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GOP plots blue-slip attack (Way to Defeat Amnesty)
TheHill ^ | May 30, 2007 | By Elana Schor and Jackie Kucinich

Posted on 05/30/2007 11:23:09 PM PDT by Rick_Michael

House conservatives are ready to stop the Senate immigration bill in its tracks with a potent procedural weapon should the contentious measure win passage in the upper chamber.

The trump card conservatives may hold is a constitutional rule that revenue-related bills must originate in the House. The Senate immigration measure requires that illegal immigrants pay back taxes before becoming citizens, opening the door to a House protest, dubbed a “blue slip” for the color of its paper.......

“If we get an opportunity to do it, believe me, we’ll do it,” the aide said. “I think it’s going to be a matter of who will get there first. A number of people in the House are dying to be fingered as the person who killed [the Senate bill].”..................

Any House member can move to blue-slip a Senate-originated bill that raises revenue, though the protest requires a majority vote to send the legislation back across the Capitol and force immigration negotiators back to square one...........


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: amnesty; illegalimmigration; immigration
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To: Rick_Michael
Isn't there still a penalty fee or something that amounts to that?

Not that I know of, but there might be.

Tis revenue, aint it? Maybe I'm grasping at straws here,

You are! LOL!

but I want some sort of hope...

You better hope that they have something else planned to stop them.

I want to believe that this country is heading down that slope, where it can never return.

It is. IF this shamnesty passes, we're heading into third world status.

21 posted on 05/31/2007 12:32:48 AM PDT by NRA2BFree ("The time is near at hand which must determine whether Americans are to be free men or slaves!")
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To: flaglady47

“No, they will not have a right to vote unless they become an American citizen. They must first get the greencard, and then apply for citizenship at some amount of time afterward; not sure how long after they have the greencard they can get it.”

So you think they’ll not want to leave the country and apply for citizenship...no matter how temporary? So this bill essentially just makes them ‘semi’ lawful. A step above the status quo (atleast for them).


22 posted on 05/31/2007 12:34:33 AM PDT by Rick_Michael (Fred Thompson)
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To: Rick_Michael

They can’t vote legally. They can’t reside here legally either.

They already get government benefits. Californians tried to stop this (”Prop.187”), but the courts dictated otherwise.


23 posted on 05/31/2007 12:35:21 AM PDT by FreePoster (Duncan Hunter in 2008)
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To: flaglady47
Remember also that the House has an amnesty bill of its own, Flake/Gutierrez. I think they could pass that bill and then, when it goes to the Senate/House conference committee, merge in the senate bill's text. Many house members would like to kill this thing, though.

Amazing how much I have learned from just this amnesty cr*p :)

See my tagline.



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24 posted on 05/31/2007 12:37:06 AM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Illegals: representation without taxation--Citizens: taxation without representation)
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To: Rick_Michael
Btw, I meant to tell you that Congressman Tancredo said there is a coalition of 100 Congressmen/women who intend to stop this from going through. That should make you feel better now. :o)
25 posted on 05/31/2007 12:38:54 AM PDT by NRA2BFree ("The time is near at hand which must determine whether Americans are to be free men or slaves!")
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To: Rick_Michael

I’d rather have no Senators than a bunch of bad ones


26 posted on 05/31/2007 12:39:02 AM PDT by dennisw (The fear of the Lord is the beginning of knowledge: but fools despise wisdom and instruction)
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To: NRA2BFree

Rep. Darrell Issa said today there are 105.


27 posted on 05/31/2007 12:44:06 AM PDT by FreePoster (Duncan Hunter in 2008)
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To: NRA2BFree

Makes me feel a bit better. I’m just hoping that the handful of dems that ran on an enforcement platform don’t make a deal with the devil. Funny, I’m depending on democrats.

Sad, really.


28 posted on 05/31/2007 12:45:14 AM PDT by Rick_Michael (Fred Thompson)
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To: Rick_Michael

“So you think they’ll not want to leave the country and apply for citizenship...no matter how temporary? So this bill essentially just makes them ‘semi’ lawful. A step above the status quo (atleast for them).”

Yeah, but if we get a Dem President w/a Dem Federal Legislature, they could then get the citizenship they wanted if the laws are changed to accomodate them as citizens a lot earlier and easier. How quickly do you think the Dems would push this through to get their Dem votes by all these new Hispanic voters who will vote Dem?

