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I know people are upset right now, but I don’t see this bill going anywhere. The two week delay was a big clue that politicians are becoming scared. The Republicans’ desire to stay in office will ultimately be greater than their greed for more big business contributions. Liberal Moonbats will oppose it because it doesn’t go far enough in their view. Thus, nothing will happen.

If it was going to pass, it would have been done in the dead of night and been on Bush’s desk the next morning, like they do with the pay raises.

I’m not so sure. They’re going to debate and wrangle and talk over all these details, and eventually convince themselves they’ve done something good. The details, as to whether it’s 100,000, 500,000 guest workers, whether illegals have to touchback or not, whether it’s one day or one week to conduct the background checks are all IRRELEVANT. They will try to convince us it a great bill, but will all know they are not going to enforce ANY of it. Other than to issue the probationary visas, which in absence of any enforcement, are de facto citizenship.

If it was going to pass, it would have been done in the dead of night and been on Bush’s desk the next morning, like they do with the pay raises.

Don't underestimate Bush and the Democrats. The administration has pulled out all the stops, labeling the conservative base as bigots, or worse, if you listen to Chertoff's vitriol.

The Dems see it as the perfect storm; do nothing, say nothing, and let Bush, the Rinos and those he can browbeat into submission destroy the Republican party. The Dems will gladly turn America into a balkanized welfare state in return for the prospect of remaining in power for decades, and Bush obviously cares not a whit about the damage.

The two week delay was a big clue that politicians are becoming scared.

All reports are that the spontaneous calls, emails, faxes and letters were overwhelming in number, and also overwhelming in opposition.

On C-SPAN yesterday, Rep. Royce of California said "1000 to 1 against". When I called the RNC on Friday, the lady taking my call said "3,000 calls an hour", and she did not sound very cheery.

Conversely, my own Sen. John Warner's (RINO, VA) office said they'd received "some calls in support". When I asked why anyone from Virginia would call a Republican senator to support it, and what they were saying, I got a vague "Oh, just that they are in favor," which was clearly a falsehood. I felt like I was talking to a Democratic senator's staff.

So I think we (citizens) have gotten them to back off for a while, but the pressure should be kept on until the bill's demise is certain.

Sorry as I am to say it, I'm quite certain that GWB will try this again, some way and somehow, before Jan 2009.

The Senate bill is not dead by a long shot. As long as business interests keep pushing for it the Pubbies are more likely to support it since those groups are heavy donors to their campaigns. The Congress-critters are most interested in one thing, getting re-elected, giving the grass roots the shaft.

'I don’t see this bill going anywhere"

I would not be so sure, the attempt to quickly pass it failed, which really is a shame cause that would have really stroked the fires in the GOP base and ensured it's defeat in the House. Now things are cooling off a bit making possible it's passage in the Senate in a week or too. As we all knew the fight is still going to be in the House. That's how it looked a week ago and that's how it still looks. I've read 70 GOP are needed to pass, surely a fired up GOP base can keep 70 R's in line. The thing I worry about is a NAFTA like lame duck session.