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Greed and gasoline prices
Las Vegas Review-Journal ^ | 29 may 07

Posted on 05/29/2007 5:21:37 AM PDT by rellimpank

Who grabs the most out of prices at the pump? Politicians are old hands at trying to get some mileage (sorry) out of any current trend that raises voters' ire. They hold hearings, they pass bills with feel-good monikers designed to convince constituents they're "doing something."

Take gasoline prices.

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., was all over the oil companies last week on the subject of current gasoline prices. Which greedy characters benefit the most from such high prices, Sen. Reid?

"You go to a service station in Las Vegas, and the price of gasoline is $3.28 a gallon," Sen. Reid explained. "That man that has that service station doesn't make any money. He makes pennies -- pennies, less than a nickel a gallon. The oil companies and refineries make it all."

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: energy; gasoline; taxes
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To: rellimpank

After reading this article, I had a thought: I wonder if our government is subsidizing ethanol in part because it lowers mileage, since lower mileage means more gallons bought and more taxes paid. Most fuel taxes are on a per gallon basis. It’s Win Win!/(extreme barf sarcasm)


21 posted on 05/29/2007 5:55:37 AM PDT by sportutegrl
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To: xcamel

BUMP


22 posted on 05/29/2007 5:58:19 AM PDT by visualops (artlife.us)
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To: rellimpank
Don't forget, ethanol is only 85% as efficient as gasoline. So, you must burn more gallons of it to travel the same distance.

What Mr. Reid and his fellow thieves in Congress have done is impose a 15% tax increase on the drivers of our fair country without having to face any of the negative fall out from voters.

Congress reminds me of the little boy in the 7th grade who lets loose a stinker and immediately points at someone else. The real culprit is Mr. Reid and his den of thieves.

23 posted on 05/29/2007 5:59:00 AM PDT by Texas Jack
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To: mewzilla

I think the station operators and or the gasoline companies should post the taxes at the pump. I think it would be a proactive step to take the heat off of themselves. If people knew how much per gallon is really tax they might have a clue.


24 posted on 05/29/2007 6:02:04 AM PDT by 2right
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To: The Great RJ
High gasoline taxes are a direct result of the Democrats no drill policies and the years of red tape it would take to build any new refinery capacity.

That’s on way to look at it. The government has certainly done nothing to ease the burden on Americans.

Just consider however why government (not just democrats) have done everything in their power to prevent any actual action that will reduce the price of fuel.

Big oil (for lack of a more effective term to describe the oil industry) lobbies hard with incredible amounts of power and money, and politicians do their bidding.

Why would an oil company wish to spend millions (billions?) to increase their refining capacity? This would effectively reduce their profits dramatically.

They are making record profits by NOT increasing capacity and by NOT tapping new oil fields.

It is also important to note that there are a number of peripheral industries that are benefiting from inflated oil prices.

25 posted on 05/29/2007 6:02:29 AM PDT by WhiteGuy (GOP Congress - 16,000 earmarks costing US $50 billion in 2006 - PAUL2008)
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To: 2right
I think the station operators and or the gasoline companies should post the taxes at the pump.

I would think they could.

And I'm very curious as to why they haven't done so, especially since many in the public are so quick to give station operators a ration of excrement every time prices go up....

26 posted on 05/29/2007 6:05:07 AM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: mewzilla
This would be one benefit of a fair tax. It would force you to deal with the level of taxation with every purchase. Right now with withholding you never see the money so you don’t really know just how much is being taken away before you see it. I used to work for a funeral home in Florida, 50 years ago, where the owner would pay us every few months in cash. If we made a hundred dollars a month he would give us the full one hundred dollars. Then he would have give back to him dollar by dollar all the money that he was required to withhold from your check. In fact, if you made one hundred dollars he would pay you $105 to account for his part of the matching funds. It was an eye-opener. He would make sure you understood that although you bring home only $70 or so he was having to spend over one hundred dollars.

A large part of government’s ability to tax us to death is to make the amounts small but multitudinous, and to call them all sorts of fancy names to hide their true purpose.

