Key California Republican Group Endorses Ron Paul

Ron Paul 2008 ^ | 05/21/2007

[The_Eaglet]

Thanks for adding some important context to this discussion. I enjoyed reading that statement.

[The_Eaglet]

No the facts are that Rudy was disingenuous and apparently hadn't picked up anything to read in the past 5 years. Else he would have known Rep. Paul was not making an 'absurd' statement but one that was given as a reason by a committee commissioned by the government Rudy wants to run

I have seen some stories circulating that Rudy had known about the blowback concerns. Had he remembered during the debate he might have conducted himself in a more reasonable manner.

[The_Eaglet]

Nobody beats Fred fiscally.

Ron Paul does.

[jellybean]

LOL! You are okay, jb. :o)

Ditto! :)

[proudCArepublican]

me neither and I am a CA Republican. So I am not sure about this group.

[RockinRight]

Nobody ELECTABLE AND NOT CRAZY beats Fred fiscally.

[Godzilla]

me neither and I am a CA Republican. So I am not sure about this group.

Two guys and a computer.

[John D]

I also understand why you choose to bash a Conservative running for President.
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I don’t think she was bashing a conservative, I think she was bashing a white flag waving coward. Cowards are not conservative.

[Czar]

"I have this funny feeling that this current crop of traitors in the Senate wouldn’t quite know how to respond to 50,000 armed Americans standing quietly outside the Senate."

You mean other than soil their underwear...

[The_Eaglet]

Fred is not electable as he has not declared candidacy.

[James W. Fannin]

This is one thing that I have never quite understood. Where do we get the right to demand no proliferation from another sovereign nation?

Wait a minute, B4. What has all that talk about multiculturalism and globalism meant to you? Did you think it was all for pulling back America's influence? Not a chance! With the rate of knowledge expanding in the world today, there is no way we can ignore the technological developments of our enemies and retreat into "playing nice."

I'll tell you what the opposite of globalism means to me. It means understanding that we are so much more advanced than the rest of the world that we have an obligation to protect our advantage. It means that western civilization is the most important civilization on the planet. It tells me that Americans and their fellow allies in France, Denmark, Poland, and the British Commonwealth are the caretakers of the modern world, having defeated the Tripartite Germans, Italians, and Japanese during WWII, and also having brought down the Soviet Union at the end of the Cold War.

I have no interest in permitting tinhorn dictators from threatening America or its interests of any kind. I am not an isolationist by any means. If there's a threat to my people, I say erradicate it. End of story.

I'm the opposite of an isolationist in every way. The difference between me and a globalist is that I love the American people much more than others on the planet. It's really that simple for me. I could never consider isolating America and ending the advance of liberty that has happened since WWII. But we owe those who died in WWII a strong stewardship for the peace and prosperity that they bought for us with their blood. It shall never have been given for naught.

"Messing in the Open on Okinawa," by John A. Ruge. (Army Art Collection)

[James W. Fannin]

If we are going to be a nation of cowards then we deserve to lose everything.

The cowards were the ones who signed the Immigration Act of 1965. The cowards were the ones who legalized abortion. The cowards were the ones who traded with China in order to open up new investment opportunities when the old ones seemed to be drying up. The cowards were the ones who failed to invest in their own American people. Cowards send our troops to Iraq to fight without the will to crush our enemies.

We live in the world they created. I think you should consider the casualty rates in Iraq and understand that Americans are not cowards. Misguided, yes. Misguided by cowards? Yes, in come cases. But the American people themselves are not cowards, The operative noun here is guidance. You need to harness that intelligence and experience of yours for improving the guidance of your fellow Americans first, before you think about anything else.

Cacique will tell you why he's not a coward. He's not afraid to stand up to the weak ones in Washington. He may have understood that their weakness is profound. Perhaps they can be brought down like a house of cards. They're not afraid of force. They're afraid of information. Information exists to rip their world to shreds. Find it. Let it loose. Share it with others, especially here. Information is what drove the Minutemen in 1775. Information will drive us in 2008. Find us information! The rest will follow. Cacqique has done more to inspire me than anyone else has in the last decade, by the way. He reminds me of the Americans who understood that giving their lives on Okinawa was the right thing at that particular time. Cacique thinks FAXes and letters are the right thing right now. But we need more information for those communications. You can get it, B4. Go do it.

[Cacique]

I appreciate your kind words, but I am just a keyboard jockey. Men like my father and those who serve now and are ready to bleed in places like Iraq deserve more of the accolades as they allow us to rant here. My objective is to make sure that their memory is notstained by having us abandon the priciples for which they sacrficed and are sacrificing still. If we lose this battle, the nation which they fought for will have dissapeared, conquered without benefit of having fired a shot.


