Ron Paul and the 'kook squad' [Ron Paul's 9/11 Conspiracy Theory Albatross]

The Washington Times ^ | May 26, 2007 | Jonathon Moseley

[Moseley]

[snip] If Mr. Paul intends to stay in the race or even maintain his credibility, he needs to dissociate himself quickly from irresponsible accusations that the government is guilty of 3,000 counts of mass murder. Not only are such ideas offensive, but they are being used around the world to bash America and organize terrorist cells against us. American lives are endangered by such irresponsible propaganda.

For those who have not gone slumming on the Internet, the September 11 conspiracy theorists say no airplanes hit the Pentagon or the World Trade Center, even though hundreds of thousands of eyes watched the planes hit live, in person. They refuse to accept Osama bin Laden's proud claims of responsibility for September 11, instead "outing" bin Laden as a paid CIA agent. They claim that 30 tons of burning jet fuel could not melt steel, even though steel's strength is reduced at 1,000 degrees Celsius and melting is irrelevant. More than a dozen steel buildings have failed from fire alone. Last month, a burning fuel truck caused the steel in a San Francisco highway overpass to melt and fail. These people are not interested in answers or truth, but only in bashing America with falsehoods.

It's the same old story. When liberals thought "maverick" John McCain was useful for undermining President Bush and Republicans, he was the darling of the news media and liberals pretending to be Republican voters. Now that Mr. McCain is supporting Mr. Bush's position on the dominant issue of the day, the mainstream news media has shunned Mr. McCain like an old mistress once the affair is over.

[Blue_Ridge_Mtn_Geek]

“She’s definitely a lot prettier than Ron! She’s even prettier than Edwards.”

“She?” Uh, hate to disappoint ya. Try “It”.

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So I’ve been told (see #30, and my response at #33).

[Dead Corpse]

Paul may not have explicitly accused the U.S. government or Mossad off the 9/11 terrorist attacks on conspiracy-oriented radio shows.

There is no "may" about it, if you read carefully, he didn't say anything of the sort.

If the GOP cheerleaders were at all serious about getting a real Conservative elected, they'd back off a lot of the mudslinging at Paul. LEt him draw off the lib-tard vote. By the time they figure out this guy is no socialist and may in fact be their worst nightmare, it'd be too late.

What conservatives need to do is realize that just because the moronic "truthers" and "blame America first crowd" are gloming on to what others are saying he said, does not mean that Dr. Paul is a "truther" or a terrorist sympathizer.

Quite the contrary. He's a hard core Constitutionalist who'd use our military might not as a global police force, but as a global bug zapper to kill those who'd dare attack us.

[Dead Corpse]

You know, you were a favorite of mine when you were posting those translations of captured Iraqi documents. But on these Ron Paul threads, you just wade in with the insults and trollish behavior.

Step back, take a deep breath, and really thhink about what Dr. Paul said. He wasn't blaiming us or making excuses for Al Queda. He isn't advocating running away from a fight or any kind of "head in the sand" barricade mentality.

He's neither a traitor nor a lunacic, but possibly that lasast real Constitutionalist in Congress.

[DarthVader]

Congressman RuPaul the Zanti Misfit!

[joseph20]

Ron Paul needs to separate himself from the kooks

Does that include breaking the mirrors in his house?

[Dead Corpse]

Why would he want to distance himself? An intelligent person will read what Dr. Paul has actually put into print, come to the correct conclusions, and just sit back and laugh at the silly morons who think he's a "truther" conspiracy nut.

If it garners him a plurality in the vote totals, the strategy could pay off.

What we need to do is to stop feeding into the idiotic hysteria over what people have said he said. Even during the debate, Rudy jumped immediately to the wrong conclusion and thereby proved he was only trying to spin what the good Doctor had said to his own advantage. Certain posters here on FR don't like how liberty minded Dr. Paul is and will only support their chosen RINOs over a real Constitution loving individual with a proven track record of supporting individual Rights and our Republic.

[Bogtrotter52]

LOL! You win, you win. Is indeed prettier than Ron Paul and Edwards. And like Edwards “she” is a phony and has little else but “pretty” going for he/she/it.

[_Jim]

Why would he want to distance himself? An intelligent person will read what Dr. Paul has actually put into print ...

Oh right.

'Smartest kid in the class' - simply elect him.

Mr. Lily-livered.

RuPaul can't even 'cleran up' his own house re: the bona-fide crazies and expects to have success dealing with THE CRAZIES in the rest of the world that actually have POWER?

Get real.

They would 'roll through' him ...

[Dead Corpse]

Lily-livered? For wanting a "real" War and for all US Citizens to take an active part in their defense by having unrestricted RKBA?

