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Carson's toxic legacy ("Silent Spring" author - green 'saint')
Globe & Mail - Toronto, Canada ^ | Thursday, May 24, 2007 | Margaret Wente

Posted on 05/26/2007 8:27:50 PM PDT by GMMAC

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1 posted on 05/26/2007 8:27:52 PM PDT by GMMAC
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2 posted on 05/26/2007 8:29:28 PM PDT by GMMAC (Discover Canada governed by Conservatives: www.CanadianAlly.com)
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To: GMMAC

Carson is a bigger mass murderer than Hitler!


3 posted on 05/26/2007 8:37:30 PM PDT by Mobile Vulgus
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To: Mobile Vulgus
Carson is a bigger mass murderer than Hitler!

I hope that's just your idea of a bad joke. There seem to be lots of bad jokes on FR these days, and many of them are not jokes.

4 posted on 05/26/2007 8:43:31 PM PDT by TChad
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To: TChad

Well, her lies have caused the deaths of many many people.


5 posted on 05/26/2007 8:45:32 PM PDT by The Worthless Miracle (I think Jamie Dupree is annoying.)
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To: GMMAC

We think of malaria as a problem of Third World countries, but I know one “developed” nation where malaria has been in the past, and could be again, a major killer. That nation is the United States of America.


6 posted on 05/26/2007 8:55:31 PM PDT by Christopher Lincoln
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To: The Worthless Miracle
Well, her lies have caused the deaths of many many people.

I would put it much differently.
It is the [Luddite-like] enviromental zealots that worshiped her erroneous postulations and used them to further their cause that have caused the deaths.

But speaking as one who came of age in the 60s, the ball was already rolling and the results we see now would have come about without her book. A lot of my contemporaries had nothing to believe in and the environmental causes filled that need.

IMO, when the Vietnam war ended, these people needed a guiding belief to fill that need which also furthered their anti-capitalistic goals.

7 posted on 05/26/2007 9:04:43 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s........you weren't really there)
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To: The Worthless Miracle
Well, her lies have caused the deaths of many many people.

Just like Hitler did at Auschwitz and Buchenwald, right?

It is worthwhile to discuss methods to increase indoor spraying of DDT in Africa.

It is not worth worthwhile to listen to comparisons of Rachel Carson and Hitler.

Hitler intended to kill as many Jews as possible. Rachel Carson did not intend to kill a single African. Can you see any difference between them now?

Why the hell am I wasting my time here? Good night.

8 posted on 05/26/2007 9:13:16 PM PDT by TChad
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I hope that's just your idea of a bad joke. There seem to be lots of bad jokes on FR these days, and many of them are not jokes.

Aside from the 40 million or so who have died of malaria and other tropical diseases in the last 45 years, you're right.
If we dismiss and ignore that little inconvenient fact; not that big a deal, really...

NOT!

9 posted on 05/26/2007 9:20:55 PM PDT by Publius6961 (MSM: Israelis are killed by rockets; Lebanese are killed by Israelis.)
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To: TChad

liberal alert
intentions are more important than results.
Hitler intended...
Rachel Carson did not intend...

Yes, but what actually happened???


10 posted on 05/26/2007 9:23:38 PM PDT by calljack (Sometimes your worst nightmare is just a start.)
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Hitler intended to kill as many Jews as possible. Rachel Carson did not intend to kill a single African. Can you see any difference between them now?

Well, no I don't.
I'm sorry you left.

Are you suggesting that Rachel was so monumentally stupid, ignorant and incompetent as to not know how many people died of malaria before she published her book?

If you believe that, the statement still holds, prefaced by the phrase, "Rachel Carson was so monumentally stupid that..."

11 posted on 05/26/2007 9:24:36 PM PDT by Publius6961 (MSM: Israelis are killed by rockets; Lebanese are killed by Israelis.)
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The road to hell is paved with good intentions.

She sure has a lot of deaths to account for and she didn’t spare any birds.. West Nile got them.


12 posted on 05/26/2007 9:29:37 PM PDT by TASMANIANRED (Taz Struck By Lightning Faces Battery Charge)
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-Snip-
Today, malaria cripples local economies and kills 2.7 million people every year - mostly children under 5. In a devastating investigative piece, New York Times journalist Tina Rosenberg wrote, "Silent Spring is now killing African children because of its persistence in the public mind."

