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The GOP has become the party of neoliberal corporate globalism, not the party of conservatism

If Tom Tancredo, Ron Paul or Duncan Hunter does not get the GOP nomination, then vote third party. Refuse to support the neocon / neoliberal globalist machine. If the GOP continues down this path, it is doomed anyway and, hopefully, out of the ashes a true conservative party will arise, perhaps the Constitution Party or the America First Party.

1 posted on 05/22/2007 9:29:45 AM PDT by SittinYonder
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2 posted on 05/22/2007 9:30:35 AM PDT by SittinYonder (Ic þæt gehate, þæt ic heonon nelle fleon fotes trym, ac wille furðor gan)
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Fred to the rescue!


3 posted on 05/22/2007 9:32:47 AM PDT by traderrob6
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If we really want to end terrorism in the U.S., then we should completely disengage from the Middle East. We should (1) completely withdraw from the Middle East, (2) end foreign aid to all Middle Eastern countries, (3) deport all Muslims from the West, and (4) end all immigration from the third world.

As nice as this sounds, the author needs a reality check

4 posted on 05/22/2007 9:32:54 AM PDT by grb
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neoliberal corporate globalism

Smells like conspiracy theory to me......

5 posted on 05/22/2007 9:35:02 AM PDT by Ben Mugged (Always cheat; always win. The only unfair fight is the one you lose.)
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They’re defenitely in full scale meltdown.


6 posted on 05/22/2007 9:37:44 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Greed is NOT a conservative ideal.)
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Looks like the makings of a DU/Libertarian thread.


7 posted on 05/22/2007 9:37:48 AM PDT by Parley Baer
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I have problems with this "third world" horsesh-t.

1. Latin America is a "child" of the west, as Jeane Kirkpatrick has pointed out, among others. You have countries with a very heavy indigeenous influence (southern Mexico, Bolivia), and those with a heavily African influence (Brazil, Puerto Rico), but the political institutions and social mores are "western." This is NOT the case with the Chinese, Arabs, Pakis, etc.

2. Euro-peons aren't exactly producing children, nor are they showing much initiative in anything other than producing bloated aircraft subsidized by the taxpayer.

3. Better an Indian with a brain and a knowledge of capital formation than a pedantic Frenchman anyday of the week.

Build a fence, AGGRESSIVELY enforce labor laws on businesses, and deport when possible, to say nothing of ending family reunification. No amnesty, no race baiting (on EITHER side of the issue).

8 posted on 05/22/2007 9:38:14 AM PDT by Clemenza (Rudy Giuliani, like Pesto and Seattle, belongs in the scrap heap of '90s Culture)
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Basil Harrington, is in denial if he thinks either Tom Tancredo or Ron Paul even have a chance, flee if you must Basil, maybe you can find someone to attach yourself too ...like Pat Buchanan, or Ross Perot. If you were a liberal you could attach yourself to Dennis Kunicich. Extremes will never make it from either party, you come off looking like Kooks.


9 posted on 05/22/2007 9:38:16 AM PDT by AmericanMade1776
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The piece makes some good points, but the isolationist foreign policy is a recipe for disaster. We can’t disengage. It’s too late. We’re stuck to the tar baby. If we leave the Middle East, we leave a vacuum that will be filled by Wahabbist terrorists and Shi’a fanatics.

We’re going to end up having to bludgeon down a significant portion of the Islamic world, I’m afraid, before we can think about reducing our commitments in the Middle East. That, and find ways to wean ourselves from their oil.

}:-)4


11 posted on 05/22/2007 9:39:25 AM PDT by Moose4 (Deport 'em. I don't need landscaping and I'll pay more for lettuce.)
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The Democratic Party, which in the 19th century was the conservative party while the GOP was the left-wing party

With this one sentence, Basil proves himself to be a mo-ron.

12 posted on 05/22/2007 9:39:33 AM PDT by Clemenza (Rudy Giuliani, like Pesto and Seattle, belongs in the scrap heap of '90s Culture)
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Iraq is a huge mistake, a neocon experiment in utopianism, and we are paying the price.

The English language desperately needs a sound effect for eye-rolling.
15 posted on 05/22/2007 9:40:53 AM PDT by Terpfen (It's your fault, not Pelosi's.)
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If Tom Tancredo, Ron Paul or Duncan Hunter does not get the GOP nomination, then vote third party.

Already there.


16 posted on 05/22/2007 9:41:56 AM PDT by WhiteGuy (GOP Congress - 16,000 earmarks costing US $50 billion in 2006 - PAUL2008)
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I might agree with his headline, but not some of his reasons. The idea that we have no place in Iraq and it's utopian for there to be democracy in the Middle East is Bob Novak style isolationism

But I predict (I am well aware my predictions are small potatoes) that the GOP is heading for extinction. The GOP leadership is brain dead, they aren't leading. GWB is trying to protect political capital he doesn't have any more.

Maybe Thompson can bail out the GOP.

17 posted on 05/22/2007 9:45:30 AM PDT by Williams
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If we really want to end terrorism in the U.S., then we should completely disengage from the Middle East. We should (1) completely withdraw from the Middle East, (2) end foreign aid to all Middle Eastern countries, (3) deport all Muslims from the West, and (4) end all immigration from the third world.

You might (and I stress might) come close to ending "terrorism". However, you will ensure a more-"conventional" military attack on the US because the Islamokazis are now aware of our presence, and they'll be left completely unchecked in their quest to acquire the military means to make America part of their worldwide caliphate.

18 posted on 05/22/2007 9:45:39 AM PDT by steveegg (I am John Doe.)
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I love rants, but this part was stupid:

If Seung-Hui Ch? had not been allowed to immigrate hither, the Virginia Tech massacre would not have happened.

22 posted on 05/22/2007 9:48:06 AM PDT by Paradox (In the final analysis, its mostly a team sport, Principles cast off like yesterdays free agents.)
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In spite of the author’s passion, the piece comes off as an unfocused rant.


23 posted on 05/22/2007 9:49:29 AM PDT by GSWarrior
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And then there's free trade, which is destroying our economy and undermining our sovereignty

Sorry. The facts show otherwise. Protectionism is a far bigger danger. Also, this idea of a third party just plays into the hands of liberals and allows them to take over completely.

What is going on right now with the immigration issue shows that we do have power over elected officials when we get off our duffs and let them know.

26 posted on 05/22/2007 9:51:07 AM PDT by Conservativegreatgrandma
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“neoliberal corporate globalism, not the party of conservatism,”

What exactly is “conservative” about: high trade barriers, public ownership of businesses, large government budget deficits, or government subsidies for special interests? Those are all things neoliberalism is against — classical liberalism for that matter.

The term “liberal” doesn’t mean the same in the U.S. that it does elsewhere. (Or at least used to mean.) The term was co-opted by socialists in the U.S. Of course, the new American definition of “liberal” is spreading to the rest of the world — so it’s just a matter of time before no one remembers a time when being a “liberal” wasn’t all bad.

BTW, “liberal” and “libertarian” are not synonymous.

27 posted on 05/22/2007 9:51:11 AM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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The GOP has become the party of neoliberal corporate globalism

I agree precisely. Feed them some of their own Chinese dog food.

31 posted on 05/22/2007 9:52:41 AM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature, not nurture)
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And it is because of the neocon war machine in the Middle East that we are hated.

And with this line, the credibility of this piece whirlpools down the the bottom of the toilet and is whisked away...

APf

33 posted on 05/22/2007 9:54:55 AM PDT by APFel (Regnum Nostrum Crescit)
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