I posted the following on another thread last week. I hope the story serves as inspiration for others.:

 

 

What I do is nothing, sitting on a keyboard is easy. I will relate a story so that you have an understanding. One of my heores, besides my father, was Vladimir Bukovsky.

He spent most of his formative years from the age of 17 over 12 years in the Soviet Gulag. In 1976 he was exiled in exchange for some Chilean dissident.

In any case, sometime in 1976 I was watching him being interviewed by Barbara Walters in a Hotel in Paris after his exile. She asked him why every time he was release he would the next day go back to the street and demonstrate against the Kremlin knowing he would be thrown back in prison. His answer has stayed with me all these years. He looked he straight in the eyes and simply told her. "If not I then who?" I doubdt to this day that hse understood what he was saying. But that is the question we all must ask ourselves. It was at that moment that I understood also why my father risked his life opposing communists in Europe and then in South America and why we came here.

That is what we must all ask ourselves.

[B4Ranch]

Did you ever read what former Colorado Governor Richard D. Lamm had to say about 'multiculturalism'? >>"(snip) to destroy America, "Invent 'multiculturalism' and encourage immigrants to maintain their culture. I would make it an article of belief that all cultures are equal. That there are no cultural differences. I would make it an article of faith that the Black and Hispanic dropout rates are due to prejudice and discrimination by the majority. Every other explanation is out of bounds."<<

The Republican method of globalism being promoted by this President appears to be making trading treaties which will disolve our sovereign borders and sharing the advanced manufacturing technologies of American industries with foreigners while strengthening the financial situation of the United Nations.

I have never been accused of promoting "retreat into "playing nice." I prefer to annihilate enemies so there is no possibility of recurrence.

Speaking of dictators, have you read this article? Bush grants presidency extraordinary powers Directive for emergencies apparently gives authority without congressional oversight.

In no way shape or form am I a an isolationist. I'll agree to trade with every nation on earth as long as they give us the same opportunities that we give them.

I do not believe that they should have any advantages that our manufacturers won't receive from them. Anyone not willing to play fair can keep their toys off our shelves.

[NapkinUser]

"Really? How’d that work out?" I guess pretty well. Goldwater won the primary over that loser Rockefeller.

[NapkinUser]

“(chuckle)”

Also, why do you always find the need to write out laughts at your own posts?

[NapkinUser]

“You need to pick the best conservative who can win—the nomination—in 2008.”

So who is that? Giulaini?

You listen to the media way too much. You believe who they tell you is the top-tier. Sucker.

[B4Ranch]

>>The cowards were the ones who signed the Immigration Act of 1965. The cowards were the ones who legalized abortion. The cowards were the ones who traded with China in order to open up new investment opportunities when the old ones seemed to be drying up. The cowards were the ones who failed to invest in their own American people. Cowards send our troops to Iraq to fight without the will to crush our enemies.<<

I am in total agreement. Why do we have cowards representing us? Are we stupid? Why do we allow our representatives to promote this kind of policy. When are we going to wake up and remove these traitors who refuse to protect our people, our Constitution and our nation? Are we cowards also?

>> I think you should consider the casualty rates in Iraq and understand that Americans are not cowards.<<

Never have I suggested that our military troops are cowards. I am saying that we, the voters are the cowards. We are the ones who refuse to demand that our representatives obey their oath of office.

>> Cacique thinks FAXes and letters are the right thing right now.<<

I think telephone calls are much more effective. The problem is that it is almost impossible to get a face to face meeting with your state senator or congressman. They hate having discussions with voters where there is not any control over the questions asked.

[jonrick46]

Great post! Thanks.

[James W. Fannin]

Why do we have cowards representing us? Are we stupid?

As I've said, Dick Morris was right. The current demographics, as decreed by the Immigration Act of 1965 and 60 years of multicultural social engineering have altered our society to the point where these are the leaders we democratically elect.

I believe this is the fundamental nature of our challenge. There is no immediate democratic solution. However, I also would argue that the nation these leaders are shaping is in no one's interest. Information that proves this to minorities and "former minorities" is possibly the only tool we have to fight this battle.

Finding and communicating this information may be key. Right now we're just setting strategy among patriots, but we're not reaching the Mexican-American citizens who might be pro-Bush because they believe he's on the side of their families in Mexico. It might be that learning Spanish is more important than calling our Congressman.