Posted on 05/30/2007 11:23:09 PM PDT by Rick_Michael
House conservatives are ready to stop the Senate immigration bill in its tracks with a potent procedural weapon should the contentious measure win passage in the upper chamber.
The trump card conservatives may hold is a constitutional rule that revenue-related bills must originate in the House. The Senate immigration measure requires that illegal immigrants pay back taxes before becoming citizens, opening the door to a House protest, dubbed a blue slip for the color of its paper.......
If we get an opportunity to do it, believe me, well do it, the aide said. I think its going to be a matter of who will get there first. A number of people in the House are dying to be fingered as the person who killed [the Senate bill]...................
Any House member can move to blue-slip a Senate-originated bill that raises revenue, though the protest requires a majority vote to send the legislation back across the Capitol and force immigration negotiators back to square one...........
Not that I know of, but there might be.
Tis revenue, aint it? Maybe I'm grasping at straws here,
You are! LOL!
but I want some sort of hope...
You better hope that they have something else planned to stop them.
I want to believe that this country is heading down that slope, where it can never return.
It is. IF this shamnesty passes, we're heading into third world status.
“No, they will not have a right to vote unless they become an American citizen. They must first get the greencard, and then apply for citizenship at some amount of time afterward; not sure how long after they have the greencard they can get it.”
So you think they’ll not want to leave the country and apply for citizenship...no matter how temporary? So this bill essentially just makes them ‘semi’ lawful. A step above the status quo (atleast for them).
They can’t vote legally. They can’t reside here legally either.
They already get government benefits. Californians tried to stop this (”Prop.187”), but the courts dictated otherwise.
I’d rather have no Senators than a bunch of bad ones
Rep. Darrell Issa said today there are 105.
Makes me feel a bit better. I’m just hoping that the handful of dems that ran on an enforcement platform don’t make a deal with the devil. Funny, I’m depending on democrats.
Sad, really.
“So you think theyll not want to leave the country and apply for citizenship...no matter how temporary? So this bill essentially just makes them semi lawful. A step above the status quo (atleast for them).”
Yeah, but if we get a Dem President w/a Dem Federal Legislature, they could then get the citizenship they wanted if the laws are changed to accomodate them as citizens a lot earlier and easier. How quickly do you think the Dems would push this through to get their Dem votes by all these new Hispanic voters who will vote Dem?
By the way, did you also know that 50,000 immigrants are allowed into our country every year via the Lottery system? From countries that will bring more “diversity” to our nation (in other words, 3rd world countries and the Mideast). I’m sure you are happier knowing that.
“Rep. Darrell Issa said today there are 105.”
So, another 100 or so. Do you think we’ll get that....in voting...?
“Remember also that the House has an amnesty bill of its own, Flake/Gutierrez. I think they could pass that bill and then, when it goes to the Senate/House conference committee, merge in the senate bill’s text.”
Yes, and as the Dems control the House, they will then stack the conference committee with the most liberal of all Dems, along w/a few moderate Pubs. So, guess what will come out of the conference committee. You won’t like it.
I wish I could overhaul the system. I would lock-down the borders (with efficient workplace enforcement), and hold more favor to industries that actually have excessive inflation growth e.g the medical field.
I would want it to be more quota-driven. Something like 50k from each applying country...all on high standards. I would literally hold monthly talks with Mexico and the rest of latin america, to tell them to get it together. Give them some sort of incentive...
Too bad our leaders don’t know common-sense.
I think the legitimacy given them by being potentially eligible does 99% of the damage. Once they can legally apply they are protected.
Bush actually did us a favor by saying that amnesty opponents are not doing what’s in the interest of the nation. That has infuriated the base even more, so the legislators’ phone lines should still be hopping for a while. Laura Ingraham said he had stirred up a hornets’ nest. Indeed.
This bill is absolutely pathetic. It’s what I would write if I wanted to make a satire to show what a bad bill looks like.
Instant amnesty for gang members. LOL!
Takes 3 not 2, DUI convictions to not qualify (unless they sneak through some other loophole).
Good to see some Republicans haven’t gone RINO or Libertarian.
It's worse than that. Lawmakers (who won't enforce the old law) are never going to enforce the new law either.
And that's the joke...
How are they going to collect the $5,000 fine from these minimum/low pay wage workers???????
I guess now we just keep sending messages to our congresscritters and REALLY keep praying for them. I guess if we are praying for them, we have to ease up on the venom in the messages, but not on the intensity. Here’s hoping.
I received a questionaire from Boehner yesterday. Filled it out completely. In the comments section I noted the House GOP had to secure the border and kill this latest addition of Amnesty before I’d donate another dime.
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