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New Fertility Laws Say Dads Not Needed To Make Babies
ThisIsLondon.co.uk ^ | ThisIsLondon.co.uk

Posted on 05/24/2007 6:46:13 PM PDT by Iam1ru1-2

The changes will make it easier for single people and lesbians to receive fertility treatment on the NHS.

The move, which is part of a shake-up of laws on the use of human tissues, will also allow the creation of " Frankenstein" embryos - human and animal cells mixed together - for medical research.

Under current laws, fertility clinics have to consider the baby's need for a father before providing treatment. But today's draft Human Tissue and Embryos Bill says this is no longer necessary.

The draft legislation bans couples from choosing the gender of their child. It also tightens the law on screening embryos for diseases, a subject of heated ethical debate as it could lead to parents aborting potentially unhealthy babies and see insurance companies refusing people with a genetic illness.

Permitting the use of hybrid embryos for medical research is a major Uturn by ministers.

Initially, the Government had come out against Frankenstein embryos, fearing a backlash from religious groups. Health Minister Caroline Flint said today she been persuaded by the arguments from the science communities and MPs.

Under the proposed laws, scientists will be allowed to create human-animal chimeras - human embryos that have been mixed with animal cells.

Sir David King, the Government's chief scientific adviser, said he welcomed the move: "I believe that the approach to the creation of embryos containing human and animal material is the right one."

Dr Stephen Minger, director of King's College Stem Cell Biology Laboratory, said: "This research is important because these stem cell lines could help us to understand what goes wrong in catastrophic neurological disorders like Alzheimer's disease and Parkinson's disease."

Pro- life groups have reacted with anger to the draft bill. Josephine Quintavalle, of the campaign group Comment on Reproductive Ethics, said: "It is appalling that the government has bowed to pressure from the random collection of self-interested scientists and change its prohibitive stance.

Ms Flint defended the Government's change in attitude towards hybrid embryos saying medical advances had allowed "us to get in the place where we are now".

She said all the proposals would be subject to scrutiny by a joint parliamentary committee before being introduced as a bill.

Other measures in the draft legislation include:

• Banning couples from choosing the gender of their baby.

• Couples in same sex civil partnerships should have equal rights as parents in traditional marriages.

• The regulation of internet sperm services.

• Tightening of laws on screening embryos for genetic diseases.

• Allow donor conceived children to find out if they have donor conceived siblings.

The Government is also recommending a change to the rules over the use of frozen sperm and the issue of withdrawal of consent.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: greekmythologyalive; mananimal; monsters

1 posted on 05/24/2007 6:46:15 PM PDT by Iam1ru1-2
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To: Iam1ru1-2; NYer; wagglebee; monkapotamus; All

hey Wagglebee and Nyer ping your list


2 posted on 05/24/2007 6:48:41 PM PDT by SevenofNine ("We are Freepers, all your media belong to us, resistence is futile")
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To: SevenofNine

Are they inseminating that she won’t need me anymore? :-(


3 posted on 05/24/2007 7:07:15 PM PDT by Nasty McPhilthy (Those who beat their swords into plow shears will plow for those who don't.)
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To: Nasty McPhilthy

Probably with Brit laws that are liberial that here in the US it be matter of the time that woman won’t need a man to “sire” a child


4 posted on 05/24/2007 7:08:59 PM PDT by SevenofNine ("We are Freepers, all your media belong to us, resistence is futile")
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To: SevenofNine

We’re doomed.


5 posted on 05/24/2007 7:12:08 PM PDT by Nasty McPhilthy (Those who beat their swords into plow shears will plow for those who don't.)
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To: Nasty McPhilthy

“We’re doomed.”


No you’re not.

I’m a “she” and needed my husband to help raise my kids.

We need you guys!!!!


6 posted on 05/24/2007 7:18:11 PM PDT by Mears
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To: Iam1ru1-2

Men will always be BORG. At the end of the day women will need warriors. On the other hand,since they seem amenable to battered woman syndrom they might not mind being a concubine in a muslim household with four wives and unlimited concubines as permited by islam.


7 posted on 05/24/2007 7:22:59 PM PDT by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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To: Cacique
"Men will always be BORG. At the end of the day women will need warriors."

