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Yes, Valerie Plame Was Covert
Political Animal via CBS News ^ | May 29, 2007 | Kevin Drum

Posted on 05/30/2007 12:35:06 PM PDT by Sleeping Beauty

In a court filing today, Patrick Fitzgerald provides a summary of Valerie Plame Wilson's status with the CIA's Counterproliferation Division at the time she was outed to the press by members of the Bush administration. Guess what? She was covert:

While assigned to CPD, Ms. Wilson engaged in temporary duty (TDY) travel overseas on official business. She traveled at least seven times to more than ten countries. When traveling overseas, Ms. Wilson always traveled under a cover identity — sometimes in true name and sometimes in alias — but always using cover — whether official or non-official cover (NOC) — with no ostensible relationship to the CIA.

At the time of the initial unauthorized disclosure in the media of Ms. Wilson's employment relationship with the CIA on 14 July 2003, Ms. Wilson was a covert employee for whom the CIA was taking affirmative measures to conceal her intelligence relationship to the United States.

...she had been working under cover outside the U.S. quite extensively during the previous five years, which means that Plame almost certainly qualified as "covert" under the specific definitions outlined in IIPA. Nonetheless, for some reason Fitzgerald decided not to bring outing charges against anyone. This suggests that Mark Kleiman has been right all along: Fitzgerald's decision had nothing to do with technical aspects of IIPA, but rather with its scienter requirements.

That is, the leakers had to know that leaking Plame's name could be damaging, and Fitzgerald didn't think he had the evidence to make that case. That might have been especially true since the leaks seem to have been authorized at very high levels, something the leakers could have used in their defense at trial.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: cia; cialeak; plame; plamegame; plamegate; valerieplame
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To: Sleeping Beauty

Her 15 minutes are over. Everyone has forgotten about her except Libby.


21 posted on 05/30/2007 12:44:22 PM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: Puppage
Soooo, if you use your real name you're still under a cover identity?

Sure.

"Hi, I'm Valerie Plame. No, not THAT Valerie Plame."

22 posted on 05/30/2007 12:44:33 PM PDT by PBRSTREETGANG
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To: Tribune7

It’s all a Democrat plot by... um... um...

...um...

...um...

...well, they just don’t seem to have anyone as smart as Karl Rove.


23 posted on 05/30/2007 12:44:43 PM PDT by unspun (What do you think? Please think, before you answer.)
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To: Sleeping Beauty

I sure would like to know what she did under cover.


24 posted on 05/30/2007 12:44:44 PM PDT by Sonora
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To: Sleeping Beauty

If she was covert, why didn’t Fitzmas convict anyone for it? Fitz is CYA.

Pray for W and Our Troops


25 posted on 05/30/2007 12:45:00 PM PDT by bray (The co-clintons freed more terrorists then they killed)
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To: Sleeping Beauty

CBS news = fake.


27 posted on 05/30/2007 12:46:04 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Sonora

Mr. Wilson when he was married to the former Mrs. Wilson.


28 posted on 05/30/2007 12:46:42 PM PDT by linn37 (Love your Phlebotomist)
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To: Sleeping Beauty
At the time of the initial unauthorized disclosure in the media of Ms. Wilson's employment relationship with the CIA on 14 July 2003, Ms. Wilson was a covert employee for whom the CIA was taking affirmative measures to conceal her intelligence relationship to the United States.

And those measures were? IE where is the cover company, etc? IIRC that ended five years earlier.

29 posted on 05/30/2007 12:46:42 PM PDT by palmer
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To: All
As a result:

Friends of Scooter Libby Fear He'll Be Sent Immediately to Jail

May 30, 2007

When Lewis "Scooter" Libby is sentenced next month for his involvement in the Valerie Plame-CIA spy scandal, friends and legal allies fear that he will immediately be shipped to jail.

"I think that he will get some jail time and probably be sent away that day," said a member of the Libby Legal Defense Fund.

Libby's supporters plan to make the case again that the prosecution was politically motivated, spun out of control, and ended up nailing someone who wasn't even the leaker of Plame's name in the case. Special Prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald, however, has already dismissed those claims and added that Libby has shown no remorse for his acts. Fitzgerald is expected to push for a sentence of up to three years in prison for obstruction.

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What a mess! This is just so wrong.

http://www.usnews.com/usnews/blogs/news_blog/070530/friends_of_scooter_libby_fear.htm

30 posted on 05/30/2007 12:49:54 PM PDT by Sleeping Beauty
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To: Sleeping Beauty

Personally I dont give a Red rats Butt what she was.

Tha fact remains that Scooter Libby was a scapegoat for Fitzgerald so he could get some kinfd of conviction and Fitzgerald wasted millions and should be held responsible.

It was all political BS.


31 posted on 05/30/2007 12:50:23 PM PDT by sgtbono2002 (I'm gonna vote for Fred. John Bolton for VP.)
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To: Sleeping Beauty

This is just the Vast Leftwing Conspiracy cleaning up a loose-end so that the reporters can right their books & have a ‘happy ending’. Nothing more. Move along.


32 posted on 05/30/2007 12:52:28 PM PDT by Tallguy (Climate is what you plan for, weather is what you get.)
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To: Sleeping Beauty
When you drive your family car to and from CIA headquarters in Langley VA, every work day from 8 to 5, you are not covert. In spite of what Fitz and CBS say.
33 posted on 05/30/2007 12:54:00 PM PDT by norwaypinesavage (Planting trees to offset carbon emissions is like drinking water to offset rising ocean levels)
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To: Sleeping Beauty

I thought she was doing covert work for the Democrats.


34 posted on 05/30/2007 12:54:05 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: Puppage
Depending on the situation, and form of cover, real names are fairly often, used. (It takes time to learn to respond to "John Smith" when your real name is Milo Vandermuller III - bogus titles and addresses are easy to recite.)

I just don't buy the Langley to under cover to Langley to undercover part unless the law is written vaguely enough so that any CIA employee seeking to travel without waiving a flag is covered.

35 posted on 05/30/2007 12:55:32 PM PDT by norton
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To: Sleeping Beauty
"Just ignore me as I laugh my ass off! "

"Don't call me, talk to Colin. "

36 posted on 05/30/2007 12:56:10 PM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: Anti-Bubba182

look at the source.

CBS is using fake data again.

fake but accurate...

how will couric perky this story up...?


37 posted on 05/30/2007 12:57:20 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: dead
#20, thanks.

Different rules than my organization. We are told to keep a low profile when traveling abroad.

38 posted on 05/30/2007 12:57:29 PM PDT by gov_bean_ counter ( Who is the Democrat's George Galloway?)
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To: Sleeping Beauty
The Elephant in the room is her husband going on a public speaking tour and lying about a confidential mission he undertook for the CIA, in which she played a role whether or not she made the decision to send him.

It strains believability that she did not support and encourage her husband in this incredible breach of protocol, and it is inconceivable that a faithful CIA agent would sit by silently while her lying husband embarrassed her, the CIA and her country to the Nth degree.

Valerie Planme is a politician first, CIA agent second. She and her husband undermined US foreign policy in the middle of a war. Why would anyone think her status would be sacrosanct under these circumstances?

39 posted on 05/30/2007 12:58:42 PM PDT by Williams
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To: Sleeping Beauty
Does this change anything?

No. In CIA parlance, once "covert", always "covert".

But "covert" was never part of the argument. Instead, the argument concerned "protected" -- as in "a protected identity" under the terms of the Espionage Identities Protection Act.

Plame's was clearly not a "protected" identity. And still isn't.

40 posted on 05/30/2007 1:00:41 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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