By the way, did you also know that 50,000 immigrants are allowed into our country every year via the Lottery system? From countries that will bring more “diversity” to our nation (in other words, 3rd world countries and the Mideast). I’m sure you are happier knowing that.


29 posted on 05/31/2007 12:56:16 AM PDT by flaglady47 (Thinking out loud while grinding teeth in political frustration)
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To: FreePoster

“Rep. Darrell Issa said today there are 105.”

So, another 100 or so. Do you think we’ll get that....in voting...?


30 posted on 05/31/2007 12:56:48 AM PDT by Rick_Michael (Fred Thompson)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas

“Remember also that the House has an amnesty bill of its own, Flake/Gutierrez. I think they could pass that bill and then, when it goes to the Senate/House conference committee, merge in the senate bill’s text.”

Yes, and as the Dems control the House, they will then stack the conference committee with the most liberal of all Dems, along w/a few moderate Pubs. So, guess what will come out of the conference committee. You won’t like it.


31 posted on 05/31/2007 1:00:49 AM PDT by flaglady47 (Thinking out loud while grinding teeth in political frustration)
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To: flaglady47

I wish I could overhaul the system. I would lock-down the borders (with efficient workplace enforcement), and hold more favor to industries that actually have excessive inflation growth e.g the medical field.

I would want it to be more quota-driven. Something like 50k from each applying country...all on high standards. I would literally hold monthly talks with Mexico and the rest of latin america, to tell them to get it together. Give them some sort of incentive...

Too bad our leaders don’t know common-sense.


32 posted on 05/31/2007 1:03:39 AM PDT by Rick_Michael (Fred Thompson)
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To: flaglady47

I think the legitimacy given them by being potentially eligible does 99% of the damage. Once they can legally apply they are protected.


33 posted on 05/31/2007 1:12:04 AM PDT by FreePoster (Duncan Hunter in 2008)
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To: Rick_Michael

Bush actually did us a favor by saying that amnesty opponents are not doing what’s in the interest of the nation. That has infuriated the base even more, so the legislators’ phone lines should still be hopping for a while. Laura Ingraham said he had stirred up a hornets’ nest. Indeed.

This bill is absolutely pathetic. It’s what I would write if I wanted to make a satire to show what a bad bill looks like.

Instant amnesty for gang members. LOL!

Takes 3 not 2, DUI convictions to not qualify (unless they sneak through some other loophole).


34 posted on 05/31/2007 1:18:31 AM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Illegals: representation without taxation--Citizens: taxation without representation)
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To: FreePoster
>>I think the legitimacy given them by being potentially eligible does 99% of the damage. Once they can legally apply they are protected.<<

And get a real social security card.


35 posted on 05/31/2007 1:21:09 AM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Illegals: representation without taxation--Citizens: taxation without representation)
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To: Rick_Michael

Good to see some Republicans haven’t gone RINO or Libertarian.


36 posted on 05/31/2007 1:23:30 AM PDT by DesScorp
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To: Tzimisce
Illegals (who won’t obey the old law) are never going to pay a dime under the new law. This is such a joke...

It's worse than that. Lawmakers (who won't enforce the old law) are never going to enforce the new law either.

And that's the joke...

37 posted on 05/31/2007 2:25:55 AM PDT by metesky ("Brethren, leave us go amongst them." Rev. Capt. Samuel Johnston Clayton - Ward Bond- The Searchers)
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To: Tzimisce
This amnesty reminds me of our lawmakers rewarding the criminals in our prisons with 'good behavior time off' their sentences.

How are they going to collect the $5,000 fine from these minimum/low pay wage workers???????

38 posted on 05/31/2007 5:17:07 AM PDT by GailA (I'm a quilt-a-holic, and proud of it.)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

I guess now we just keep sending messages to our congresscritters and REALLY keep praying for them. I guess if we are praying for them, we have to ease up on the venom in the messages, but not on the intensity. Here’s hoping.


39 posted on 05/31/2007 5:45:03 AM PDT by twonie (Keep your guns - and stockpile ammo.)
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To: Rick_Michael

I received a questionaire from Boehner yesterday. Filled it out completely. In the comments section I noted the House GOP had to secure the border and kill this latest addition of Amnesty before I’d donate another dime.


40 posted on 05/31/2007 5:49:04 AM PDT by Badeye (You know its a kook site when they ban the word 'kook')
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