Whatever you are smoking... I'm betting it ain't good for you.

[NHGOPer]

That’s right..it was the media who turned it into the ‘we did it’ stuff. None of that is anywhere in his platform that I can see. He is merely saying that we need to question our foreign policy and not piss off so many people, not that ‘we did it’.. Geesh.

Hey you can’t pick your supporters and if people want to question something that is their business — it doesn’t hurt me. The CPUSA supported Kerry and no one seemed to care about that.

I like the idea that he wants to eradicate the IRS and I also discovered that he has NEVER voted for a tax increase in 10 years in congress. Now that’s a stellar record.

And when you see these people up close and personal as we do here in NH, you would hate the other 3 guys even more. Heck at the rally , Paul had twice as many supporters as any of the others! How do you figure that?

In NH we also like our guns...so Rudy isn’t going to cut it. Really we are worried about just who can win against Hillary...the Democrats will say they are anti-war but they will just lie to please the supposedly 70% of all Americans who are...

There is no accounting for stupid people who vote for Democrats.

[johnreed]

[DesScorp]

"They should be ashamed and embarassed...but I doubt they are"

I'll never be ashamed or embarrassed for opposing a man that blames his own country for the worst attack on it since Pearl Harbor. He deserves every bit of scorn, every chunk of derision, and every ounce of dripping bile he receives.

[Moseley]

Step back, take a deep breath, and really thhink about what Dr. Paul said. He wasn't blaiming us or making excuses for Al Queda. He isn't advocating running away from a fight or any kind of "head in the sand" barricade mentality. He's neither a traitor nor a lunacic, but possibly that lasast real Constitutionalist in Congress.

No, I am afraid that is exactly what he was saying. And don't forget that when an American traitor -- er, politician -- says such things inside the USA, it is trumpted across the Middle East as evidence that the USA is wrong, and Muslim murderers and terrorists are correct. DO YOU HONESTLY THINK THAT ANY ISLAMIC PROPAGANDIST WILL PASS UP SUCH AN OPPORTUNITY TO SHOW THAT THE USA IS EVIL? At the very least, Ron Paul should be disqualified as President because he is naive and foolish in saying things that our enemies will use. Those statements will be used to recruit terrorists and combatants to kill Americans and American soldiers. Ron Paul's comments will directly lead to the death of Americans, by energizing and motivating and recruiting Islamic fighters.

As to Ron Paul being a Constitutionalist, I am afraid he is not. Ron Paul is an anti-Constitutionalist. Ron Paul does not accept the power that the Constitution entrusts to the Congress. Ron Paul's position was argued at the Constitutional Convention in Philadelphia and REJECTED by the Constitutional Convention. Ron Paul is an advocate of the Articles of Confederation that the Constitution replaced.

Paul is simply flat wrong on what the Constitution says. Paul's reading of the Constitution is nothing short of bizarre. Now, the Congress does not read the Constitution correctly, either. But the solution to one bizarre theory is not an equally bizarre and unpersuasive theory that no one will take seriously.

[Dead Corpse]

The power we delegated to Congress has limits. Ron Paul is the only one currently in Congress who seems to respect those limits. If you have one shred of proof he's "anti-Constitution", you'd better post it.

As it is, you just posted a whole boatload of unsupported slander.

[Austin Willard Wright]

Boy, you must be really worried about Paul. This is the second article you’ve posted on this strange theory that he is a 9/11 truther.

[_Jim]

BTTT

[_Jim]

Boy, you must be really worried about Paul. This is the second article you've posted on this strange theory that he is a 9/11 truther.

Funny ... L. Ron Paul has an affinity for appearing on Alex Jones' shortwave radio show, and Alex is a really prominent 9-11 'truther', so it is hard to believe that he doesn't have any affinity for those people ...

[Moseley]

If you have one shred of proof he's "anti-Constitution", you'd better post it. As I wrote, Ron Paul rejects the Constitutional power and role given by the Constitution to the U.S. Congress. While no doubt Congress has exceeded the boundaries of its authority frequently, Ron Paul goes to the other extreme. Ron Paul's views violate what the Constitution clearly says about Congress' role and authority. The Constitution grants Congress the power to make the very decisions that Ron Paul complains about. NOW, AGAIN: Congress has exceeded its authority on the one hand. But Ron Paul's objections to Congress' actions go to the other extreme. What Ron Paul would restrict are clearly the right and power of Congress to decide.

[wideawake]

link him to the kooks

Is Alex Jones a kook?

Because no Paulestinian can deny that he's been a welcome guest on Alex Jones' show.

[Cheetahcat]

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