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Silent Spring is riddled with anecdotal evidence and misleading assertions that flunk the most basic science test...........
'Ol Rachel kinda reminds one of good 'ol AlGore, huh?
I read her book way back when too.
I thought it was a load of crap back then and now I know it's a steaming pant load.
I'll bet Gore keeps a copy under his pillow.
13 posted on 05/26/2007 9:36:24 PM PDT by Fiddlstix (Warning! This Is A Subliminal Tagline! Read it at your own risk!(Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: TChad

‘Carson is a bigger mass murderer than Hitler!

I hope that’s just your idea of a bad joke. There seem to be lots of bad jokes on FR these days, and many of them are not jokes.’
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It’s not my idea of a bad joke, it’s my idea of an apt comment; you are my idea of a bad joke, Hanging Chad.


14 posted on 05/26/2007 9:44:37 PM PDT by Rembrandt (We would have won Viet Nam w/o Dim interference.)
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“Why the hell am I wasting my time here? Good night.”

On this, Hanging Chad, I agree wholeheartedly. Good night and good riddance.

See yaaaah


15 posted on 05/26/2007 9:47:37 PM PDT by Rembrandt (We would have won Viet Nam w/o Dim interference.)
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She decided that she knew better than everyone else, SHE was right - no one else could possibly be correct - and so her ends justified her means - unfortunately, she was wrong and millions died for her elitist certainty.


16 posted on 05/26/2007 9:53:03 PM PDT by The Worthless Miracle (I think Jamie Dupree is annoying.)
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Hitler intended to kill as many Jews as possible. Rachel Carson did not intend to kill a single African. Can you see any difference between them now? Well, no I don't.

I agree, I don't see much difference. Those who reacted to her book and flawed research undertook actions that killed untold tens of millions of innocent humans. That is evil. The very simple fact that few in the MSM, would bluntly repudiate her says a lot. She is still looked on as good because of her intentions.

It would be proper and just for leaders of the world to bluntly state, "Carson's book and research resulted in tens of millions of humans being killed for NO reason. She has been repudiated by facts and deserves no respect." Instead, we have PC leaders and evil leftists worshiping her still; disgusting. Imagine the 10's of millions of innocents in the third world in Africa if the likes of non-scientist Gore has his way with the biggest fraud in world history, AGW. Real science is being totally corrupted by the anti-capitalist and anti-human left. Environmental extremists, if they had their way, would make Hitler look like an amateur. Without strong leadership to fight them, the likes of Gore will continue to be hell bent of destroying our way of life, and purposely kill millions of innocents in the third world. That is evil.

17 posted on 05/26/2007 10:02:01 PM PDT by sand88 (q)
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To: The Worthless Miracle
She decided that she knew better than everyone else, SHE was right - no one else could possibly be correct - and so her ends justified her means - unfortunately, she was wrong and millions died for her elitist certainty.

Well stated. I hope she and Hitler will be in a hot place for eternity. She was evil in her actions.

18 posted on 05/26/2007 10:07:11 PM PDT by sand88 (q)
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To: TChad
Why the hell am I wasting my time here? Good night.

I for one do not think your time here tonight was wasted. Not one bit.

19 posted on 05/26/2007 10:14:31 PM PDT by sionnsar (trad-anglican.faithweb.com |Iran Azadi| 5yst3m 0wn3d - it's N0t Y0ur5 (SONY) | UN: Useless Nations)
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To: Rembrandt
Wrong.

TChad’s point is correct.

And intentions do matter.

Would you not agree there’s a difference if you drive over someone on the road by accident verses driving over them on purpose? If you’re honest you will admit the point. And that the consequences should be significantly different.

While Carson’s beliefs proved deadly it was clearly not her intention to kill people. Hitler was a mass murderer with every intention of killing people.

There’s been numerous large scale disasters from lead poisoning and phalidimide to dam failures where ignorance was deadly. That doesn’t make them Hitler or anything remotely similar. Get a grip.

20 posted on 05/26/2007 10:20:26 PM PDT by DB
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