BUT, if the woman whom he has intimate relations with happens to be a product of this mixed animal/human creation, the offsprings might be a Pan, Minataur, Cyclops, or some other Greek mythological(?) character.

8 posted on 05/24/2007 7:42:18 PM PDT by Iam1ru1-2 (The Rainbow only covers floods, not fire. He said next time it will be by FIRE!!)
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To: Mears
"I’m a “she” and needed my husband to help raise my kids."

Oh, married to one of those "Girlie Men" are you?

9 posted on 05/24/2007 7:43:25 PM PDT by Iam1ru1-2 (The Rainbow only covers floods, not fire. He said next time it will be by FIRE!!)
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To: Iam1ru1-2
The regulation of internet sperm services

They need a regulating body for this?
10 posted on 05/24/2007 7:51:18 PM PDT by kinoxi
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To: kinoxi
Seems like ‘buyer beware’ is inherent in the concept.
11 posted on 05/24/2007 7:51:59 PM PDT by kinoxi
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To: Lady In Blue; Salvation; narses; SMEDLEYBUTLER; redhead; Notwithstanding; nickcarraway; Romulus; ...
The move, which is part of a shake-up of laws on the use of human tissues, will also allow the creation of " Frankenstein" embryos - human and animal cells mixed together - for medical research.

Vatican Document on Human Life

“Though it is true that sometimes it is lawful to tolerate a lesser moral evil in order to avoid a greater evil or in order to promote a greater good," it is never lawful, even for the gravest reasons, to do evil that good may come of it (18)—in other words, to intend directly something which of its very nature contradicts the moral order, and which must therefore be judged unworthy of man, even though the intention is to protect or promote the welfare of an individual, of a family or of society in general.”

HUMANAE VITAE

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12 posted on 05/25/2007 7:50:40 AM PDT by NYer ("Where the bishop is present, there is the Catholic Church" - Ignatius of Antioch)
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To: NYer
The changes will make it easier for single people and lesbians to receive fertility treatment on the NHS.

How does that work, exactly?

The move, which is part of a shake-up of laws on the use of human tissues, will also allow the creation of " Frankenstein" embryos - human and animal cells mixed together - for medical research.

God help us.

Humanae Vitae bump!

13 posted on 05/25/2007 8:55:57 AM PDT by Aquinasfan (When you find "Sola Scriptura" in the Bible, let me know)
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To: Iam1ru1-2

Sir David Satan King, the Government’s chief scientific adviser, said he welcomed the move: “I believe that the approach to the creation of embryos containing human and animal material is the right one.”


14 posted on 05/25/2007 9:07:55 AM PDT by philetus (Keep doing what you always do and you'll keep getting what you always get.)
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To: Iam1ru1-2

human/animal hybrids are inevitable. It was implied in Huxley’s Brave New World. It’s been the subject of numerous sci fi books and comics. It’s been in the movies and cartoons. All of this and more has softened any ethical horror we may feel. Human/animal hybrids will probably also be needed for space travel and other work in extreme environments.

I’m horrified by and it will be emailing those folks. Whoever these ministers are, they fail to realize they have been gripped by a demonic madness which has stripped them of all common sense.


15 posted on 05/25/2007 9:15:33 AM PDT by bioqubit (bioqubit, conformity - such a common deformity)
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To: philetus

Sir David Satan King, the Government’s chief scientific adviser, said he welcomed the move: “I believe that the approach to the creation of embryos containing human and animal material is the right one.”


A sound decision. The wrong decision, but a sound decision.


16 posted on 05/25/2007 9:17:10 AM PDT by bioqubit (bioqubit, conformity - such a common deformity)
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To: Iam1ru1-2

But but but who will pay the child support???


17 posted on 05/25/2007 9:19:19 AM PDT by null and void (Carter calling Bush worst president in U.S. history is like Michael Moore calling Ann Coulter fat...)
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To: Cacique

It spreads the beatings out a little...


18 posted on 05/25/2007 9:20:22 AM PDT by null and void (Carter calling Bush worst president in U.S. history is like Michael Moore calling Ann Coulter fat...)
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