Posted on 05/30/2007 11:21:26 AM PDT by qam1
Government provides a flood of liquidity via Government Sponsored Entities that inflates the values of homes and encourages indebtness, last I checked the GSEs had more debt than the publicly held Treasury debt and were incapable of producing financial statements.
This is in addition to restricting new construction, taxing people to purchase "open space", etc.
Pish-tosh. Plenty of people living comfortable, modern, American lives have large families. It's simply a matter of your priorities.
How many children are your granite countertops worth? Your "garden bath"? Your "tray ceilings"? Do you lie in bed at night thinking, "My ceilings make me so happy!?" I lie in bed thinking, "My baby makes me so happy!"
(Note, this is a rhetorical "you," not a personal "you.")
Our society is more productive and supports a greater number of people in greater comfort than any agricultural society. If people choose not to have children, that's their business, but to claim it's economically unfeasible is simply false.
That's an interesting angle, I'd never thought of this from the fertility angle. Much of goobermint high school is squandered time that could be better used by having serious students head for college when they are 16. Indeed several of my most intelligent friends simply dropped out of high school and went straight to college.
When she ends up bitter, alone, and dying from a degenerative disease without anyone to take care of her, maybe she can get back to us on the Malthusian swill.
Sure it does. I have 9 kids, and they are educated, productive adults living all over the world and literally influencing the lives of millions.
They are doing G-D's work, and I am very proud of each one of them.
I know it’s tough, but I’ll take one for the team and help Anna have the kids she’s always wanted.
Angst? Saving the Planet? What a POS! The real motive is that a child requires a change in lifestyle. She wants to save resources then simply turn the clock back to 1955 and live the way that the Cleevers did.
Maybe it's just coincidental that as a society industrializes, the cost of education, housing, and medical care go up way faster than the gains in productivity from that industrialization. Those are three major expenses in having families, it's not just food and clothing.
You should not leave out the elite universities. They have been socialist seminaries since the 1930s. Their missionaries have taken root in the every cow college in America.
LOL! :)...drink-up
Glad you figured out a way to pay for them, somehow. It just isn't that easy, anymore. I presume that was some time ago, since they'd have to be adults to "influence the lives of millions." And not just twentysomethings, either.
Of course, the fact that you cannot spell out your deity's whole name tells me a lot about your attitude on the oldest part of the Bible...
baby economics: $8,000 for your egg in NYC.
Do they think that humans are a virus or something? If so, then they shouldn't have kids.
Humans can be extremely productive, helping other humans overcome difficulties, even with a changing climate. Humans can learn to adapt to changing situations and help their fellow man do the same, providing they are given the freedom to do so. In most places about which I imagine these chicks would discuss as dangerous or difficult in the world, they are countries that deny their fellow human beings that freedom to do the best for themselves and their families.
Yep. It is called having a budget and priorities.
Do you want the three week cruise or the kid with the rubber ducky in the $10.00 kiddie pool?
Me, I am taking the kid.
I used to work with first time moms. They'd often spout this crap at first, but later, almost without exception, would go on to have another, and often two. Why ? Because babies are the most wonderful thing . Especially your own.
Uh, no thank you.
But I do appreciate the offer.
Incorrect.
The gains in productivity and in goods far out strip the cost of those things. If you doubt this I would suggest that you actually go and spend a little time living in a preindustrial society.
The price rises in relation to the quantity being consumed.
Houses are larger and better constructed then ever and if you go by square footage the cost has kept pace with inflation.
Medical care is being consumed at a higher rate, things that our parents, "just had to live with" because there were no treatments for that condition can now be treated. Resulting in both higher productivity and a higher quality of life.
Education which was confined to the basics with higher education being reserved for the wealthy has also been opened up to more people with the current high school graduate being three times more likely to being able to attend college then his father was.
On a side note notice how she never mentioned who will care for her in her later years. I guess she figures the Canadian Government will be there to comfort her.
You are correct. Under John Dewey's stewardship of the Columbia University teachers' college, so-called progressive education, with its attendant emphasis on socialization (i.e., conformance with subjective social norms) and deemphasis on learning and basic learning skills like phonics, spread throughout the educational system. Many conservatives may sneer at the "ivory towers" of the prestigious universities, but those ivory towers are the control towers of intellectual life. Secular humanists and socialists gained control of these universities in the 1930s and even earlier, if you are talking about Harvard or Columbia.
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