to operate was a loophole which should be closed.

Bush actually did run his campaign on the issues. But he had to fight the drive-by media as well as the Rats.

With all due respect to Newt, he had even less success fighting the MSM than Bush has had.


33 posted on 05/31/2007 9:43:26 AM PDT by SirJohnBarleycorn
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The Bush campaign failed to wage a campaign based on ideology, said Gingrich, and instead of suggesting that Kerry was "to the left of Ted Kennedy,” it focused on attacking Kerry’s war record.

I'd say Rove was smart enough not to let Bush run on his ideology; also in the proximity of Kennedy. Tax cuts is the only successful Bush domestic policy that Kennedy hasn't co-championed

35 posted on 05/31/2007 9:46:09 AM PDT by IamConservative (I could never be a liar; there's too much to remember.)
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Having no problem with “brown” people, since I am sort of a pink brown person myself, and because most “Brown” people are really nice, I still this that Rove has’t a clue. To me the demonstration last year showed that Hispanics are much more likely to ally themselves with the Democratic Party, since they are demanding a larger share of the pie, and that is what the Democrats do best. Bush's push to legalize the illegals will matter little next year. The Hispanics know that the Republican Party won't ever match what the Democrts offer them. After all, Bush will soon be out of office and any Republican nominee is going to offer them less.
36 posted on 05/31/2007 9:47:23 AM PDT by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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The RATS neutered Newt a long time ago.


38 posted on 05/31/2007 9:50:23 AM PDT by lilylangtree (Veni, Vidi, Vici)
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Gee, here I thought this was about the 2004 campaign, not immigration.

The Bush campaign failed to wage a campaign based on ideology, said Gingrich, and instead of suggesting that Kerry was "to the left of Ted Kennedy,” it focused on attacking Kerry’s war record.

Sorry Newt, but the Bush campaign never said one negative word about JF'nK's war record. Everybody else in America did, including most of us, but the Bush campaign, no.

39 posted on 05/31/2007 9:53:03 AM PDT by metesky ("Brethren, leave us go amongst them." Rev. Capt. Samuel Johnston Clayton - Ward Bond- The Searchers)
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I am bigoted against people who break the law.


44 posted on 05/31/2007 10:02:25 AM PDT by elizabetty (Perpetual Candidate using campaign donations for your salary - Its a good gig if you can get it.)
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I said this six months ago.

And, I'm divorced, too.

When should I announce?

47 posted on 05/31/2007 10:04:42 AM PDT by Jim Noble (We don't need to know what Cho thought. We need to know what Librescu thought.)
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I wouldn’t be shocked if we find out Rove and Bush worked against a few of the these people in 2004 so he could get a Congress that would pass this shamnesty bill.
48 posted on 05/31/2007 10:05:31 AM PDT by elizabetty (Perpetual Candidate using campaign donations for your salary - Its a good gig if you can get it.)
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