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45 million vote for updated seven world wonders
Yahoo News (AFP) ^ | May 21, 2007

Posted on 05/21/2007 9:05:57 AM PDT by E Rocc

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"If you appreciate someone else's culture it's a lot harder to go to war with them," she told AFP.

Considering that America's bloodiest wars have been against the British, ourselves, and a nation that has provided many of our immigrants (Germany), history does not support this view.

But the idea that culture is a "bottom up" concept makes sense...which is why the first true "popular culture" is sweeping the globe.

-Eric

1 posted on 05/21/2007 9:06:01 AM PDT by E Rocc
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the Hagia Sophia in Istanbul

Hmmm...now what did that used to be...any other wonders on the "conquered by islam and converted to a mosque list?"

2 posted on 05/21/2007 9:08:28 AM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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To: E Rocc

I vote for John Edwards house..........


3 posted on 05/21/2007 9:09:33 AM PDT by Red Badger (My gerund got caught in my diphthong, and now I have a dangling participle...............)
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To: E Rocc
In Lawrence Keeley's book War Before Civilization, he makes the unusual (because it runs counter to what a lot of people assume) yet plausible claim that the more two cultures interact with each other, the more likely they are to fight each other because they simply have more things to fight about.
4 posted on 05/21/2007 9:10:28 AM PDT by Question_Assumptions
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“If you appreciate someone else’s culture, it’s a lot harder to go to war with them.”

“The Germans always were the world’s best toy makers.” - Col. Martin Hessler: The Battle of the Bulge(1965)


5 posted on 05/21/2007 9:10:52 AM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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More than 45 million people have voted so far in an Internet campaign to choose the seven "new" wonders of the world out of 21 shortlisted historical buildings or monuments...

Are Pam Anderson's breasts up for consideration?

6 posted on 05/21/2007 9:11:30 AM PDT by ConservaTexan (February 6, 1911)
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To: E Rocc

Graceland baby.


7 posted on 05/21/2007 9:12:16 AM PDT by jbwbubba
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"If you appreciate someone else's culture it's a lot harder to go to war with them," she told AFP.

Obvious nonsense. The Brits fought the French very nearly continuously for six centuries, despite French culture being very influential in Britain throughout this period.

8 posted on 05/21/2007 9:12:26 AM PDT by Sherman Logan (I didn't claw my way to the top of the food chain to be a vegetarian.)
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"If you appreciate someone else's culture it's a lot harder to go to war with them," she told AFP.

Yes, it did make it harder to bomb Saddam's air force when he parked the airplanes next to historical sites he knew we wouldn't bomb, but we did destroy his aircraft anyway. This was one of the reasons the Air Force started bombing with cement bombs.

I hope the Statue of Liberty makes it to the list. That way the muslim terrorists will think twice about ever blowing it up.

9 posted on 05/21/2007 9:13:42 AM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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Eiffel tower in Paris

This is the only modern structure listed in the top ten. I think the The Chrysler Building in NY would be a far better choice.

10 posted on 05/21/2007 9:13:52 AM PDT by outofstyle (My Ride's Here)
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“If you appreciate someone else’s culture, it’s a lot harder to go to war with them.”

Unless, of course, they come to your shores and start it by slaughtering 3000 innocent businesspeople. That made me "understand" everything I need to know about their nonsensical, death-based "culture" and dismiss it in a heartbeat.

11 posted on 05/21/2007 9:14:29 AM PDT by 50sDad (Angels on asteroids are abducting crop circles!)
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My pick is the Dallas Cowboys new stadium. It’s not open yet but it’s going to be a fine facility.

GO COWBOYS!!!!!


12 posted on 05/21/2007 9:18:52 AM PDT by NCC-1701 (ELIMINATE ORGANIZED CRIME. ABOLISH THE I.R.S.)
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This is the only modern structure listed in the top ten. I think the The Chrysler Building in NY would be a far better choice.
Why Chrysler and not Empire State? I'm not disagreeing, though I would lean towards the latter.

-Eric

13 posted on 05/21/2007 9:19:41 AM PDT by E Rocc (Myspace "Freepers" group moderator)
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Hmmm...now what did that used to be...any other wonders on the "conquered by islam and converted to a mosque list?"
Actually, Hindu extremists try to claim that the Taj Mahal was originally a Hindu temple.

IIRC, Haga Sophia is now a museum that honors both of the cathedral/mosque's pasts.

-Eric

14 posted on 05/21/2007 9:22:09 AM PDT by E Rocc (Myspace "Freepers" group moderator)
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Why Chrysler and not Empire State?

The Chrysler is not as tall. But artistically I believe that is way outshines the Empire State. I am neither an artist, an architect nor an archaeologist. Therefore, my opinion is not particularly informed.

15 posted on 05/21/2007 9:27:08 AM PDT by outofstyle (My Ride's Here)
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To: E Rocc

I vote for the Stucky’s Nougat Log.


16 posted on 05/21/2007 9:33:21 AM PDT by Rutles4Ever (Ubi Petrus, ibi ecclesia, et ubi ecclesia vita eterna)
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To: outofstyle
Eiffel tower in Paris

This is the only modern structure listed in the top ten. I think the The Chrysler Building in NY would be a far better choice.

Oh, I agree. Plus the Golden Gate Bridge, the Brooklyn Bridge, the Panama Canal, the Suez Canel, the lighthouse on Bell Rock of the coast of northern Great Britain, and Hoover Dam. All magnificent pieces of engineering. All witness to the power of the human mind.

(sigh 'Course these were mostly done by a bunch of white guys...)

17 posted on 05/21/2007 9:33:21 AM PDT by yankeedame ("Oh, I can take it but I'd much rather dish it out.")
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They used to be, but she had 'em downsized in 1999.
18 posted on 05/21/2007 9:35:40 AM PDT by Xenalyte (You have to defile a mummy completely, or they come back to life. You know that.)
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To: outofstyle
I agree that Chrysler is more distinctive and unique, and the way its spire was secretly constructed and raised (there was a race with 40 Wall Street for the honor of World's Tallest) was unique.

Arguing for Empire is the speed at which it was built (just over 15 months) and the fact that its height was not surpassed for over forty years.

A case can be made for making Manhattan Island itself the wonder. Between its completion in 1930 and the mid 1950s, the tallest building in the world outside NYC was Terminal Tower in Cleveland, which is less than 60% the height of Empire. Manhattan contained numerous higher buildings during that time.

-Eric

19 posted on 05/21/2007 9:36:01 AM PDT by E Rocc (Myspace "Freepers" group moderator)
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20 posted on 05/21/2007 9:36:22 AM PDT by dfwgator (The University of Florida - Still Championship U)
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