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To: Bernard

It is amazing how conservatives start becoming anti-business, pro minimum wage when it comes to immigration. With full employment where do we come up with a low skilled, low wage labor force?? Where?

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193 posted on 05/27/2007 8:20:52 AM PDT by bray (The co-clintons freed more terrorists than they killed)
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To: bray
It is a problem in the prosperous western world. We are encouraging (rightly so) for people to be more educated and achieve the down side is as more opportunities become available for people from all walks of life expectations again quite right go up. People want better jobs, more money and job satisfaction but menial low paid jobs still have to be done.

The bottom line is that if the indigenous workforce cannot or will not do it then they have to import it but it should be a regulated legal import not an illegal one.

This of course does not address illegals already doing the jobs.

There are no easy answers and whatever is done or proposed you will never please everyone.

204 posted on 05/27/2007 8:30:04 AM PDT by snugs ((An English Cheney Chick - Big Time))
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To: bray
It is amazing how conservatives start becoming anti-business, pro minimum wage when it comes to immigration.

I am a conservative who is neither anti-business or pro minimum wage but I am also very pro rule of law and when that conflicts with ANYTHING else I will come down on the side of rule of law every single time!

206 posted on 05/27/2007 8:32:10 AM PDT by Bigun (IRS sucks @getridof it.com)
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To: bray
With full employment where do we come up with a low skilled, low wage labor force?? Where?

Teenagers and young adults.

304 posted on 05/27/2007 10:29:39 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Peace Begins in the Womb)
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To: bray
It is amazing how conservatives start becoming anti-business, pro minimum wage when it comes to immigration.

I am not anti-business. I am opposed to cheating, regardless of the format or the situation.

There are certain things that individuals must do in order to be productive members of society, and one of those is to be able to provide the impression backed by the reality of being basically honest, and willing to do the right thing, regardless of the personal cost. Without that, how can we ever expect to do business with each other?

As far as your question, With full employment where do we come up with a low skilled, low wage labor force?? Where? , the same place we always did before.

Minimum wage is an artificial construct used to set a floor limit for entry level positions, and in a strong free-market economy the only people who should be making minimum wage are high-school kids who are trying to make a few bucks on a part-time basis. Even there, the wage should be based on market value, and is when the competition for workers is strong enough to justify the higher expenditure.

Any adult trying to survive on minimum wage, or anything close to it, is either going to rely on the kindness of strangers, or rely on some big government program.

The other value of minimum wage in our society is a base line for union contracts, where any increase in the legal minimum wage drives an increase across all wage scales covered by the contract. Follow the money on union dues to union contracts to union donations to Democrats, and suddenly the Democrat fervor to increase the minimum wage is easier to understand.

In any event, please don't confuse me with somebody who is anti-business.

343 posted on 05/27/2007 10:56:15 AM PDT by Bernard (You can't fix stupid. Stop trying.)
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