Posted on 05/21/2007 6:55:22 PM PDT by PghBaldy
MICHAEL CHERTOFF, HOMELAND SECURITY SECRETARY: You know, Wolf, first, I understand there's *** some people who expect anything other than capital punishment is an amnesty. *** The reality is the proposal here requires people who came in illegally who want to stay to pay a penalty. Like a fine. That's a punishment. That's not an amnesty.
They simply don’t care what we think.
NO! This is not a matter of trust, Bush WANTS the illegals to remain.
No, I support our commander in chief in his war against Islamic radicals.
You would be on the other side.
Our open society can turn immigrants more quickly than their closed societies can.
NO! This is not a matter of trust, Bush WANTS the illegals to remain.
What an ass.
“What would you do if 12 million illegal aliens were willing to fight for us in Iraq?”
Check their health, give them shots, run them through a quick basic training, put them on a plane to Iraq.
If after their 8 year tour of duty they are alive they can get in a shorter the line for citizenship.
Everyone else gets deported.
First off, there is no “radical Islam” distinct from “Islam” and second, he’s good friends with the major source of funding for the global Jihad against the West.
Oh, and the President is not the Commander-In-Chief of the country. Only the military.
“You would be on the other side.”
I’d be on the side that wants this country to survive. Frankly, I never thought I’d see a Republican President trying to destroy it, but that’s what we have here.
“Our open society can turn immigrants more quickly than their closed societies can.”
That explains all the Muslim terrorist cells constantly in the news originating from here.....
So if we seal our borders and leave them alone everything will be fine.
I know allowing more of them into our country to get closer to my family isn't the way.
I also know Duncan Hunter and other real conservatives aren't willing to make the same concessions to these religious fanatics as the liberal george bush is, which makes your defense of one and support of another quite a stark contadiction.
Confused?
Just wanted to call attention to your post. Michael Chertoff's career was launched by Giuliani and he was enthusiastically supported for his current position by Giuliani.
He would no doubt have a prominent position in any (God forbid) Giuliani administration.
No. We seal our border and kill them.
Fighting a war while leaving our borders open to our enemy, say nothing of inviting more in, is insanity.
Thanks for posting. Outstanding citizens/FReeper comments BUMP!
This country has survived and thrived despite illegal immigration.
Pretending there are no varieties of Islam is naieve. There are Muslim men who cross dress for beauty pageants in Indonesia. How can you explain that ?
This is the largest muslim country in the world.
Suggesting that President Bush does not want the country to survive is hyperbole. The immigration bill is more than the status quo.
Undermining President Bush will increase the chances of Democrats winning and will embolden foreign enemies.
It is completely legit to point this out and blame you and the other border bots for this problem.
No, I don’t want any illegals in the country period. As for student visas, fine, which is what you were talking about. Screened and vetted student visas.
I am as anti-illegal immgrant as they come. Hence, one reason I support Hunter.
But what I am not, is a GWB hater, despite a few serious flaws. He is the CIC. He needs America’s support to finish the mission in Iraq, Afghanistan, and soon Iran.
In this endeavor he has not stronger supporter than me OR Duncan Hunter.
You pass the sanity test in an immigration thread— well done.
I appreciate your clarifications.
I cannot imagine how we would ever achieve a world of zero illegal immigration.
Why do you want 100 million more Democrats?
“Pretending there are no varieties of Islam is naieve. There are Muslim men who cross dress for beauty pageants in Indonesia. How can you explain that ?”
They’re one religious revival from death. Have you read the Koran? Islam is not a “religion of peace” nor is it a source of “morality”.
“Undermining President Bush will increase the chances of Democrats winning and will embolden foreign enemies”
President BUSH is emboldening our foreign enemies. As to helping the Democrats win, Bush’s White House was quite chipper last November. They finally had a Congress in line with them.
“It is completely legit to point this out and blame you and the other border bots for this problem.”
Oh, that’s funny.
I cannot imagine how we would ever achieve a world of zero murder.
So, let’s just not try, shall we? Pathetic.
We may never achieve zero, but we can easily reduce it by 80% following current laws which now include: Building the Hunter border fence & Increasing the size of the BP. Couple that with severe penalties (which are on the books) for companies that hire them, more rapid deportations, and a serious effort to track SS fraud.
Seriously, we all keep being encouraged to, and do choose, the lessor of two evils, thinking that we can actually get good government by doing so.
Since the communists/socialists are also in total dissaray, why not break out of the RNC/DNC professional political party alliances and start voting for our own chosen elected representatives?
I will pledge to convince 50 current apolitical, current non-voters, to actually vote in the next election.
If anyone really worth a damn ever actually runs for office.
Otherwise, I might just join them, while awaiting the eventual revolution. So the RNC loses my 1 vote. It seems they don't want it, anyway. Another independant politician gains 51. Lather, rinse and repeat.
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