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To: dangus

You know what would really be a sure fire way to reclaim the republican party???

Is to stay home on election day to teach those republicans in Congress a lesson.

Oh! We did that in 2006 and now have no majority in the House to stop this insane immigration bill.

That was a great idea, let’s do it in 2008 so that President Hillary will really teach to GOP a lesson./sarc


4 posted on 05/30/2007 11:14:24 AM PDT by Perdogg
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To: Perdogg

I don’t think dangus is suggesting we stay home on election day.


6 posted on 05/30/2007 11:15:53 AM PDT by randog (What the...?!)
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To: Perdogg

You guys will never get it. True conservatives are fed up with being dissed by elitist Republicans, who are happier in the minority anyway. All you care about is maintaining what little power you have left. Some of us have been dissed for the last time.


8 posted on 05/30/2007 11:18:23 AM PDT by tgusa (Gun control: deep breath, sight alignment, squeeze the trigger .....)
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To: Perdogg

If we had a Republican president instead of an elitist snob who thinks conservatives are racist, sexist, ignorant hicks, we wouldn’t have to worry about Nancy Pelosi... And in a few more years, she’d be gone.

But, you’re obviously the type who’d trade away the whole farm system for a few more David Wrights and Carl Pavanos.


13 posted on 05/30/2007 11:23:12 AM PDT by dangus (Mr. President, "Choke on it b!+ch" is not a very good campaign slogan for your amnesty.)
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To: Perdogg
You know what would really be a sure fire way to reclaim the republican party???

Is to stay home on election day to teach those republicans in Congress a lesson.

Oh! We did that in 2006 and now have no majority in the House to stop this insane immigration bill.


I can't believe we still have people whining about 2006. But more importantly, I can't believe that some people seem incapable of learning even some of the most obvious lessons.

So let's review:

1) Who is the biggest supporter of this bill? That's right - our own Republican President Bush.
2) How many Republican Senators have stood up and said they will do what it takes to stop this bill? That's right - ZERO. In fact, they, along with the President, are calling conservatives ignorant bigots for objecting to the bill.

Now, I want you to think very carefully about the wisdom of returning these same people over and over again to office. The Republican Party is no longer any more conservative than the Democrats. There are, indeed, conservatives in the Republican party, but apparently they are held in low esteem by the party elites. The end result is that voting Republican, in this instance at least, would change virtually nothing, and might even have the negative effect of rewarding liberal behavior in Republicans by returning them to office despite their bad behavior. The only way to save the Republican Party, if it can be saved, is to purge the RINO office holders.
17 posted on 05/30/2007 11:26:33 AM PDT by fr_freak
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To: Perdogg

“Oh! We did that in 2006 and now have no majority in the House to stop this insane immigration bill.”

Oh, yeah, that Republican majority sure did some good things. They tightened the budget tighter than an frog’s a$$, didn’t they? They took up the cause for smashing some of the PC silliness and fixed our schools. Heck, even though we have a minority now, we have a Republican president who will veto insane immigration bills, right?

Hmmmm, maybe that didn’t happen, and it was a dream I had?


19 posted on 05/30/2007 11:26:55 AM PDT by brownsfan (It's not a war on terror... it's a war with islam.)
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People staying home did not cost Republican seats. Republicans didn’t get the job done. I held my nose but others weren’t buying what was being sold. Take away any cheat % and the election went as it was designed. I’m really concerned because instead of fixing the problem for the last 3 years all I still see is “whose fault it is”. The enemy is probably laughing.
21 posted on 05/30/2007 11:29:31 AM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: Perdogg

How is electing a RINO different?
oh...that’s right...

there is no difference!

VIVA LES RINOS!!!

BRAVO CHARLIE CRIST!!


26 posted on 05/30/2007 11:41:19 AM PDT by tutstar (Baptist Ping list - freepmail me to get on or off.)
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To: Perdogg

Sounds good to me...


28 posted on 05/30/2007 11:42:39 AM PDT by dakine
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Is to stay home on election day to teach those republicans in Congress a lesson. Oh! We did that in 2006 and now have no majority in the House to stop this insane immigration bill.

You might have stayed home but conservatives did not, they voted. Unfortunately for Republicans, Independents turned against them in droves.

It is tiresome to keep reading this BS that conservatives did not vote for conservative candidates. Not once has anyone showed that this happened nationally.

It is true that many conservatives will no longer vote for liberals, even if they're Republican, but this is not to teach anyone a lesson, it is merely being true to ones principles, something the Republican party might think about doing.

30 posted on 05/30/2007 11:48:47 AM PDT by Prokopton
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You are so correct. Some here have let their anger, no matter how justified, turn them into members of a circular firing squad. If you “show” the Republicans, you enable the RATS. I’m not so sure some of these folks aren’t left over Perotistas and left wing plants.


