At what point do the politicians realize that the people overwhelmingly oppose immigration?
Brains baking in the sun out there or what?
I think it turned him into a different kind of rod. I’ll elaborate no further. =)
The media can keep repeating this all they like, if the GOP did not want a Kennedy bill to pass they could filibuster it. Kyl is going along with it because he supports amnesty and guest worker programs and not because he didn't have a choice.
Get it? Whenever you surrender to the Communists, it's "pragmatism".
Someone on another thread speculated that he had been offered a post as a federal judge if he did this for Bush.
I don’t know whether that was speculation or based on knowledge of some kind. But I doubt whether Kyl suddenly turned stupid. Evidently he was working very hard as a point man for one of Bush’s pet projects.
I heard a radio talkshow host(sorry I forgot his name) point something out about the bill that I haven’t heard anywhere else and its important to take in. If all these illegal immigrants get visas then they wont be hireable for the jobs they are currently doing. They are hired for the very reason that they ARE illegal. Businesses don’t want to pay them as much as legal immigrants and they don’t want them on the books like they have to do with legal immigrants and citizens. Having them on the books means the IRS can calculate the payroll budget and see if its in line with gross revenues. If its not, audit time. So even if the illegals get visas, the demand for illegals wont go down. Either the newly legalized immigrants will be told that their pay will have to continue to be “under the table” like its always been or a flood of fresh illegals will step in to take their place.
Yes, thank you, Arizona. Just what do we American have to do to get the idiots we alledgedly elected to do the right thing? We are getting robbed, raped and murdered out here. Our jobs are going south and it’s all on our own nickel that we pay in taxes. We can’t afford to go to work anymore because gas is so high and I take the bus. We can’t afford to do anything. This is America and this is not what it should be.
They lament the high ($5000) fine! The clowns will file and get the money from “earned income” credits etc. After that out tax money is all theirs. I am not as mad about condemning IRS as others because it is CONGRESS that makes the laws. In essence, IRS has been turned into a welfare agency for those who work off the books, are on welfare, etc. etc.
Soon, soon, very soon, we will have “millions of Americans” below the poverty level and WE WILL PAY FOR THESE ILLEGALS!
I am sick and tired of the Libs trotting out Kids who will be separated from their illegal parents. Their parent did that to them, not I nor the US. Send them back. The parents are illegal, so the kids are biorn to those subject to a foreign power - therefor ILLEGAL and NOT AMERICAN CITIZENS.
Sen. KYL enforce current law and throw them out.
He got an 8 oz glass of arsenic with a tablespoon of milk in it. Congratulations on the milk, Hero.
Also, I wonder what words he just learned from his constituents that caused his little pals to titter so. Traitor, Betrayer, Backstabber, Liar, Quisling, Enemy Within, Fifth Columnist...
There’s something rotten in the state of Arizona.
After winning a bruising re-election battle last November in which immigration featured prominently,
I am sure the NYT did not do it on purpose but they actually explained Kyl’s position here. In November he was up for reelection so had to say what the constituents wanted to hear him say to get reelected. He will not be running again so doesn’t care now what people say. He has taken a ‘screw you’ attitude. What a fraudulent shyster he is. If Kyl is one of the most conservative that the Republicans have, they are in deep doo doo and so is this country and the American people.
They are gonna add 40-70 million people to the welfare roles.
Maybe Mr. Kyl should be more interested in getting “amnesty” to border agents Ramos and Campean instead of giving “amnesy” to lawbreaking illegal invaders.
Plus, if this amnesty goes through how many terrorists, rapists will get a z card?
WRITE! WRITE! WRITE! WRITE! TILL YOU RUN OUT OF INK IN YOUR PEN!
Bombard the Democrats as well, especially the ones that ran on an anti immigration plank and the ones in marginal districts who could be vulnerable. keep pounding on them.
The democrats must have something on him.
No Patriot Votes Republican Again. You have been HOSED too often by the Bush Brothers and dad.
Conservative Third Party?
By Basil Harrington
The GOP is on a downward course to becoming the party of corporate globalism, not conservatism, said one analyst recently. Unless Tom Tancredo, Ron Paul or Duncan Hunter receives the 2008 nomination, conservatives will have no choice but to vote third party, said another.
Conservatives all around the country are talking about the prospect of flocking to a conservative third party*, which more than likely would be the Constitution Party or the America First Party. If they were smart, they would look at the British National Party, Front National, and Vlaams Belang in Europe as models, all of which have made great strides. And unlike the phony neocon GOP in the U.S., these parties are conservative in the true sense: they want to conserve Western man and his ancestral traditions.
How has the GOP gone wrong?
First, there is no greater betrayal than over immigration. So tied to providing cheap labor for big business, all but two Republican Senators recently voted against Senator Dorgans amendment to scrap a guest-worker program that will overwhelmingly drive down American wages. They have sided with the corporate globalists against hard-working Americans.
There is a third-world invasion of the U.S. taking place, and many in the GOP (e.g. Bush, McCain, Giuliani, Brownback, Huckabee, Rice, et al.) have actually sided with the invaders against their fellow Americans. As Jean Raspail said in Camp of the Saints, the best conservative book ever written, we can make a stand now against the invaders, or we can watch the West crumble and become a third-world wasteland.
Second, the neocon war in Iraq must come to an end. The transformation of the Middle East to liberal democracy is Jacobin, not conservative. Its a product of Wilsonian utopianism, not conservatism. If we really want to end terrorism in the West, we need to (1) completely withdraw from the Middle East, (2) end foreign aid to all Middle Eastern countries, (3) deport all Muslims from the West, and (4) end all immigration from the third world.
Many do not realize it, but terrorism is primarily an immigration issue, as they are beginning to discover in the U.K. Three of the terrorists recently nabbed in New Jersey (plotting to attack Ft. Dix) were illegal immigrants who entered the U.S . from Mexico and were aided by Mexicans. Over 200,000 Hispanics in the U.S. have recently converted to Islam. And almost all previous terrorists, including those on Sept. 11, were either legal or illegal third-world immigrants. If Seung-Hui Cho had not been allowed to immigrate to the U.S., the Virginia Tech massacre would not have happened.
Third, free trade is destroying our economy and eroding away our sovereignty, and it must end. Historically, conservatives have opposed free trade, and they should, but many in the GOP have been neoconned on this issue and now support it in some perverse suicide pact.
The Democratic Party, which during the 19th century was the conservative party while the GOP was the radical left-wing party, is already lost to the globalists. And now it seems that the Republican Party is going the same route. Unless radical change is brought about in the GOP, conservatives will have no choice but foster third-party change.
The stakes are right. The U.S. is on its way to becoming a third-world wasteland. We must act now!
Is Kyl saying plans have been submitted to deport all illegals? Who determined the plan(s) were not "workable"? One problem we have is people telling the illegals that we can't deport 12 million of them. If we can not deport 12 million, how many do our government leaders think we can deport? No one can possibly think that every illegal will take them up on the amnesty deal. So, how many illegals are they prepared to deport? I'm calling Tuesday to ask. I want a number. Because, if they have no plans to deport at least six million this is just another sham on the American people.
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