27 posted on 05/29/2007 6:09:11 AM PDT by jwpjr
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To: Kieri

Out of curiosity, is there ever any talk of siting a new refinery there. Seems to me that the states which are economically depressed would seize the opportunity.


28 posted on 05/29/2007 6:09:57 AM PDT by ClaireSolt (Have you have gotten mixed up in a mish-masher?)
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To: xcamel

Here in PA, Fast Eddie Rendell is doing his very best to make Pennsylvania number one...in gas tax. He got his last one through without so much as a peep of complaint from voters. Thus encouraged about the idiocy of the average PA voter, he’s rying to get another gas tax hike through. Most likely, he’ll succeed.


29 posted on 05/29/2007 6:14:38 AM PDT by cake_crumb (May I never live to see the day America has a 'popular war'. God bless our troops.)
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To: rellimpank

Funny how profits are so huge and yet investors put their money elsewhere.

I mean, if making cheap gas was so damn easy, you’d expect billions of capital to flow into the refinery and oil company start-ups.

That fact that investors mostly stay away suggests that refining isn’t the big money-maker people think it is.


30 posted on 05/29/2007 6:15:44 AM PDT by mc6809e
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To: WhiteGuy

The total profits of Exxon last year were $39b, and the Dems inserted almost that much in the defense supplemental for spinach and peanuts. Big oil is puny next to Big Brother.


31 posted on 05/29/2007 6:16:41 AM PDT by ClaireSolt (Have you have gotten mixed up in a mish-masher?)
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To: raybbr

It should be obvious that BP is operating on a shoestring by their insipid “Say Hey” commercials with little cartoon japanime figures singing that inscrutable tune over and over.


32 posted on 05/29/2007 6:22:10 AM PDT by Rte66
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To: ClaireSolt
Look at Exxon's quarterly income statement - allowance for income taxes >$6 billion
33 posted on 05/29/2007 6:29:41 AM PDT by xcamel (Press to Test, Release to Detonate)
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To: xcamel

WOW! I am amazed that Missouri is second lowest.


34 posted on 05/29/2007 6:32:18 AM PDT by Just another Joe (Warning: FReeping can be addictive and helpful to your mental health)
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To: Kieri
Yeah, I use to live in Michigan and know your pain. Michigan could have been a wonderful state if it wasn’t so controlled by the liberals.

Don’t you find if funny that when the last Governor was in office, the news was all over him trying to get him to remove the gas tax. ( This was several years ago. ) Now that the Canadian Mole is in office, the news is quiet about that.

35 posted on 05/29/2007 6:34:58 AM PDT by dragonblustar
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To: rellimpank

I’d love to tell the next idiot Dem co-worker who complains about gas prices to go talk to our local lib Dem congressman, Ron Kind. Kind is against any kind of expansion of oil refineries, off-shore drilling, or drilling in ANWR. Naturally he is against any kind of cut in gas taxes too.


36 posted on 05/29/2007 6:35:33 AM PDT by driftless2
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To: RetiredArmy
The biggest three letter word in the English language.

Yep, and let's not ever forget that this country got started because of a rebellion against a 3% tax. The founding fathers are turning over in their graves with our current tax policy.....

37 posted on 05/29/2007 6:48:51 AM PDT by Thermalseeker (Just the facts, ma'am)
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To: xcamel

They also pay leases. Tax it coming out of the ground and coming out of the pump. Then try to pretend they are consumer friendly.


38 posted on 05/29/2007 7:19:21 AM PDT by ClaireSolt (Have you have gotten mixed up in a mish-masher?)
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To: ClaireSolt; All
The pols must keep you focused on the "evil oil companies" or you will begin to become educated to the fact that the pols themselves are the ones raping your wallet "7 ways to sunday"
39 posted on 05/29/2007 7:47:15 AM PDT by xcamel (Press to Test, Release to Detonate)
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To: Kieri
but we’ve got the 2nd highest gas prices next to California

Not quite.

$5.00 a gallon - Dillingham, Alaska
http://www.alaskagasprices.com/

40 posted on 05/29/2007 8:26:57 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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