43 posted on 05/30/2007 12:21:23 PM PDT by PicWzrd (Run Fred Run!)
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You got it! Hillary will probably win in 08. This is sad and unfortunate indeed. The Republican Party has had a field day on us CONSERVATIVES. I was at one time a Bush Bot like yourself after 9-11. However looking back as this article has said we have nothing to show for the last 5 years other than 4 trillion dollars more debt, a fake war on terror, Estados Unidos in the making, several idiotic hate crime bills, and a bunch of COWARDS (pu$$y republicans) that wont stand up and fight for ANYTHING that’s good for America. These pathetic fools couldn’t even protect OUR FLAG OR THE PLEGE OF ALLIGANCE !!!!!!!!
50 posted on 05/30/2007 12:30:52 PM PDT by PEACE ENFORCER (Liberals; People That are So Open minded Their Brains Have Fallen Out !)
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Living in Massachusetts means that I do not have the luxury of not voting for a Republican for just about anything.

I have lose-lose before me every time that I go to vote.

I think that it is time to hold our noses, vote out the bastards, let the chips fall where they may, and immediately after commence with the clean up. It may sting for a bit, but things can get better if we all agree to rid ourselves of the real problem first.

The current crop of skunks does us all no good service, and they need to be seriously rebuked.

61 posted on 05/30/2007 12:42:59 PM PDT by Radix ( Honey, I shrunk our Carbon Footprint.)
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Oh! We did that in 2006 and now have no majority in the House to stop this insane immigration bill.

Are you referring to the Republican crafted and supported Insane immigration bill? You know, the one the Republican President backs and lectures his base about complaining about it? Is it the same insane immigration bill a Republican congressman calls conservatives bigots for not getting on the bandwagon?

Is that the Republican majority who is going to stop this insane bill?

I don't think so.

69 posted on 05/30/2007 12:53:29 PM PDT by CharacterCounts
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Perdogg: You're looking at this realistically. We have to get the best we can. We surrendered to the RATS last election and see what we got. We now have a larger hole from which me must try to dig ourselves.

The "teach-them-a-lesson" strategy does not work.

We have to fight it out in the primaries and then stick together to defeat the RATS. They're even worse than these RINOs.

77 posted on 05/30/2007 1:04:12 PM PDT by Conservativegreatgrandma
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Oh! We did that in 2006 and now have no majority in the House to stop this insane immigration bill.

I held my nose and voted a straight Republican ballot but I still didn't vote against my Democrat Rep because he was running unopposed in a red district in a red state. I wonder how many other house seats were lost by default in red states and red districts. Probably as many as were lost because somebody stayed home.

83 posted on 05/30/2007 1:17:20 PM PDT by fewz
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Hey Perdogg! First, a big fat YAWN on your post. Real weighty, smart and full of originality. Not.

Now, explain this to everyone. If the Repubs in charge, just what would the immigration bill look like?


89 posted on 05/30/2007 1:25:31 PM PDT by Madeleine Ward
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Oh! We did that in 2006 and now have no majority in the House to stop this insane immigration bill.

Watch TV much? Apparently not, so I'll give you a little hint - many of those same Republicans you think would have stopped this bill are either supporting it or would have supported it, and many "Republican" Senators are supporting this, including some who are running for the GOP Presidential nomination.

Remember when Bush started referring to the criminal illegals as "guest workers"? Remember when Bush called the citizens who were trying to help the Border Patrol "vigilantes"? Here's another hint: It was before 2006. Bush has wanted this for a long time, and some have made a solid case for it going back to his gubernatorial days.

Here's the true story of 2006: 2006 should have been a lesson to the GOP and the White House to get their act together. Instead, we have a Republican President attacking other Republicans because they oppose amnesty, something any right-thinking Republican would do. We have Republican Senators and Representatives not only supporting amnesty, but bragging about it publicly and/or skirmishing with other Republicans about who should get credit for it.

All 2006 did was reinforce the GOP moving to the left. If we continue to vote for liberal Republicans, simply to keep Republicans in office, then we are doing nothing but approving of their liberal beliefs. In other words, we reward their liberal moves with our votes if we support them.
96 posted on 05/30/2007 1:55:59 PM PDT by af_vet_rr
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Would a Republican Congress have fought against Bush on immigration? I’m not so sure.


109 posted on 05/30/2007 2:38:37 PM PDT by PghBaldy (Amnesty is cultural suicide. Save America, Congress!)
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Is to stay home on election day to teach those republicans in Congress a lesson.

Who said anything about staying home? How about showing up in 2008 en mass and making the Republicrats come in third?
118 posted on 05/30/2007 3:42:07 PM PDT by Old_Mil (Duncan Hunter in 2008! A Veteran, A Patriot, A Reagan Republican... http://www.gohunter08.com/)
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“You know what would really be a sure fire way to reclaim the republican party???

Is to stay home on election day to teach those republicans in Congress a lesson.”

Once and for all: The party faithful stayed home because the Republicans acted poorly. Were Dems a better choice? Of course not.

Stop blaming voters: In lieu of a real conservative third choice the voters did what the system was designed to do: They threw the bums out. Instead of blaming voters it would better serve people to write their reps and remind them that what happened to their limp-wristed comrades in ‘06 could happen to them. Threaten to take away their access to posh Washington parties, page boys and drugs and see how fast they lean back to the right.

123 posted on 05/30/2007 6:14:24 PM PDT by samm1148 (Pennsylvania-They haven't taxed air--yet)
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